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 Vineheart01 wrote:
More than likely they go a Speedfreek route.

Snakebites has a generic trait, possibly lackluster, but Beast Snaggas get doubledipping duty.

Though i'd be surprised if snakebites remain just a 6+++. Given how loud the comments were that its totally worthless lol

All I've heard so far for rumors is that snakebikes get the perma transhuman. It would make sense considering its been a pretty common trend so far (SM strat, DA, Admech lucius WLT, DE coven, and sisters strat).

my biggest fear so far is transport restrictions cause of keywords, meaning the snagga guyz wont be able embark on normal transports and boyz cant embark on the slide...

for me... that would feth up this new codex and all the nice releases BIG TIME

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gungo wrote:

The hunter rig/chariot is meh…
The great white beast rider is named snakebite so won’t see the table unless major changes!

its a dual kit, so you there definitely will be a generic beast snagga boss on squig, which you can play him as

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also bummer that we didnt got any new rules leaked

Well I kinda still hope that if you go with shooty option you can still throw bucket full of dice at your opponent.

Also, in the preview they said that deffkoptas can be armed with dakkaguns. Which can mean nothing.

The box also was announced to be on pre-order next Saturday, so we will have our new codex in two weeks.

Even if you don't want to splurge on the limited edition box i'm fairly certain that it'll be copied/piced to heck and back in a day or so. Hell I'd happily pass along any pages anyone wanted. Cause orks are the only army i'd bother to get the spec editions of.

we'll probably have leaks next Saturday and full print Sunday, like with Sisters.

Seeing what they did to AdMech and Drukhari, I'm not sure what will happen

Well, I' m not a fan of Sneakebites and all of this AOS vibe in 40K… but…. Then I found, all this dyno stuff can be repleaced with AdMech components - kick out the white shark and use the Ballistarius type of feets!!!

Conversions incomming!

Most of the stuff is ok, but doesn't hype me. The only models I'm not too fond of are the sled and the beast boss on foot, both kind of look like 80s action toys.

Luckily, the best wife in the world got me a gargantuan squiggoth for my birthday, so if the sleds get awesome rules, all I need to do is put the proper armament on the howdah and run it as counts-as.

I think all the upcoming orks, including those that were previously showed like the snaggas, are godawful except Kommandos and Deffkoptas, which I consider awesome. I don't mind Boyz but there needs to be a chance of building 30 models with the same loadout that look reasonably unique to convince me.

The huge thing on oval base is definitely one of the worst looking models ever produced by GW.

I hope already existing units are going to be ok in the new codex as no way I'm gonna buy the new stuff.

GreenTidePackers wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
More than likely they go a Speedfreek route.

Snakebites has a generic trait, possibly lackluster, but Beast Snaggas get doubledipping duty.

Though i'd be surprised if snakebites remain just a 6+++. Given how loud the comments were that its totally worthless lol

All I've heard so far for rumors is that snakebikes get the perma transhuman. It would make sense considering its been a pretty common trend so far (SM strat, DA, Admech lucius WLT, DE coven, and sisters strat).

I think that would be logic as Snaggas rush vehicles and T5 is not enough

Anyways, Snaggas will be more expensive thna normal. boyz and Im not sure it will be worth the points for a 6++

The fear for transport rules is legit since GW did that to marines and it caused all sorts of headaches and angry marine players.
The one hope we have is they didnt reveal anything that could be a transport. The Kill Rig looks to just be a gun boat or a Wurrboy tower.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
The fear for transport rules is legit since GW did that to marines and it caused all sorts of headaches and angry marine players.
The one hope we have is they didnt reveal anything that could be a transport. The Kill Rig looks to just be a gun boat or a Wurrboy tower.

they said in the preview, the boat can be used as a transport (no wurrboy on top but a harpoon style missle and no gun on front) and that it fits 15 "beast-snaggas" :/

To me it appears that on the Hunta Rig the flat space above the Beastie could be used for transport capacity. Suspect this as the Killa Rig model has a gun placement in the same place while nothing is here for the Hunta Rig.

Using GW spatial calculations (as observed from Battlewagons, Gorkanaut, Trukk, etc.) would estimate a transport capacity of at least 10.

As RedNoak said, they confirmed the harpoon sled to be a transport for 15 beast snaggas. Let's hope this doesn't mean that beast snaggas can't ride regular transports.

 Jidmah wrote:
The box also was announced to be on pre-order next Saturday, so we will have our new codex in two weeks.

So much for "orktober" releases.


But i really hate that only beastsnaggas can ride those rigs. I think all the models look pretty cool, and i like the rig as well. Its just greed, i would assume, is the reason for why only beast snaggas can ride those rigs.

And thats stupid

Keep in mind that Warhammer Community has been wrong on these kind of things as often as they were right, so let's not cry about the sky falling just yet.

 Jidmah wrote:
Keep in mind that Warhammer Community has been wrong on these kind of things as often as they were right, so let's not cry about the sky falling just yet.

but i fail to see how they would implement that. I mean if they say, that only beast snaggas can ride the rigs, would they make a work around for normal boys to be able to ride it? DOnt get me wrong i remain hopeful, and regardless, the new miniatures, i really like them. but i really dont hope they pull some gak like what they pulled with the space marines with sudden transports not being able to transport specific types of space marines, just because

We all hope that. We also all know that it's not beyond GW to pull stuff like this.

As for the how - just look at the rules for rhinos and impulsors.

GreenTidePackers wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
More than likely they go a Speedfreek route.

Snakebites has a generic trait, possibly lackluster, but Beast Snaggas get doubledipping duty.

Though i'd be surprised if snakebites remain just a 6+++. Given how loud the comments were that its totally worthless lol

All I've heard so far for rumors is that snakebikes get the perma transhuman. It would make sense considering its been a pretty common trend so far (SM strat, DA, Admech lucius WLT, DE coven, and sisters strat).

They get perma transhuman against strengh 7 or less. My source is fairly reliable but not 100% so take this with a rather small amount of salt

 addnid wrote:

GreenTidePackers wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
More than likely they go a Speedfreek route.

Snakebites has a generic trait, possibly lackluster, but Beast Snaggas get doubledipping duty.

Though i'd be surprised if snakebites remain just a 6+++. Given how loud the comments were that its totally worthless lol

All I've heard so far for rumors is that snakebikes get the perma transhuman. It would make sense considering its been a pretty common trend so far (SM strat, DA, Admech lucius WLT, DE coven, and sisters strat).

They get perma transhuman against strengh 7 or less. My source is fairly reliable but not 100% so take this with a rather small amount of salt

If it turns out to be true, that would be fething insane. permanent transhuman for snakebites? So even armies shooting out a ton of shots with +1 to wound wouldnt mean gak as they always only ever wound on 4s? I should start snakebiti-fy my ork army..

Strengh 8 and 9 etc . would still wound on 3s since tougness 5 (2s with a +1 mod)

My fear, (if snakebite strengh 7 transhuman is true) is that boyz (regardless of their klan) will end up at 10 points per model.
Perhaps it will be a transhuman that doesn't work on "to wound modifiers". I have no info on this (but it would be weird as no trasnhuman rule so far has excluded "to wound modifiers"

Pre-order next saturday and delivery in october. I still believe! Just finished fullpaint on my last list, I wanna enjoy it for few weeks at least!

Wouldn't it be like the current flashgitz? where transports can carry up to x Flash Gitz or boys? I feel like the snaggas will be another kind of unit where it can be taken into detachments of different klanz without preventing the detachment getting benefits but they wont gain any unless its a snakebites detachment


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That being said I didnt really look at the rules yet... I kinda rely on this thread for any news

pepi55 wrote:
Wouldn't it be like the current flashgitz? where transports can carry up to x Flash Gitz or boys? I feel like the snaggas will be another kind of unit where it can be taken into detachments of different klanz without preventing the detachment getting benefits but they wont gain any unless its a snakebites detachment


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That being said I didnt really look at the rules yet... I kinda rely on this thread for any news

They will be more like speed freeks, so you will have goff beast snaggas, deffskulls beastsnaggas, snakebite beastsnaggas and so on. It's just likely that snakebites get something like "BEAST SNAGGA INFANTRY and BEASTS get 5+ FNP instead of 6+"

 Jidmah wrote:

pepi55 wrote:
Wouldn't it be like the current flashgitz? where transports can carry up to x Flash Gitz or boys? I feel like the snaggas will be another kind of unit where it can be taken into detachments of different klanz without preventing the detachment getting benefits but they wont gain any unless its a snakebites detachment


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That being said I didnt really look at the rules yet... I kinda rely on this thread for any news

They will be more like speed freeks, so you will have goff beast snaggas, deffskulls beastsnaggas, snakebite beastsnaggas and so on. It's just likely that snakebites get something like "BEAST SNAGGA INFANTRY and BEASTS get 5+ FNP instead of 6+"

Well,, whatever it is, im pretty hype for the new codex if any of the last ones are an indication of the overall balance (I understand that most if not all units are balanced to be playable for other factions).

 addnid wrote:
Strengh 8 and 9 etc . would still wound on 3s since tougness 5 (2s with a +1 mod)

My fear, (if snakebite strengh 7 transhuman is true) is that boyz (regardless of their klan) will end up at 10 points per model.
Perhaps it will be a transhuman that doesn't work on "to wound modifiers". I have no info on this (but it would be weird as no trasnhuman rule so far has excluded "to wound modifiers"

sure. but attacking snakebite boys with strength 8 weapons is a terrible choice of targets

Beardedragon wrote:

 addnid wrote:
Strengh 8 and 9 etc . would still wound on 3s since tougness 5 (2s with a +1 mod)

My fear, (if snakebite strengh 7 transhuman is true) is that boyz (regardless of their klan) will end up at 10 points per model.
Perhaps it will be a transhuman that doesn't work on "to wound modifiers". I have no info on this (but it would be weird as no trasnhuman rule so far has excluded "to wound modifiers"

sure. but attacking snakebite boys with strength 8 weapons is a terrible choice of targets

Nothing will be really good to shoot at snakebites, aside from s5 weapons (not that common for now). A good argument for expensive (PPModel wise) boyz :(

 addnid wrote:

Beardedragon wrote:

 addnid wrote:
Strengh 8 and 9 etc . would still wound on 3s since tougness 5 (2s with a +1 mod)

My fear, (if snakebite strengh 7 transhuman is true) is that boyz (regardless of their klan) will end up at 10 points per model.
Perhaps it will be a transhuman that doesn't work on "to wound modifiers". I have no info on this (but it would be weird as no trasnhuman rule so far has excluded "to wound modifiers"

sure. but attacking snakebite boys with strength 8 weapons is a terrible choice of targets

Nothing will be really good to shoot at snakebites, aside from s5 weapons (not that common for now). A good argument for expensive (PPModel wise) boyz :(

but if only snakebites gets this transhuman stuff then every other boy type will just be over priced :( I guess we will have to see.

But yea i hope that maybe there can be some sort of WAAAGH! mechanic. Maybe something we can toggle on at the start of a round or something. Im really looking forward to the codex. But im also slightly sad as i just made an army composition that i have not lost with at all. And i wanted to see how far i could take it! the new codex will probably be out before the next tournement i can attend.

That S7 transhuman sound rather terrbile to me. It never affects anything but S6 and S7 weapons, so if your opponent has none of those, your trait simply does nothing.

Yeah, and S6/7 aren't even easy to spam or available to all armies.

Drukhari for example have only Shredders that match that profile, the typical anti infantry weapons are S4/S5 or poison.

I love spamming Assault Cannons with my SW though, I typically start with 48 shots at BS3+ on the table.