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2020/07/31 10:26:10
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Jokes aside though what is the realistic outcome that the skulking critter is Destroyers #3 instead of a new Caoptek Anti-Psyker?
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2020/07/31 13:05:32
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Eyjio wrote: Been combing through the crusade upgrade stuff trying to spot any hints, using an AI rescaler to try and make it readable, though its still really blurry so some words may be off. Could probably reverse engineer it all if I knew the font but whatever, it's not that much more info. Here's a few tidbits which might be interesting, including fluff text in case I mess up the real rules:
Canoptek Units Trait 5-6: Self-regenerator Nodes Augmented with advanced matter replication capacitors, these Canoptek constructs can swiftly repair themselves in battle. Each time you make Reanimation Protocol rolls for this unit, you can change a single dice result to a 6.
I thought that was interesting, as Canoptek units don't have RP and haven't since the 7th ed decurion formation they got. Looks like at least some will!
Cryptothralls are a Canoptek unit with RP, the question is if any others will get it.
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2020/07/31 13:12:11
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Thanks for contacting us and there is no need to worry. We are just in the process of repackaging the stalker but it should be available to order again within the next couple of weeks.
Now with a repack it might be that its price is going up to be similar to the other centipede walker; it might also be that they are doing something with the guns as it does use the green-glow-rod design which is clearly being phased out by GW, which would mean that they want to stop production of them and not have to keep them going for the FW offering.
Thanks for contacting us and there is no need to worry. We are just in the process of repackaging the stalker but it should be available to order again within the next couple of weeks.
Now with a repack it might be that its price is going up to be similar to the other centipede walker; it might also be that they are doing something with the guns as it does use the green-glow-rod design which is clearly being phased out by GW, which would mean that they want to stop production of them and not have to keep them going for the FW offering.
Oh, that is good news. I was honestly pretty surprised that it was going away. I'm guessing they may be replacing the green rods.
"The Silent King formed a new Triarch with Hapthatra the Radiant and Mesophet of the Shadowed Hand, who join him in battle atop the Dias (sic) of Dominion."
Er... good?
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the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2020/07/31 14:36:02
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Is it not amazingly exciting when a former background character teams up with McNobody and Nonexistia to... pose for a selfie?
Honestly what they need to do is flesh out the existing dynasties to make them more distinctive, rather than constantly guess which dynasty that start with an N actually matters.
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2020/07/31 14:37:53
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
vipoid wrote: "The Silent King formed a new Triarch with Hapthatra the Radiant and Mesophet of the Shadowed Hand, who join him in battle atop the Dias (sic) of Dominion."
Er... good?
I remember another character who used to ride a dias of destruction...
Continue to be kind of non-plussed. Obviously not a bad model, but I think its confirming how much weird hats go to make a character. The idea that this is 3 characters rather than big cheese and two minions sort of further highlights just how.. non-special they appear.
2020/07/31 15:07:14
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Really not a big fan of the Silent King model to be honest, and the more I look at it, the more it just looks like he's going "BEHOLD! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!" There's no way I would have guessed the models next to him were meant to be the Triarch, none of them have any degree of ornate decoration that you might expect, just normal Overlord stuff - which are also some of our weaker designs IMO. They don't radiate power or seem intimidating, they just look bored; the Silent King especially doesn't even seem angry, more shocked. Also the front view of the Silent King makes that bit of his crown look like a horn. I dunno, I just expected him to have something like fake golden armour, a tall collar, broader pauldrons, or anything which might denote a king other than a cape and silly hat. Really disappointing.
The void dragon on the other hand, whilst I understand that a lot of people might have wanted a literal dragon, is one of my favourite models GW has ever made, and sits right up there for me with this old Necron Lord, which along with the Nightbringer and Destroyers is one of the models which sold me on Necrons:
So yeah, mixed emotions on it all. Might try to convert something onto the Silent King to make him look cooler.
2020/07/31 17:52:00
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Eyjio wrote: Really not a big fan of the Silent King model to be honest, and the more I look at it, the more it just looks like he's going "BEHOLD! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!" There's no way I would have guessed the models next to him were meant to be the Triarch, none of them have any degree of ornate decoration that you might expect, just normal Overlord stuff - which are also some of our weaker designs IMO. They don't radiate power or seem intimidating, they just look bored; the Silent King especially doesn't even seem angry, more shocked. Also the front view of the Silent King makes that bit of his crown look like a horn. I dunno, I just expected him to have something like fake golden armour, a tall collar, broader pauldrons, or anything which might denote a king other than a cape and silly hat. Really disappointing.
The void dragon on the other hand, whilst I understand that a lot of people might have wanted a literal dragon, is one of my favourite models GW has ever made, and sits right up there for me with this old Necron Lord, which along with the Nightbringer and Destroyers is one of the models which sold me on Necrons:
So yeah, mixed emotions on it all. Might try to convert something onto the Silent King to make him look cooler.
Yeah i agree, his fellow "overlords" look a lot more like crypteks
2020/07/31 18:21:56
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
vipoid wrote: "The Silent King formed a new Triarch with Hapthatra the Radiant and Mesophet of the Shadowed Hand, who join him in battle atop the Dias (sic) of Dominion."
Er... good?
I remember another character who used to ride a dias of destruction...
Continue to be kind of non-plussed. Obviously not a bad model, but I think its confirming how much weird hats go to make a character. The idea that this is 3 characters rather than big cheese and two minions sort of further highlights just how.. non-special they appear.
Its a 'centerpiece' model that manages to be boring. Big dude stands on a random floating chunk of building, while his pet stenographers type away on unnecessary keyboards, and a screaming torso draws attention away from the titular character.
It doesn't help that the last codex built up the other 'S' dynasty as the big important one, and the Silent King's big plan is to... not play anymore. Stop being evil robots, get new flesh sacks and... go farm or something. Sure, he'll psychically oppress other species in the process, but his goal of finding a nice quiet island where the warp can't bother him is incompatible with actually playing 40k.
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2020/07/31 20:37:52
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I think it's pretty freaking metal with a hell of a lot of cool things going on, so it seems hardly boring. It's certainly one of the better ones as far as centrepiece models go. But that's just me.
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2020/07/31 20:52:36
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I just can't get past 'three guys hold art-deco 'pole-arms' on a balcony, two are hunched over consoles, one poses for selfies'
The putty lightning torso adds... something else to look at, I guess?
Silent King Bob may or may not have a shark fin on top of his head? Which may or may not have folded out from his head (leaving the empty groove), like a He-man villain?
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2020/07/31 21:26:17
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Eyjio wrote: Really not a big fan of the Silent King model to be honest, and the more I look at it, the more it just looks like he's going "BEHOLD! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!" There's no way I would have guessed the models next to him were meant to be the Triarch, none of them have any degree of ornate decoration that you might expect, just normal Overlord stuff - which are also some of our weaker designs IMO. They don't radiate power or seem intimidating, they just look bored; the Silent King especially doesn't even seem angry, more shocked. Also the front view of the Silent King makes that bit of his crown look like a horn. I dunno, I just expected him to have something like fake golden armour, a tall collar, broader pauldrons, or anything which might denote a king other than a cape and silly hat. Really disappointing.
Same. Until GW came out and said it, I had no idea that the two other models were supposed to by anything special. I just assumed they were pilots or something (no different to those of the Annihilation Barge).
Then again, if it wasn't for his oversized cape and lollipop-staff, I wouldn't think the Silent King model was anything special either.
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2020/07/31 21:42:10
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Eyjio wrote: Really not a big fan of the Silent King model to be honest, and the more I look at it, the more it just looks like he's going "BEHOLD! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!" There's no way I would have guessed the models next to him were meant to be the Triarch, none of them have any degree of ornate decoration that you might expect, just normal Overlord stuff - which are also some of our weaker designs IMO. They don't radiate power or seem intimidating, they just look bored; the Silent King especially doesn't even seem angry, more shocked. Also the front view of the Silent King makes that bit of his crown look like a horn. I dunno, I just expected him to have something like fake golden armour, a tall collar, broader pauldrons, or anything which might denote a king other than a cape and silly hat. Really disappointing.
Same. Until GW came out and said it, I had no idea that the two other models were supposed to by anything special. I just assumed they were pilots or something (no different to those of the Annihilation Barge).
Then again, if it wasn't for his oversized cape and lollipop-staff, I wouldn't think the Silent King model was anything special either.
Well, that was probably because the predecessors of Hapthatra and Mesophet died 60 million years ago. That was just a wee bit more extra time to find suitable replacements than what was actually needed
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2020/07/31 21:53:07
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Honestly my favorite thing about the Silent King model is the two floating shield pylons. It'd be cool to get those as just autonomous floating shield projectors that move alongside phalanxes of Warriors giving them an invuln. The rest of the Dias can stay at home, imo.
I personally like the new model, it strikes all the right chords for me. But there's only 2 things I dislike, the C'tan and the green, which in and of itself doesnt bother me too much as it'll be replaced with red and orange. But the C'tan... Maybe I'll paint it red/orange and dry brush silver on it? I dont know, might just remove it for a crystal
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2020/08/01 19:37:57
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
unitled wrote: Look, it's obvious: we've had Skorpekhs (scorpions), lokhust (locusts), next we've either got Frog Destroyers or River of Blood Destroyers.
Haha! Awesome.
Have an exalt.
Though does funnily play into the Spacegyptians theme.
2020/08/01 22:56:37
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
All the old easy to build stuff is going, which makes me think that we are going to get a whole bunch of new kits to supplement the starter. The last ones were a good value, so it makes me hopeful.
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2020/08/02 01:10:10
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Or is being reboxed for 9th edition, which gives the product a new SKU and the old one is discontinued.
Egyptian Space Zombie wrote: ... which makes me think that we are going to get a whole bunch of new kits to supplement the starter. The last ones were a good value, so it makes me hopeful.
Warhammer Community has already confirmed Easy to Build Invader ATV and Firestrike Servo-turret for Space Marines and Lokhust Heavy Destroyer and Canoptek Doomstalker for Necrons.
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2020/08/03 12:41:30
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Honestly I'm already planning to convert the Silent King with bits from that very similar Nighthaunt guy on a floating throne so I might just not put his two nobodies on and use them as generic crypteks or something.
I wonder how big the Silent King is off his throne and compared to Abaddon and Guilliman. I'm guessing he's not going to be much bigger than a normal overlord.
2020/08/03 13:18:14
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Sim-Life wrote: Honestly I'm already planning to convert the Silent King with bits from that very similar Nighthaunt guy on a floating throne so I might just not put his two nobodies on and use them as generic crypteks or something.
I wonder how big the Silent King is off his throne and compared to Abaddon and Guilliman. I'm guessing he's not going to be much bigger than a normal overlord.
I expect he'll stand a good bit taller than a normal Overlord. I reckon he'll be head and shoulders above.
However, I was very much considering doing away with the attendants and replacing them with actual connected pilots like in the CCBs. The kit shall have to be inspected.
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2020/08/03 13:30:58
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Sasori wrote: Hoping we get some news about the Lokhust and the DDS this week or next week.
Would be really nice if we could get those kits sooner!
I expect that a bunch of the non-Indomitus sculpts will come with the codex in October. The rest will come a few months later. Same way they did Sisters.
2020/08/03 15:05:42
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Sasori wrote: Hoping we get some news about the Lokhust and the DDS this week or next week.
Would be really nice if we could get those kits sooner!
I expect that a bunch of the non-Indomitus sculpts will come with the codex in October. The rest will come a few months later. Same way they did Sisters.
That's not how they did Sisters though...
Sisters got launched with a big box that had a codex in it. It had easy build versions of key units.
When the codex became available by itself? That's when the Sisters launch actually started with the full kits.
It's similar to how Lumineth are being done: army pack first with LE book, book plus models later.
2020/08/03 15:31:05
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Sasori wrote: Hoping we get some news about the Lokhust and the DDS this week or next week.
Would be really nice if we could get those kits sooner!
I expect that a bunch of the non-Indomitus sculpts will come with the codex in October. The rest will come a few months later. Same way they did Sisters.
That's not how they did Sisters though...
Sisters got launched with a big box that had a codex in it. It had easy build versions of key units.
When the codex became available by itself? That's when the Sisters launch actually started with the full kits.
It's similar to how Lumineth are being done: army pack first with LE book, book plus models later.
The actual Sisters launch was in January 2020 and the early box was just something they shoved out early to keep their "Sisters in 2019" promise.
2020/08/03 15:35:29
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
The actual Sisters launch was in January 2020 and the early box was just something they shoved out early to keep their "Sisters in 2019" promise.
And yet here we are seeing them do it with Lumineth and Indomitus...
You're wrong. The launch was the army pack. That wasn't something they just "shoved out early". The books came from a printer in China that has a 5-6 month lead time.
2020/08/03 20:07:05
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
130 points seems pretty solid for the Doomstalker. While it's BS4+, notably it doesn't degrade.
The Gauss Destructor is interesting to say the least... 1 Shot at min 3 Damage is pretty decent, and has the ability to do significantly more. It's just one shot a piece though.
The Enmitic weapon seems pretty bad. If it was damage 2 I'd consider it, but just -1 AP D1 and it's not even strength 8 doesn't seem very good.
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130 points seems pretty solid for the Doomstalker. While it's BS4+, notably it doesn't degrade.
The Gauss Destructor is interesting to say the least... 1 Shot at min 3 Damage is pretty decent, and has the ability to do significantly more. It's just one shot a piece though.
The Enmitic weapon seems pretty bad. If it was damage 2 I'd consider it, but just -1 AP D1 and it's not even strength 8 doesn't seem very good.
Where are these images from? It seems weird that the enmitic weapon isn't blast like the skorpekh lord's