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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Was the Necron vs Salamanders game recorded anywhere? I'd love to watch it

Not sure if the link ever even changes? When they do a live battle report, it's saved (including the live chat) as an upload.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFP9V5xeIEg

 Super Ready wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Was the Necron vs Salamanders game recorded anywhere? I'd love to watch it

Not sure if the link ever even changes? When they do a live battle report, it's saved (including the live chat) as an upload.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFP9V5xeIEg

Usually a dead time between the stream and youtube allowing you to watch it as a video but otherwise I believe it's just always their if they tick the option during the setup of the stream.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Was the Necron vs Salamanders game recorded anywhere? I'd love to watch it

Tabletob titans channei where you　can find all except the new tuesday games for premium users

Insularum wrote:

 Coolyo294 wrote:
So for the relic terminators, did tartaros and cataphractii armor get flattened into one generic terminator profile or did they retain their unique characteristics?

They are one generic unit now, with standard terminator profile, tartaros is not fast, cataphractii is not slow or more durable. They can be equiped with any combo of stuff from the plastic GW kits, no FW 30k options and still no tele homer though. I think cataphractii captain is gone too although not 100% on that.

Looks like reaper cannon is now ap2 and claws are +1 attack each, not just for a pair. Looks like the only really advantage these have other generic terminators is mixing claws and guns, or putting a x2 str weapon on the sarge.

Aw, that stings I have 15 cataphractii I like to run that got a lot of mileage out of their 4++ save.

Interesting of note, new Veil of Darkness let's you use it during the move phase, and not just the end of movement phase. Not sure if that actually changes anything or not.

 Coolyo294 wrote:

Insularum wrote:

 Coolyo294 wrote:
So for the relic terminators, did tartaros and cataphractii armor get flattened into one generic terminator profile or did they retain their unique characteristics?

They are one generic unit now, with standard terminator profile, tartaros is not fast, cataphractii is not slow or more durable. They can be equiped with any combo of stuff from the plastic GW kits, no FW 30k options and still no tele homer though. I think cataphractii captain is gone too although not 100% on that.

Looks like reaper cannon is now ap2 and claws are +1 attack each, not just for a pair. Looks like the only really advantage these have other generic terminators is mixing claws and guns, or putting a x2 str weapon on the sarge.

Aw, that stings I have 15 cataphractii I like to run that got a lot of mileage out of their 4++ save.

I’ve got mixed feelings on the relic terminators.

I build my Tartaros from the BoP box with a mixed loadout that is legal in 30k, but when they got around to publishing the 40k rules, was not. Of course, it’s a mixed load that made more sense in 7th, but at least I can field them now. Big plus, they have just been collecting dust.

My capheracts were built 2xLC on all of them. I figured with the 4++ I could get away from the need for SSs (and just taking normal assault terminators), and with all the re-rolls to wound, get some work done. They just got a bit squishier. Of course, with the new rules for LC, they also got a lot more blendery. And a 2+ save is worth a bit more then it did in prior editions. The drop in the invuln will mater when facing -3 AP stuff, which covers a few things. And they got a little faster.

If I were to build them again today, it would be different. But C’est La vie.

This right here is what annoys me... marines get the exact same relic but better.... theirs gives +1 T, +1 W, AND an automatic 2+ save. But for any other race? No.

Also TabletopTitans are doing a codex Marines revirw today in 3 hours. I think that will be more telling as they have had a bit more time and are able to call out tmthe changes directly.

That new Gravis Captain seems like a good choice for making a Chapter Master. Give him the relic that boosts his Toughness and Wounds and a 2+ Save, then aim for a Warlord trait that increases durability like Iron Resolve or Stubborn Heroism (if an Imperial Fist), and you have yourself a T6, W9, 2+/4++/6+++ Captain that lets you allow one unit with in 6" reroll everything. Not bad.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That new Gravis Captain seems like a good choice for making a Chapter Master. Give him the relic that boosts his Toughness and Wounds and a 2+ Save, then aim for a Warlord trait that increases durability like Iron Resolve or Stubborn Heroism (if an Imperial Fist), and you have yourself a T6, W9, 2+/4++/6+++ Captain that lets you allow one unit with in 6" reroll everything. Not bad.

Salamander for T8, W8, 2+/4++, and ignore -1AP

 nintura wrote:
This right here is what annoys me... marines get the exact same relic but better.... theirs gives +1 T, +1 W, AND an automatic 2+ save. But for any other race? No.

The marine relic is for the chapter master upgrade only though, so its not an entirely fair comparison.

I really wish there was just a regular relic giving +1 W and T that everyone could take as that would be a perfect way to make gravis versions of characters who do not have that armour option.

 AduroT wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That new Gravis Captain seems like a good choice for making a Chapter Master. Give him the relic that boosts his Toughness and Wounds and a 2+ Save, then aim for a Warlord trait that increases durability like Iron Resolve or Stubborn Heroism (if an Imperial Fist), and you have yourself a T6, W9, 2+/4++/6+++ Captain that lets you allow one unit with in 6" reroll everything. Not bad.

Salamander for T8, W8, 2+/4++, and ignore -1AP

Funny how　he's tougher than mbt

 AduroT wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That new Gravis Captain seems like a good choice for making a Chapter Master. Give him the relic that boosts his Toughness and Wounds and a 2+ Save, then aim for a Warlord trait that increases durability like Iron Resolve or Stubborn Heroism (if an Imperial Fist), and you have yourself a T6, W9, 2+/4++/6+++ Captain that lets you allow one unit with in 6" reroll everything. Not bad.

Salamander for T8, W8, 2+/4++, and ignore -1AP

Oh dang! I like it. I suppose one could use the regular Gravis Captain, but this one has a better shooting profile. So you trade some better shooting for the ability to punch a hole in a tank. That's a fair trade.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That new Gravis Captain seems like a good choice for making a Chapter Master. Give him the relic that boosts his Toughness and Wounds and a 2+ Save, then aim for a Warlord trait that increases durability like Iron Resolve or Stubborn Heroism (if an Imperial Fist), and you have yourself a T6, W9, 2+/4++/6+++ Captain that lets you allow one unit with in 6" reroll everything. Not bad.

Salamander for T8, W8, 2+/4++, and ignore -1AP

Oh dang! I like it. I suppose one could use the regular Gravis Captain, but this one has a better shooting profile. So you trade some better shooting for the ability to punch a hole in a tank. That's a fair trade.

If you want to punch holes in tanks (my Gravis Captain is named King Bradley for a reason) you can spend some CP to give him a second Warlord Trait for so his sword is S7 and his fist is S10.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 nintura wrote:
This right here is what annoys me... marines get the exact same relic but better.... theirs gives +1 T, +1 W, AND an automatic 2+ save. But for any other race? No.

The marine relic is for the chapter master upgrade only though, so its not an entirely fair comparison.

It absolutely IS a fair comparison because the Weave has restrictions too.

Tartaros and Cataphractii were combined into one unit entry, but Land Speeders were split back out to three. That's a strange decision.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 nintura wrote:
This right here is what annoys me... marines get the exact same relic but better.... theirs gives +1 T, +1 W, AND an automatic 2+ save. But for any other race? No.

The marine relic is for the chapter master upgrade only though, so its not an entirely fair comparison.

It absolutely IS a fair comparison because the Weave has restrictions too.

Infantry. Not a massive restriction really compared to "1 specific 1 per army hq you must spend 40 points extra to access".

Hexmark Destroyer, Skorpekh Destroyer, and Warriors on the 10th, releasing on the 17th.

Just not in Australia or Kiwiland for the Hexmark.

Why do they keep having issues in Aus and New Zealand with characters but none of the rest? They also had trouble with the bike chaplain haha. Is our country against characters or something?

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Why do they keep having issues in Aus and New Zealand with characters but none of the rest? They also had trouble with the bike chaplain haha. Is our country against characters or something?

I'm guessing a shipping container has gotten 'lost' somewhere...

 AduroT wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That new Gravis Captain seems like a good choice for making a Chapter Master. Give him the relic that boosts his Toughness and Wounds and a 2+ Save, then aim for a Warlord trait that increases durability like Iron Resolve or Stubborn Heroism (if an Imperial Fist), and you have yourself a T6, W9, 2+/4++/6+++ Captain that lets you allow one unit with in 6" reroll everything. Not bad.

Salamander for T8, W8, 2+/4++, and ignore -1AP

Oh dang! I like it. I suppose one could use the regular Gravis Captain, but this one has a better shooting profile. So you trade some better shooting for the ability to punch a hole in a tank. That's a fair trade.

If you want to punch holes in tanks (my Gravis Captain is named King Bradley for a reason) you can spend some CP to give him a second Warlord Trait for so his sword is S7 and his fist is S10.

Do it. This is amazing. Yes, it is one dude and it is only in melee, but it is amazing. I am still going with the shooty dude for my Crimson Fists. Better Bolt Rifle gets more hits that way.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Why do they keep having issues in Aus and New Zealand with characters but none of the rest? They also had trouble with the bike chaplain haha. Is our country against characters or something?

They mentioned a storm last week.
Ship may have gotten damaged or just delayed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just not in Australia or Kiwiland for the Hexmark.

Look, its simple, just move your continent over to the middle of the Atlantic so you’re actually on a proper shipping lane and you’ll be good.

 AduroT wrote:

If you want to punch holes in tanks (my Gravis Captain is named King Bradley for a reason) you can spend some CP to give him a second Warlord Trait for so his sword is S7 and his fist is S10.

What warlord trait does that? Do you mean Imperium's Sword or is there one which gives a permanent strength boost?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Hexmark Destroyer, Skorpekh Destroyer, and Warriors on the 10th, releasing on the 17th.

Man I really wish they would announce when the HI's are going up.

Dudeface wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 nintura wrote:
This right here is what annoys me... marines get the exact same relic but better.... theirs gives +1 T, +1 W, AND an automatic 2+ save. But for any other race? No.

The marine relic is for the chapter master upgrade only though, so its not an entirely fair comparison.

It absolutely IS a fair comparison because the Weave has restrictions too.

Infantry. Not a massive restriction really compared to "1 specific 1 per army hq you must spend 40 points extra to access".

A relic is a relic is a relic. Can still only have one in an army.


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I will say though, the Nightbringer brings me joy. It seems like whatever he touches in combat is going to get devoured.

 Crimson wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

If you want to punch holes in tanks (my Gravis Captain is named King Bradley for a reason) you can spend some CP to give him a second Warlord Trait for so his sword is S7 and his fist is S10.

What warlord trait does that? Do you mean Imperium's Sword or is there one which gives a permanent strength boost?

Salamanders have a +2 Str warlord trait.

 MinscS2 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

If you want to punch holes in tanks (my Gravis Captain is named King Bradley for a reason) you can spend some CP to give him a second Warlord Trait for so his sword is S7 and his fist is S10.

What warlord trait does that? Do you mean Imperium's Sword or is there one which gives a permanent strength boost?

Salamanders have a +2 Str warlord trait.

That. Salamanders have a +2 Strength trait, a +2 Toughness trait, and a Strat that lets you have two traits. I don’t know how Good that is, but the idea of it amuses me so.