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2020/05/18 11:25:51
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Grimtuff wrote:BrianDavion wrote:John D Law wrote:I said it already in the Pariah thread. It’s Necrons vs Astra Militarum( most likely Catachans) Silent King will be separate box set on special command barge (think Vect) big box set will have new Necron “pariah” like Unit.
And I seem to recall asking for your source on that. if it is necrons vs guard it strikes me as.... unlikely it'll be a 9th edition box launch. we've never seen a starter set sans marines
And this kids is why we had(still have? Doesn't look like it's been updated in a while.) the Dakka rumour tracker. Want to make a bold claim like the above? Then put your money where your mouth is and you can see how accurate you truly are and if you can be trusted in the future.
That's not been updated since 2018
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2020/05/18 11:40:20
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Dysartes wrote:I'm not sure on their relative sizes in Epic, but you could probably multi-kit the Cauldron of Blood, Death Dealer, Blood Reaper and Tower of Skulls as Daemon Engines - probably as two kits? - and then bring back the Cannon of Khorne and Doom Blaster as artillery choices when World Eaters eventually get a book? Even though the WE are Berserker Central, they're going to need some HS choices, so why not bring back these older concepts with a modern kit design?
I think that's a great idea. Plus it'd give us Daemon Engines that are more Daemon Engine and less Daemon Engine, if you get my meaning. I mean, I think the Forge Fiend looks cool, but I prefer my Daemon Engines to look like machines that have been warped by the possession of a Daemon, not a metallic daemonic creature. Of course, and going almost completely against what I just said, I am kinda hoping that a full World Eater Codex would see this thing enter the 41st Millennium, just like Thousand Sons gave us its be-tentacled counterpart.
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2020/05/18 11:58:29
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'd have no issues with the WE getting a big slaughter-y gribbly added to the mix.
Do you think they'd go so far as to add any of the Mortal units from the Blades of Knorne faction from AOS as a 'roided-up Cultist unit? Similar idea to the Tzaangors.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/05/18 12:43:54
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2020/05/18 13:25:11
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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zamerion wrote:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/18/psychic-awakening-gone-dark/
astra vs necrons? :O
Don't read too much into these short stories. They are fiction setting up a book (in this case, "Pariah" which was slated to be the book after "War of the Spider") that is yet to come. We had Astra Militarum feature in something like 5 or 6 stories at this point, with a good chunk of it long before they ever got the book they featured in("The Greater Good").
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2020/05/18 13:28:43
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I know, but it was curious that this story just came out after the rumor
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2020/05/18 13:51:57
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Amazing how good they make flayed ones sound in the short stories!
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2020/05/18 14:14:45
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dysartes wrote:
Well, from that lot we've got the Lord of Skulls via GW, and the Brass Scorpion through FW (as far as I know it is still in production).
Knorne Daemons also have the Skull Cannon via GW, which you could make an argument for replicating the Cannon of Khorne, though for my money it seems a touch anaemic in that regard.
I'm not sure on their relative sizes in Epic, but you could probably multi-kit the Cauldron of Blood, Death Dealer, Blood Reaper and Tower of Skulls as Daemon Engines - probably as two kits? - and then bring back the Cannon of Khorne and Doom Blaster as artillery choices when World Eaters eventually get a book? Even though the WE are Berserker Central, they're going to need some HS choices, so why not bring back these older concepts with a modern kit design?
Can we also bring back bolter armed 'Zerkers? They existed in 2nd, 3rd, and 3.5 at least.
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2020/05/18 14:19:00
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Hmm...a retconning of Flayed Ones perhaps? No more Flayer Virus, they're now basically a freshly converted Necron?
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2020/05/18 14:29:43
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Stormonu wrote:Hmm...a retconning of Flayed Ones perhaps? No more Flayer Virus, they're now basically a freshly converted Necron?
The Flayed One was mimicking the person whose skin it was wearing. It wasn't a 'converted' human or anything.
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2020/05/18 14:32:32
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Starfarer wrote:Everyone here is way overestimating what we're going to see next weekend.
We're going to see full reveals for all the Psychic Awakening books and accompanying models they've already teased and probably give a release schedule for all of them. It would make zero sense for them to show off a new edition when they have 3 announced but unreleased supplements for the current edition.
Of course I'm sure that won't stop people from calling it a let down or disappointment when this doesn't turn out to be a new edition.
This is probably the most logical comment in this thread. GW wouldn't announce a new edition while they are still trying to sell campaign book for this edition. It would be bad marketing to announce that upcoming releases are about to be obsolete.
Argive wrote:
Necron Finecast update multi kits (deathmarks & flayed ones combo kit ?)
Deathmarks are already in a dual kit with Immortals, and that's a solid kit. I could see them redoing the Warrior sprue in a dual kit with Flayed Ones, though.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2020/05/18 15:01:38
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Regardless of whether we get 8.5 or 9.0 or not, this is the right time to change the starter. Dark Imperium has now been selling for 3 years and has probably saturated the miniature market so much that it is probably not selling enough for GW anymore.
So I predict we'll be getting a new starter(not necessarily an edition change) and the old starter will form the start collecting boxes for standard Primaris Marines(and most likely will replace the old marine SC) and Death Guard. Basically the same thing they did in Age of Sigmar moving to Soul Wars.
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2020/05/18 15:23:59
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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To be fair they did switch to 8th months after pushing the 7.5 chaos space marine Dex
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Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. -Kurt Vonnegut |
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2020/05/18 15:28:43
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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macluvin wrote:To be fair they did switch to 8th months after pushing the 7.5 chaos space marine Dex
Yeah, that one still burns.
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2020/05/18 15:33:36
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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I would laugh so god damn hard if the new edition dropped and invalidated the 9,234 space marine supplements we got a few months ago and all the PA books. That would be the most GW move ever.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2020/05/18 15:39:44
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Fixture of Dakka
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Platuan4th wrote: Dysartes wrote:
Well, from that lot we've got the Lord of Skulls via GW, and the Brass Scorpion through FW (as far as I know it is still in production).
Knorne Daemons also have the Skull Cannon via GW, which you could make an argument for replicating the Cannon of Khorne, though for my money it seems a touch anaemic in that regard.
I'm not sure on their relative sizes in Epic, but you could probably multi-kit the Cauldron of Blood, Death Dealer, Blood Reaper and Tower of Skulls as Daemon Engines - probably as two kits? - and then bring back the Cannon of Khorne and Doom Blaster as artillery choices when World Eaters eventually get a book? Even though the WE are Berserker Central, they're going to need some HS choices, so why not bring back these older concepts with a modern kit design?
Can we also bring back bolter armed 'Zerkers? They existed in 2nd, 3rd, and 3.5 at least.
I'm 50/50 on 'Zerkers with bolters - maybe as a WE unit distinct from the Khorne Berzerker unit itself? I think I'd need to hear a solid unit concept for them, rather than just mixing bolters into a CC unit.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/05/18 15:40:17
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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the_scotsman wrote:
I would laugh so god damn hard if the new edition dropped and invalidated the 9,234 space marine supplements we got a few months ago and all the PA books. That would be the most GW move ever.
It won't. If we get a new edition it'll be like going from 6th to 7th. They won't invalidate loyalist rules that quick. They save that kind of thing for npc factions.
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2020/05/18 15:42:24
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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the_scotsman wrote:
I would laugh so god damn hard if the new edition dropped and invalidated the 9,234 space marine supplements we got a few months ago and all the PA books. That would be the most GW move ever.
Well if there is a big necron release for 9th, either a new codex comes with them and invalidates PA: Pariah out the gates or Necrons aren't going to be getting a new codex which isn't something people seem to be considering.
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2020/05/18 15:46:22
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Been Around the Block
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EnTyme wrote:Starfarer wrote:Everyone here is way overestimating what we're going to see next weekend.
We're going to see full reveals for all the Psychic Awakening books and accompanying models they've already teased and probably give a release schedule for all of them. It would make zero sense for them to show off a new edition when they have 3 announced but unreleased supplements for the current edition.
Of course I'm sure that won't stop people from calling it a let down or disappointment when this doesn't turn out to be a new edition.
This is probably the most logical comment in this thread. GW wouldn't announce a new edition while they are still trying to sell campaign book for this edition. It would be bad marketing to announce that upcoming releases are about to be obsolete.
Think most people meen 8.5 rules and another starter box set when they say new ed, not another rework of the entire game.
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Deathwatch +3000p
Farsight +2000p
Kraken +2000p
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2020/05/18 15:51:09
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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macluvin wrote:To be fair they did switch to 8th months after pushing the 7.5 chaos space marine Dex
Didn't they offer vouchers for anyone who bought a codex or 7E rulebook after a certain point when 8E was announced? I seem to remember that.
Not that it matter much as any new edition this year this will be more like 4th>5th or 5th>6th, and won't require a reprint of everything.
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2020/05/18 16:03:57
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Second Story Man
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I think we will see a Necron VS anything but Marines as last PA Box Set and 9th Starter Set will be coming later with new Primaris
Dudeface wrote:
Epic - isn't an existing supported game and you can't buy the models
Apocalypse - not everyone has a table bigger than 6x4 or 4k armies to run it with
Regards necromunda or kill team - good games but sometimes you do want to use more minis as the fluff doesn't only exist at squad level
Horus heresy is prohibitively expensive to start from scratch for most people with a FW army
I don't attend tournaments, I have regular opponents who aren't a-holes, we have reasonably equal understanding of rules, we amicably resolve and queries or issues that come up. Be a human, you shouldn't need a TO to monitor and admin every game you play just by applying basic human interaction
You can buy models for Epic and no support is not a big problem
Apocalype works better for 2k armies than 40k does
HH is expensive, but it is more of a collection hobby and if you just want to play with the rules, a lot of groups are fine if you use the 40k stuff
Overread wrote:
Honestly it just sounds like you don't like 40K at all. Neither as a casual game nor a as competitive game, so I don't get why you feel you need to shoe-horn it into being competitive only. Clear rules don't require a TO, in fact most TO packages only make minor modifications to the rules if any; everything else is still the core game rules that you agree to play with your opponent as normal.
If you don't like the rules and feel that the HH models are better and feel that other games do everything better why are you worried about the newest news for 40K? It just sounds like you're tormenting yourself with a game you've moved on from.
no, I don't like the current situation of 40k at all, as it is the same mess as we had in 7th and GW promised to have understood the problem and is trying to solve it.
the worse the rules are and the more often they are updated, the worse is it for casual pick up games
and going full house rules with a fixed group, the main advantage that 40k has over every other game ( GW or not GW) is gone as this are easy to find pick up games and tournaments
why I am worried about is the simple thing that I have a lot of stuff and liked playing the game, and I had hopes that it will get better after 7th but it looks like GW learned nothing from it but I still hope that the new Edition might change things aqgain
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2020/05/18 16:06:17
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Dudeface wrote:the_scotsman wrote:
I would laugh so god damn hard if the new edition dropped and invalidated the 9,234 space marine supplements we got a few months ago and all the PA books. That would be the most GW move ever.
Well if there is a big necron release for 9th, either a new codex comes with them and invalidates PA: Pariah out the gates or Necrons aren't going to be getting a new codex which isn't something people seem to be considering.
Or Pariah basically is a new Necrons codex. Do we have any factions confirmed for Pariah besides Necrons and three characters? If not that would leave a lot of pages for Necrons.
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2020/05/18 16:09:16
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Stormonu wrote:Hmm...a retconning of Flayed Ones perhaps? No more Flayer Virus, they're now basically a freshly converted Necron?
Looks like retconning a retcon. Old flayed ones were sneaky sneaks who wore their victims skin and mimicked their prey to ambush their enemy. Then 5th edition made them khorne berzerkers.
Maybe the Silent King returning will be used to hand wave the dumb stuff away like the flayer and destroyer cult stuff.
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2020/05/18 16:17:13
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Gaen wrote: EnTyme wrote:Starfarer wrote:Everyone here is way overestimating what we're going to see next weekend.
We're going to see full reveals for all the Psychic Awakening books and accompanying models they've already teased and probably give a release schedule for all of them. It would make zero sense for them to show off a new edition when they have 3 announced but unreleased supplements for the current edition.
Of course I'm sure that won't stop people from calling it a let down or disappointment when this doesn't turn out to be a new edition.
This is probably the most logical comment in this thread. GW wouldn't announce a new edition while they are still trying to sell campaign book for this edition. It would be bad marketing to announce that upcoming releases are about to be obsolete.
Think most people meen 8.5 rules and another starter box set when they say new ed, not another rework of the entire game.
All customers would see is "new edition". It doesn't matter how little would changes. Sales for the campaign books would take a big hit.
*edit* fixed the formatting of my post
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2020/05/18 16:32:11
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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That's assuming that they would be obsolete. Mont'ka, Kau'yon, the book with 1k Sons and Space Wolves, etc last edition of 40k all released alongside New Codices...and they made it clear that if you bought the campaign books and had the previous Codex? You're getting the same content.
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2020/05/18 16:32:18
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Gadzilla666 wrote:Dudeface wrote:the_scotsman wrote:
I would laugh so god damn hard if the new edition dropped and invalidated the 9,234 space marine supplements we got a few months ago and all the PA books. That would be the most GW move ever.
Well if there is a big necron release for 9th, either a new codex comes with them and invalidates PA: Pariah out the gates or Necrons aren't going to be getting a new codex which isn't something people seem to be considering.
Or Pariah basically is a new Necrons codex. Do we have any factions confirmed for Pariah besides Necrons and three characters? If not that would leave a lot of pages for Necrons.
That means no new units unless a box set is released simultaneously which means it likely wouldn't be for 9th. It's becoming more of a mystery to me what they've got up their sleeves tbh.
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2020/05/18 16:37:45
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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June or July is when new editions have traditionally dropped. "Soul War", for example, dropped with fairly light warning but was announced at Adepticon or so. "Pariah" would have been out in June or end of May if COVID19 hadn't happened. We would have had "War of the Spider" in April/early May, as they finished the initial articles for "Engine War" the last week of March(which is when they announced their shutdowns). Mostly everything we have gotten since for "Engine War" has been filler.
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2020/05/18 17:00:53
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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If they released something like Corvus Belli's Army 6 app and moved toward digital for 9th then arguably they wouldn't obsolete the last series of books. The books would still have fluff and still have hard copies of the rules you could choose to carry around. They could have their cake and eat it too and probably have very little outrage.
I would love for the correct and proper way to build a list not be contained in FAQs, errata and update books. I would like an app that just doesn't allow you to do what you can't do.
Also given Covid and the lessons there in, moving to digital would allow them to sell stuff without needing a store front.
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2020/05/18 17:25:24
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Why do you need an app to tell you what you can't do? Additionally, Army is a joke. It's a cluttered mess and has been an issue whenever new Sectorials and the like are dropped.
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2020/05/18 17:35:53
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Kanluwen wrote:Why do you need an app to tell you what you can't do? Additionally, Army is a joke. It's a cluttered mess and has been an issue whenever new Sectorials and the like are dropped.
Lol if army 6 is a mess than I can't imagine what 8th edition is considering if Battlescribe didn't update I wouldn't even have a clue how to build an army anymore.
But in the real world army 6 isn't a cluttered mess and is a much better alternative to needing to find veteran players to walk you through what books you need (because you need more than the core rule book and the codex now), what FAQs you have to download and carry and what 3rd party tournament rules your meta also is using.
Army 6 has everything you need to play and links to the rules or where to find the rules. Updates for free, doesn't cost anything to buy and keeps everyone everywhere on the same page. So what if with all of that maybe (mayyyybe) a week where a new sectorial is a little wonky.
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