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2020/09/27 21:32:48
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Mr_Rose wrote: Technically, the Space Wolf chapter tactic rule is in the main codex so you don’t “need” the supplement.
That said I never bought the last marine codex or supplements so I’d don’t know what exactly would be in them.
The super doctrines, warlord traits, strats, psychic powers and chapter specific units, expanded fluff etc and assumingly crusade gubbins.
The supplements are the character and flavour of the chapter, the codex is the bare minimums to run a chapter.
technicly until the supplement comes out the PA books will still be valid so just use your super doctrines etc from it until your supplement comes out.
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2020/09/27 22:23:35
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Billagio wrote: So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Yes, that's what this means.
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2020/09/27 22:44:26
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
How much later is hard to say. I expect to see a second wave this month at the very least for both Marines and Necrons. Though I think it will take three or four waves to get everything previewed so far.
Necrons still have a bunch of stuff
Monolith
Void Dragon
6 armed gunslinging hero
Flayed ones
Wraith Destroyers
2 more Cryptek heroes
Add to that an expected Warriors set since right now the only way to get basic troops is split sets on ebay from Indomitus or the getting started sets.
There's also several heroes from the Indomitus set that don't have their own release in a box and the reanimator.
There's also several heroes from the Indomitus set that don't have their own release in a box and the reanimator.
Three for Marines(Judiciar, Chaplain, Bladeguard Ancient) two for Necrons(Destroyer Lord and Plasmancer plus Murderbuckets).
I'm wondering if the intention might be to pace the releases for both Necrons and Marines together? There's more than enough for both factions to justify that kinda thing. The only real 'equivalent' that Marines don't have is something tying to the Monolith and Void Dragon shard, while Necrons have a bit more characters and less 'basic' stuff to come.
Overread wrote: How much later is hard to say. I expect to see a second wave this month at the very least for both Marines and Necrons. Though I think it will take three or four waves to get everything previewed so far.
Necrons still have a bunch of stuff
Monolith
Void Dragon
6 armed gunslinging hero
Flayed ones
Wraith Destroyers
2 more Cryptek heroes
Add to that an expected Warriors set since right now the only way to get basic troops is split sets on ebay from Indomitus or the getting started sets.
There's also several heroes from the Indomitus set that don't have their own release in a box and the reanimator.
Necron-wise I expect everything non-indomitius related to be out in the October cycle. The stuff locked to the Starter set may stay locked there or a start collecting. The stuff that was on the combined sprue from Indomitus is probably a ways out from being released if I were to guess.
There's also several heroes from the Indomitus set that don't have their own release in a box and the reanimator.
Three for Marines(Judiciar, Chaplain, Bladeguard Ancient) two for Necrons(Destroyer Lord and Plasmancer plus Murderbuckets).
I'm wondering if the intention might be to pace the releases for both Necrons and Marines together?
There's more than enough for both factions to justify that kinda thing. The only real 'equivalent' that Marines don't have is something tying to the Monolith and Void Dragon shard, while Necrons have a bit more characters and less 'basic' stuff to come.
There's probably more that my brain is blanking on for both factions, but that's off the top of my head.
They're going to have to release the new Necron Warriors sometime in the near future.
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2020/09/27 23:08:32
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
H.B.M.C. wrote: I'm not sure why GW insist on calling Crusade "narrative" play...
Maybe because it provides tools to tell a story with an army, where battles have meaning and consequences, with characters and units getting more powerful or suffering wounds.
Wanting to play specific battles like the fall of cadia is fine, but that is reenactment rather than narrative.
2020/09/27 23:33:06
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
H.B.M.C. wrote:No Chaplain for us next week, huh? Ok.
The Primaris Chaplin on the bike is on the preorder list for next week. Are you expecting something else?
2020/09/27 23:37:59
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Think it will have to be a hard pass on the Collector's Edition this time around for the Space Marine book, was hoping for at least an alternate cover if not something closer to the Primaris edition from early 8th edition. At least it is a bit of cost saving.
Sadly, Space Marine enthusiasts in Australia and New Zealand will have to wait a little longer to get their hands on this skull-masked hero. The mass-conveyer the Chaplains bound for the Antipodes were on has been delayed by a storm worthy of Fenrisian helwinter – we expect that you’ll be able to pre-order him around the 17th of October.
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2020/09/28 00:22:21
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
Gotcha, Dont think ive been involved in buying something during a large release like this except Orktober a few years back. Dont think they did a staggered release for that (except for the buggies being in the specialist game, but still available day 1 technically)
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
Gotcha, Dont think ive been involved in buying something during a large release like this except Orktober a few years back. Dont think they did a staggered release for that (except for the buggies being in the specialist game, but still available day 1 technically)
I mean besides the fact that the orks were staggered and werent even released during October :p
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2020/09/28 00:52:43
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
Gotcha, Dont think ive been involved in buying something during a large release like this except Orktober a few years back. Dont think they did a staggered release for that (except for the buggies being in the specialist game, but still available day 1 technically)
I mean besides the fact that the orks were staggered and werent even released during October :p
the bixd set was october with the individual releases in november IIRC
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2020/09/28 02:39:12
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
I'd expect them next weekend when the pre-orders go up. That's when most of the usual suspects will be able to give their thoughts on the preview copies they were sent.
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
H.B.M.C. wrote:No Chaplain for us next week, huh? Ok.
The Primaris Chaplin on the bike is on the preorder list for next week. Are you expecting something else?
Sons of behemoth are coming week after codexes. Gw generally doesn't mix aos and 40k so odds are more models 24.10 earliest
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
Gotcha, Dont think ive been involved in buying something during a large release like this except Orktober a few years back. Dont think they did a staggered release for that (except for the buggies being in the specialist game, but still available day 1 technically)
I mean besides the fact that the orks were staggered and werent even released during October :p
Orks were said to come october, all preorders were october. Only ones that can complaie are those who have deliberately ignored how gw counts stuff despite not being secret.
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2020/09/28 07:09:36
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Yeah, the book needs a thorough review before building anything new. Even warriors - it looks like the new resurrection mechanic might change the way you want to equip them as superior durability may offset the shortcomings of the reaper.
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2020/09/28 09:07:37
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
H.B.M.C. wrote:No Chaplain for us next week, huh? Ok.
The Primaris Chaplin on the bike is on the preorder list for next week. Are you expecting something else?
Sons of behemoth are coming week after codexes. Gw generally doesn't mix aos and 40k so odds are more models 24.10 earliest
Billagio wrote:So does this mean that Heavy Intercessors and the Gladiator are coming out later than the codex?
Very common for large releases. The Codex is released the first week, but the next week has additional models to from the codex that are not released the first week. Adepta Sororitas started with the codex, cards, dice, and three kits the first week, with 5 more kits the very next week week.
Gotcha, Dont think ive been involved in buying something during a large release like this except Orktober a few years back. Dont think they did a staggered release for that (except for the buggies being in the specialist game, but still available day 1 technically)
I mean besides the fact that the orks were staggered and werent even released during October :p
Orks were said to come october, all preorders were october. Only ones that can complaie are those who have deliberately ignored how gw counts stuff despite not being secret.
marines will likely be a prolonged rtelease as our supplements come out, which means we proably won't see EVERYTHING until eatly 2021 when the dork angels supplement comes out
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2020/09/28 11:16:40
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
H.B.M.C. wrote: I'd expect them next weekend when the pre-orders go up. That's when most of the usual suspects will be able to give their thoughts on the preview copies they were sent.
My favorite fellow is always "guy who reads the entire book breathlessly at just about the correct speed for me to type."
Ten bucks to that dude on patreon is what I pay for most of my 40k books.
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"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
2020/09/28 11:33:22
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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