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2020/06/22 22:35:19
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
punisher357 wrote: Also in that article, they mentioned that illuminor szeras has an ability to boost warriors
Wow, new szeras gets an ability which the old one already has,
So you know for a fact that it's the same ability? Didn't think so.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The community website has a pic of Pariah's table of contents up.
I didn't really follow the other Psychic Awakening book reveals. Should we be concerned that the only thing Necron in the table of contents is Illuminor Szeras?
Necrons arent getting anything aside from Szeras
Other than a Theatre of War based on a Necron Tomb World.
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2020/06/22 23:20:51
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I can only imagine what would happen if necron rules came out in the last PA. and then a few weeks later the necron codex with changed costs and rules came out. I am sure necron players would be super happy.
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2020/06/23 07:00:58
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
So I was looking at past articles on the upcoming necron models. The lokhust destroyer has a "gauss destructor" or an enmitic annihilator. I can't believe I missed that before.
So no more heavy gauss cannon, I guess.
I wonder what other weapon names will be changing.
2020/06/23 07:37:14
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: wow. Necrons got fethed. No build your own dynasty rules or nothing. What a bunch of bs.
Err - pretty sure they're getting a codex?
It's a pretty big assumption to make that the rules Necrons would have gotten in PA are going into the codex, especially when they've already said that everyone else gets to keep their PA books.
I'm not saying it won't happen but... the odds are poor.
2020/06/23 07:50:45
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: wow. Necrons got fethed. No build your own dynasty rules or nothing. What a bunch of bs.
Err - pretty sure they're getting a codex?
It's a pretty big assumption to make that the rules Necrons would have gotten in PA are going into the codex, especially when they've already said that everyone else gets to keep their PA books.
I'm not saying it won't happen but... the odds are poor.
Likewise they'd be pissed they had to buy a campaign book for 6 pages of rules that were intentionally left out of their codex. GW can't win but they did the best thing for people in the long run, even if it means necrons don't have a name generator (the thing people clearly wanted).
2020/06/23 12:30:20
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: wow. Necrons got fethed. No build your own dynasty rules or nothing. What a bunch of bs.
Err - pretty sure they're getting a codex?
So is everyone else. Did you really think they haven't been testing/writing 9th ed since PA started? Everyones been getting their build your own _____ rules since PA started and SM codex 2.0 came out. But necrons don't get their rules until their codex drops?
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2020/06/23 12:33:46
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
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2020/06/23 15:04:54
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: wow. Necrons got fethed. No build your own dynasty rules or nothing. What a bunch of bs.
Err - pretty sure they're getting a codex?
So is everyone else. Did you really think they haven't been testing/writing 9th ed since PA started? Everyones been getting their build your own _____ rules since PA started and SM codex 2.0 came out. But necrons don't get their rules until their codex drops?
Well, yeah, they are getting their codex right after PA. All it means is that Necron players don't have to waste money on PA and just have to wait for the codex to come out.
Let me put it this way, if there were necron rules in PA, and you know that the necron codex is coming out soon after, would you still spend money on PA?
I wouldn't. So Necrons not getting extensive rules in PA is a non-issue for me.
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2020/06/23 17:01:51
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: wow. Necrons got fethed. No build your own dynasty rules or nothing. What a bunch of bs.
Err - pretty sure they're getting a codex?
So is everyone else. Did you really think they haven't been testing/writing 9th ed since PA started? Everyones been getting their build your own _____ rules since PA started and SM codex 2.0 came out. But necrons don't get their rules until their codex drops?
Interesting, where are my build your own chaos warband, diy daemon legions or home brew orders for sisters?
2020/06/23 17:42:29
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Bosskelot wrote: Necrons are looking like the first army to be getting their 9th ed Codex so waiting an extra 3 or so weeks isn't exactly a big deal.
where is this time frame coming from?
Probably just deductive reasoning. There was a definite pattern with 8E's timeframes and they were trying to get books out ASAP there.
8th edition came out with the Indices in June 2017. Codex: Space Marines was the first release in July 2017.
If you want a full release schedule?
August 2017 was CSM and Grey Knights
September 2017 was Death Guard and AdMech
October was Guard and Craftworlds
November was Tyranids
December was Blood and Dark Angels
January 2018 was Daemons and Custodes
February was Thousand Sons
March was Tau Empire, Necrons, and Drukhari
April, from the list I'm seeing, had no Codex release.
May was Deathwatch and Harlequins
June was Imperial Knights
July had no Codex release.
August had Space Wolves
September had Gellerpox Infected and Elucidian Starstriders via Kill Team's "Rogue Trader". This is a kinda/sorta counts.
October was Orks
November had no Codex release.
December was a dead month for "NEW!" items, as usual.
January 2019 had no Codex release.
February had Genestealer Cults
March had Vanguard Space Marines and Chaos Marines Daemonkin minibooks via Shadowspear. Again, a kinda/sorta counts. Also the 2E of Chaos Marines alongside of Vigilus Ablaze seems to have been here.
April, May, June were relatively...not there again it seems.
July marked Chaos Knights.
August was C: Space Marines and the supplements ran for 3 months after that.
September, October were dead months for Codex releases aside from the Marine supplements and Psychic Awakening starting up.
November was the Sisters of Battle codex via the big box--the full thing didn't come for awhile yet(january or february 2020 I think it was?)
I would not be shocked if that were the case, Therion.
We are probably looking at preorders for 9E opening up on 7/4 or 7/11, going for two weeks(meaning either 7/18 or 7/25 for a release) and then the 'Expanded' stuff the following week or a breather for Sons of Behemat to drop before August starts with Necrons and Marines.
2020/06/23 19:19:45
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Therion wrote: I’m pretty close to 100% sure both SM and Necrons get codexes in August.
I'll be shocked if there is no Necron Codex in August. I'll be equally shocked if there is a Space Marine Codex anytime this year, since that would mean that last August's Codex Space Marines lasted less than 18 months. GW loves Space Marines, but I don't see them antagonizing their customers like that.
Given the way PA went and offhand comments from GW, I'll be surprised if the next three codex aren't Necrons, Deathwatch, and Harlequins.
2020/06/23 21:10:05
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Therion wrote: I’m pretty close to 100% sure both SM and Necrons get codexes in August.
I'll be shocked if there is no Necron Codex in August. I'll be equally shocked if there is a Space Marine Codex anytime this year, since that would mean that last August's Codex Space Marines lasted less than 18 months. GW loves Space Marines, but I don't see them antagonizing their customers like that.
Given the way PA went and offhand comments from GW, I'll be surprised if the next three codex aren't Necrons, Deathwatch, and Harlequins.
You should prepare to get shocked then, because I got it on pretty damn good authority (and know some stuff from the new codex: sm already) that it’s the first or second one out the door. In August.
Don’t ask me if supplements will be invalidated also, I don’t have that answer yet. But what I do know is that BA and SW etc. will be supplements in the future, so the upcoming dex will be some kind of ultimate Marine book.
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2020/06/24 01:51:09
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
If there is no Codex for a while (1-2 months) after Indominus box being released, there better be an updated Resurrection Protocol rule released in the Box set. There are units in that Box set that have rules that do not work under the current Necron Codex version.
2020/06/24 02:09:42
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: wow. Necrons got fethed. No build your own dynasty rules or nothing. What a bunch of bs.
Err - pretty sure they're getting a codex?
So is everyone else. Did you really think they haven't been testing/writing 9th ed since PA started? Everyones been getting their build your own _____ rules since PA started and SM codex 2.0 came out. But necrons don't get their rules until their codex drops?
Well, the release timeline is all out of whack. This book should have come earlier. No sense in putting in there anyway with a proper codex around the corner. Here's hoping they didn't phone it in like last time.
2020/06/24 02:19:42
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
You'd think with a name of "Pariah" one might see an anti-Psyker Stratagem or Relic, at least, if not units or buildings of models they haven't made yet.
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2020/06/24 08:14:59
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Charistoph wrote: You'd think with a name of "Pariah" one might see an anti-Psyker Stratagem or Relic, at least, if not units or buildings of models they haven't made yet.
Yeah, this feels like a really crappy bait and switch from GW. They call the book Pariah and say it'll have Necron content, then much closer to its release they tell us it's about the Pariah Nexus area of space (or something, not really been keeping up with the PA fluff too much) rather than the iconic unit of an army the book features.
I'm really hoping Necrons get some sort of proper anti-psyker tech in their new Codex. One of the most annoying things about the current army is how bad they are on that front. Considering they defeated the most psychically powerful race that has ever existed in the galaxy and previous fluff had them genetically engineering some of the most potent anti-psyker beings that seems like an odd omission.
2020/06/24 09:08:51
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Charistoph wrote: You'd think with a name of "Pariah" one might see an anti-Psyker Stratagem or Relic, at least, if not units or buildings of models they haven't made yet.
Yeah, this feels like a really crappy bait and switch from GW. They call the book Pariah and say it'll have Necron content, then much closer to its release they tell us it's about the Pariah Nexus area of space (or something, not really been keeping up with the PA fluff too much) rather than the iconic unit of an army the book features.
I mean, they've literally been pulling this sort of thing since book 1.
"Oh hey, check out these new Howling Banshees, now with alternate heads to represent ones that have taken the Ynnari path."
"Oh wow, I guess the Ynnari rules must be getting expanded, perhaps with rules much more tailored to individual units or (former) factions."
"Hah, just messing with you! Nah, it's the same garbage we released in WD. But we couldn't be arsed making any content for Dark Eldar, and the book was looking a bit thin with just a handful of pages of Eldar stuff. The Ynari rules, though, proved to be excellent padding. We're even thinking of turning the ones that don't sell into Citadel-brand loft-insulation."
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You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
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2020/06/24 09:56:42
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Charistoph wrote: You'd think with a name of "Pariah" one might see an anti-Psyker Stratagem or Relic, at least, if not units or buildings of models they haven't made yet.
Yeah, this feels like a really crappy bait and switch from GW. They call the book Pariah and say it'll have Necron content, then much closer to its release they tell us it's about the Pariah Nexus area of space (or something, not really been keeping up with the PA fluff too much) rather than the iconic unit of an army the book features.
I'm really hoping Necrons get some sort of proper anti-psyker tech in their new Codex. One of the most annoying things about the current army is how bad they are on that front. Considering they defeated the most psychically powerful race that has ever existed in the galaxy and previous fluff had them genetically engineering some of the most potent anti-psyker beings that seems like an odd omission.
Come on now, iconic unit? It existed for 2 editions and is only noteworthy by virtue of it being removed from the army, newer players (anyone playing less than 9 years) won't even know that they were a unit before. Pariahs are also the term for psychically null beings; which the crons used to make their unit and one of the new models is a psychic null.