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BrianDavion wrote:
yeah and we start getting things like names, what they are etc.

I'm guessing that the things that look like Primaris Marines riding bikes will actually be Primaris Marines riding bikes.

No, those are the new necron models. They're stealthy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah and we start getting things like names, what they are etc.

I'm guessing that the things that look like Primaris Marines riding bikes will actually be Primaris Marines riding bikes.

what if they're squats cleverly posing as Marines?

but yeah I don't expect much suprises for the space marines, the necron stuff though might be intreasting. also there are some characters I'm curious about, like the "chaplain" and what looks like it could be another ancient. ifit turns out is it indeed an ancient it'll make buying last copies of DI less urgent to some people I suspect

We all know the best part will be the names of these new units. GW is excellent at naming their units.

BrianDavion wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah and we start getting things like names, what they are etc.

I'm guessing that the things that look like Primaris Marines riding bikes will actually be Primaris Marines riding bikes.

what if they're squats cleverly posing as Marines?

Jigglypuff, as seen from above.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Graphite wrote:
Huh. After the trailer I was hoping for some SoBs in the box, which would have made it a definite buy. Without... not so sure.

I guess three factions (4 with a single Cadian girl ;0 ) would be a bit much plus we have had alot of Sisters models recently and getting new one shortly but yeah their prominance in the vid and general advertising was a pleasent suprise and might have people asking - so where can I get Sisters models - hopefully!

You know how they did a special version of Dark Vengeance with the extra chaplain? I’m now really hoping they do a version of the box set with an extra model of poor Cadian lass.

They could then start using her like that poor Forgeworld fella who’s always running away from horrendous monsters!

BrianDavion wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah and we start getting things like names, what they are etc.

I'm guessing that the things that look like Primaris Marines riding bikes will actually be Primaris Marines riding bikes.

what if they're squats cleverly posing as Marines?

but yeah I don't expect much suprises for the space marines, the necron stuff though might be intreasting. also there are some characters I'm curious about, like the "chaplain" and what looks like it could be another ancient. ifit turns out is it indeed an ancient it'll make buying last copies of DI less urgent to some people I suspect

What if they're squigs?

What's worse for me than *just* another price rise is the loss of some discounts during the GW closure PLUS the rise. I make a lot more money, too, but it feels different buying more expensive stuff. If everything Sisters and AdMech was 5-10€ cheaper I'd have small allied forces if both*. Now the only things I bought this quarter are a box of Gretchin and the Flashgitz KT.

The new starter is super attractive to me, though, I'm a sucker for starter sets. This time I might give away the Necrons as an early Christmas gift, but bigger/newer Marine bikes is something I was thirsty for even as a little kid getting into Warhammer. The current bikes were new-ish back then, but they were a far cry from the artwork on the second GW advertisement magazine thingy I had.

*unbuilt, like most of the stuff I got before Corona hit and made most people in medicine work insane hours. Or even more insane ones, at least

 Jadenim wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Graphite wrote:
Huh. After the trailer I was hoping for some SoBs in the box, which would have made it a definite buy. Without... not so sure.

I guess three factions (4 with a single Cadian girl ;0 ) would be a bit much plus we have had alot of Sisters models recently and getting new one shortly but yeah their prominance in the vid and general advertising was a pleasent suprise and might have people asking - so where can I get Sisters models - hopefully!

You know how they did a special version of Dark Vengeance with the extra chaplain? I’m now really hoping they do a version of the box set with an extra model of poor Cadian lass.

They could then start using her like that poor Forgeworld fella who’s always running away from horrendous monsters!

There was the box set with Ultramarines pilot you had to rescue as well

I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

Voss wrote:

RedNoak wrote:

I also like that there is still an incentive to block a flyers path

You can't block the path. You can limit where it can stop (it can't land on top of models), but it ignores everything it passes over.

and i guess... flyers cant be attacked in CC anymore? that would make alot of sense actually

They can be attacked in CC (subject to various limitations on what model types and traits allow attacking flyers- we know other flyers can). The main thing is anyone _can_ ignore their Engagement Range when moving.

well that is literally what i meant^^ you can still position your models in a way to force the aircraft not to do something. in 8th it would be simply destroyed, in 9th they forgo a shooting phase. good mechanic in my book.

as far as arcraft and CC goes... you're speculating as much as i do. but since models can stop in engagment range, without beeing actually engaged, its a hint that aircraft maybe not able to be charged. The only hard evidence we get is that they arent able to charge, but that maybe a rule to stop aircraft that can also hover, from attacking when coming from reserve. there was something like that in previous editions... (hive tyrants not beeing able to charge when going from gliding to swooping)

Just realised I have about $140 in store credit at one of the two places I regularly buy stuff. Add that to the 20% discount and I think I just sorted the new starter out for a fraction of the price. Fingers crossed it contains boards like the KT and Warcry starters.

BrianDavion wrote:
but yeah I don't expect much suprises for the space marines, the necron stuff though might be intreasting. also there are some characters I'm curious about, like the "chaplain" and what looks like it could be another ancient. ifit turns out is it indeed an ancient it'll make buying last copies of DI less urgent to some people I suspect

I want it to put to bed the idea that we're getting new Immortals. And I want to know what that tall spindly thing is.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
We all know the best part will be the names of these new units. GW is excellent at naming their units.

Have we not yet reached peak Adjective Nounverb yet?

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

She might feature as a partly desintegrated guardswoman dying, face down in the mud on the base of the Silent King.
I thought that was kind of the dark humourus implication of the regimental Standard article.

RedNoak wrote:

Voss wrote:

RedNoak wrote:

I also like that there is still an incentive to block a flyers path

You can't block the path. You can limit where it can stop (it can't land on top of models), but it ignores everything it passes over.

and i guess... flyers cant be attacked in CC anymore? that would make alot of sense actually

They can be attacked in CC (subject to various limitations on what model types and traits allow attacking flyers- we know other flyers can). The main thing is anyone _can_ ignore their Engagement Range when moving.

well that is literally what i meant^^ you can still position your models in a way to force the aircraft not to do something. in 8th it would be simply destroyed, in 9th they forgo a shooting phase. good mechanic in my book.

as far as arcraft and CC goes... you're speculating as much as i do. but since models can stop in engagment range, without beeing actually engaged, its a hint that aircraft maybe not able to be charged. The only hard evidence we get is that they arent able to charge, but that maybe a rule to stop aircraft that can also hover, from attacking when coming from reserve. there was something like that in previous editions... (hive tyrants not beeing able to charge when going from gliding to swooping)

Heroic Intervention in the preview specifically calls out that it DOESN'T ignore the aircraft if the unit HI-ing can fly. 99% You can still charge aircraft with fly units.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

No, just no. What the guard needs is new infantry models and i am sick and tired of us only getting special edition commanders (comissar lady, both catachans, marbo...) we have enough commanders already.

Kaneda88 wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

No, just no. What the guard needs is new infantry models and i am sick and tired of us only getting special edition commanders (comissar lady, both catachans, marbo...) we have enough commanders already.

be carefull what you wish for, you might get 7 lasguns and monopose for 10£ more / 10 dudes and HWT's with less options but a new great heavy weapon that is only 1/3 teams for an additional 10£ / 3 hwts.

yukishiro1 wrote:
I'd like to point out I don't know why you're so annoyed that someone noted that the new Sisters plastic sets are even more expensive than GW's other plastic kits.

But if you really want to get into this for some inexplicable reason...unpainted metal minis are exactly the same whether they're in the blister or not. Plastic kits are not. And you cannot find second-hand versions of the new sisters kits anyway, because they just came out.

This is just such a truly weird thing to get a bee in your bonnet about.

Well second hand just check plastic is it assembled well or not. If yes then no difference to metal

Kaneda88 wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

No, just no. What the guard needs is new infantry models and i am sick and tired of us only getting special edition commanders (comissar lady, both catachans, marbo...) we have enough commanders already.

Meme argument. Games workshop has the means to do both. If we can (and will) get 20 more marine variants they can pump out a new special character without slowing down the production of other lines.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Kaneda88 wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

No, just no. What the guard needs is new infantry models and i am sick and tired of us only getting special edition commanders (comissar lady, both catachans, marbo...) we have enough commanders already.

be carefull what you wish for, you might get 7 lasguns and monopose for 10£ more / 10 dudes and HWT's with less options but a new great heavy weapon that is only 1/3 teams for an additional 10£ / 3 hwts.

As opposed to currently when we have a 10 man box with only two of our special weapons (the worst ones) and a 5 man box for the same price with one of each of the other special weapons?


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 BlaxicanX wrote:

Kaneda88 wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

No, just no. What the guard needs is new infantry models and i am sick and tired of us only getting special edition commanders (comissar lady, both catachans, marbo...) we have enough commanders already.

Meme argument. Games workshop has the means to do both. If we can (and will) get 20 more marine variants they can pump out a new special character without slowing down the production of other lines.

It has the means to do both, doesn’t mean they will do it for a faction other then marines

Kaneda88 wrote:
As opposed to currently when we have a 10 man box with only two of our special weapons (the worst ones) and a 5 man box for the same price with one of each of the other special weapons?

Like he said, be careful what you wish for. The last thing you want is a box of wonderfully dynamic-posed Cadians that look amazing... until there's 10 of each dynamically posted mini, 'cause GW went and make 'em all mono-pose. Then it starts to look weird, no matter how good the individual new sculpts might be.

Kaneda88 wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I would be kind of disappointed if the Cadian girl didn't end up getting at least a model, considering that not only did she feature in the cinematic but in the Guard Standard or whatever it's called, as well.

A model, and maybe some rules as a tricked out Platoon Commander or Veteran Sergeant would be really cool.

No, just no. What the guard needs is new infantry models and i am sick and tired of us only getting special edition commanders (comissar lady, both catachans, marbo...) we have enough commanders already.

Sure you don’t need some lieutenants?

 Jadenim wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Graphite wrote:
Huh. After the trailer I was hoping for some SoBs in the box, which would have made it a definite buy. Without... not so sure.

I guess three factions (4 with a single Cadian girl ;0 ) would be a bit much plus we have had alot of Sisters models recently and getting new one shortly but yeah their prominance in the vid and general advertising was a pleasent suprise and might have people asking - so where can I get Sisters models - hopefully!

You know how they did a special version of Dark Vengeance with the extra chaplain? I’m now really hoping they do a version of the box set with an extra model of poor Cadian lass.

They could then start using her like that poor Forgeworld fella who’s always running away from horrendous monsters!

That's Johann, and he's not from Forge World. He's included in the Giant kit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kaneda88 wrote:
As opposed to currently when we have a 10 man box with only two of our special weapons (the worst ones) and a 5 man box for the same price with one of each of the other special weapons?

Like he said, be careful what you wish for. The last thing you want is a box of wonderfully dynamic-posed Cadians that look amazing... until there's 10 of each dynamically posted mini, 'cause GW went and make 'em all mono-pose. Then it starts to look weird, no matter how good the individual new sculpts might be.

Also pricehike, i played around with GSC , spitballing ideas for an infantry and ad hoc army mostly footsloggers, the pricing for the GSC squads pretty much priced me out
If there ever is a new guadsquad then expect it to be in that price lot and that lot hurts.

TBF though that's because GSC is a horde army , which will always be more expensive to build.

I'm really intrigued by the idea of boards in the box. Maybe they drop the full book from the starter, just include core rules or a version of it, and chuck the boards in. Boards plus minis plus full rules I can see ending up as a dark uprising style price.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
TBF though that's because GSC is a horde army , which will always be more expensive to build.

I'm really intrigued by the idea of boards in the box. Maybe they drop the full book from the starter, just include core rules or a version of it, and chuck the boards in. Boards plus minis plus full rules I can see ending up as a dark uprising style price.

Maybe a few sheets of cardboard terrain that could be folded and slotted together too? It would be odd to just have completely empty boards.

Aiight kids, the stream is live.

5m to go.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
TBF though that's because GSC is a horde army , which will always be more expensive to build.

He also reference how the Hybrid kits just got a price rise.

A bunch of new space marine models revealed at the end of the stream.

For those thinking a new SM codex was not coming, look to be wrong. No way they are not going to release a dex now.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-beyond-the-boxgw-homepage-post-2/

Dune buggies!

 Sasori wrote:
A bunch of new space marine models revealed at the end of the stream.

For those thinking a new SM codex was not coming, look to be wrong. No way they are not going to release a dex now.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-beyond-the-boxgw-homepage-post-2/

They showed off some Necron stuff too.

And I remain unconvinced. "Reinforcements Incoming" doesn't really give us any sort of timeline on when to expect things. GW has shown they can be all over the map when it comes to releases, ranging from right after making an announcement, to months later.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
A bunch of new space marine models revealed at the end of the stream.

For those thinking a new SM codex was not coming, look to be wrong. No way they are not going to release a dex now.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-beyond-the-boxgw-homepage-post-2/

They showed off some Necron stuff too.

And I remain unconvinced. "Reinforcements Incoming" doesn't really give us any sort of timeline on when to expect things. GW has shown they can be all over the map when it comes to releases, ranging from right after making an announcement, to months later.

I never said at release, but I think it's pretty clear that both ranges are going to come shortly after 9th with a codex and new range options.

You can remain unconvinced, but both these are going to be released before the end of the year.

And the others.



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