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They'll hopefully open up again some time next week. Expect some awesome Eloi units in the coming months!

 aphyon wrote:
Since albetorius is showing off his projects, here is a snapshot of some units i have for the Iyanden eldar army i ma building up...just waiting for vanguard to open back up to finish getting the units i need.

They look boss, hope to see more of them soon

I've finished basing the boyz:



and also finished three weirdboyz stands and three shokk attak guns:

Those are some nice looking Orks!

Very nice work on those Orks Albertorius!

Are you planning to use those with Epic 40,000?

I have a pile of the Vanguard Miniatures Orks waiting for paint, but am waiting for the Imperius Dominatus rules update for Orks to come along (hopefully should be published in the next month or so)

 Pacific wrote:
Very nice work on those Orks Albertorius!

Are you planning to use those with Epic 40,000?

I have a pile of the Vanguard Miniatures Orks waiting for paint, but am waiting for the Imperius Dominatus rules update for Orks to come along (hopefully should be published in the next month or so)

So far, yeah, the idea is using them for E:40k as is the ruleset I have and it's in my language (which is a big thing as I need to teach it)

Ah that's an important consideration! Did Armageddon ever get published in any language other than English?

I thought that NetEpic was published in other languages but may have misremembered.

Just a short update, I have been working through some units getting them ready for Imperius Dominatus rulesets. This was a simple one, adding a Land Raider (which I added a little retro flag too, kind of like the old Space Marine 2nd ed tanks ) and a couple of stands including a 'Decurion' stand. These are individual command stands (so the rules in Dominatus are different - rather than being subsumed into the unit, command stands are a separate entity). I've tried to differentiate the Decurion stands according to the unit they are leading, so I added a heavy weapons dude in with this squad.





Next am working on getting some Tactical guys up to full Tactical Company status (100 marines and 11 Rhinos!)
Still I am following some guys on social media that have already painted this many minis at 28mm scale this year, hopefully I can match that with 6mm!

Behold the war host of iyanden has risen!





the vanguard wave serpents were a bit larger than i expected but still look fantastic.

Fantastic job with those Eldar Aphyon.

Agree the Vanguard miniatures look great - very nice shade of bronze/gold too.

Are you going to be adding anything else to the force?

Not really anything new per say, i am waiting to see if they release some eldar planes for Aeronautica Imperialis. because the old epic ones are so out of scale (small).

Otherwise i think i have pretty well covered all the armies i wanted to do....it isn't like i don't already have enough gaming minis for all the different games i play. my focus now is more on terrain for making great looking tables.

I don't suppose you have a Squat force Aphyon? If so what army list are you using for it?

I have been looking at some of the new Onslaught Miniatures for their 'Grudd' range and they just look so cool. Was thinking of getting a basic force of them to represent a race of abhumans encountered during the Great Crusade, thought would be quite interesting to do (complete with some space dwarf-type themed terrain of mining colonies and the like)

Nope, not in epic scale. you have to go all the way back to what 2nd ed to get the base rules for squats?

IIRC they were kind of a cross between marines and guard.-tougher and better equiped than humans but not quite as good as marines. as a joke i made a normal scale small squat primaris(cuz we all know the only way for Cawl to make marines better was to make them dwarves ) force for 8th ed 40K using the mantic forge father minis on secret weapon runic bases.

I even made a kitbash fantasy dwarf gyro copter/bomber into a jetbike for my techmarine on a bike with beamer.

 Pacific wrote:
I don't suppose you have a Squat force Aphyon? If so what army list are you using for it?

I have been looking at some of the new Onslaught Miniatures for their 'Grudd' range and they just look so cool. Was thinking of getting a basic force of them to represent a race of abhumans encountered during the Great Crusade, thought would be quite interesting to do (complete with some space dwarf-type themed terrain of mining colonies and the like)

NETepic has a squat army list for 2nd ed. I believe they've also got an unofficial squat list for EA as well.

Thanks Hellebore - I have now found a few lists of EA, a 'Thurgrim (Thungrim?) tournament list. It's nice but not sure if it's got a bit too much focus on tournament activity - I know the guys that do those are razor sharp with power levels and balance for the tournaments so that was probably the priority.
Thanks I will have a look at the NetEpic list and see if that contains some more characterful options.

Just updated the thread title a bit.
Seen a lot of people hesitant to post regular epic here.

Since there’s no real one going anyway, it would be good to have it all here so everyone can see it.
There’s plenty of inspiration that can pass over between the 2.

Nothing to show at the moment, but just procured Armies of the The Imperium alongside Ork & Squat Warlords from eBay.

Paid around £90 for the pair, as they’re both complete and in good nick. This is important, as I’ll be needing the unit cards!

Don’t speak of original unit cards.

Found my tyranids ones after months of searching.
Seems the pipe work in the garage had a leak.
Had 2 perfect sets and both are destroyed.
Need to hunt some down on eBay again.

Ouch!

Hive War is definitely one of the pricier ones to obtain from what I’ve seen. Likely due to it being quite a late release, and as a result of limited shelf life.

Never had it, nor any of the associated models as a kid. But was always intrigued by the Hive Synpase web thing rules for army selection.

I’m now wondering if whatever remains of my old Epic stuff is still in Dad’s attic?

Still got lots to go.
Also waiting on another 80mm base to arrive for the second big guy.

The old hive mind rules were pretty decent to be fair.
The only rules I hated were for spore deployment.

Very nice work Jackal90, they look great!
Looks like you are doing a good job there of going for a full Tyranid swarm.

Jackal90 wrote:Don’t speak of original unit cards.

Found my tyranids ones after months of searching.
Seems the pipe work in the garage had a leak.
Had 2 perfect sets and both are destroyed.
Need to hunt some down on eBay again.

Ouch.. Is any restoration work possible or are they all too far gone?
The worst loss of that nature (nature being the operative word here) was when my cat had pulled my titan data-sheets off my bookshelf, pooped on one, put the other sheet on top of it and mashed it together. It was a magnificent act of vandalism and no restoration possible there

Jackal90 wrote:Just updated the thread title a bit.
Seen a lot of people hesitant to post regular epic here.

Since there’s no real one going anyway, it would be good to have it all here so everyone can see it.
There’s plenty of inspiration that can pass over between the 2.

Great idea and I agree, it makes sense to have everything in the one thread.



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I have finally finished a full Tactical Company - this is 100 marines total: Command Centurion + 2 Veteran squads (these are missing from the photo). then 3 detachments of 1 Decurion, 1 special weapons squad and 20 tactical marines. Meant to be 11 Rhinos in total but one missing from the photo



This is the Command stand, as well as the banner bearer the other guy at the back is an Apothecary (even has the little narthicarium arm tool thing), I really love the Vanguard miniatures they have got so much detail.



Close-up of a Decurion squad. These guys are veteran/squad leader equivalents, I guess it would be fairly easy to use for Epic Armageddon or NetEpic/Space Marine too.

It looks as if it had been leaking for a good few weeks, so it really is too far gone to save.
On the flip side, I always scan in old books when I get them, so I do have a digital copy.
Just not really the same as having an old piece of history in your hands.

Currently waiting to get some more priming done.
My spray area is almost constantly full at the moment as I’m trying to push my way through a few armies.
Hopefully start adding more to the swarm this weekend now.

Do however need to invest in some smaller bugs.
I’ve got a few but they are 2nd edition looks wise, so they do look odd near the newer stuff.

Chaos & Eldar Renegades procured for £40.00

I’d genuinely intended to leave that one until next month. But again found a complete, boxed copy, which don’t come up terribly often, spesh with all the counters and markers (Eldar Doom Weavers in particular have bespoke templates).

That leaves just Hive War (expensive) and the core box (potentially v expensive if it’s completely complete) to go.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Chaos & Eldar Renegades procured for £40.00

I’d genuinely intended to leave that one until next month. But again found a complete, boxed copy, which don’t come up terribly often, spesh with all the counters and markers (Eldar Doom Weavers in particular have bespoke templates).

That leaves just Hive War (expensive) and the core box (potentially v expensive if it’s completely complete) to go.

Nice work. I was turned off by the unit cards. the Netepic rules made it easier to engage with the 2nd ed rules

IT BEGIIIIIINS!!!

Very much enjoying the Warlords book, as I never had it as a nipper.

Very nice!

Those boxes look like they are in good nick too.

Have you decided what force you are going to collect first or going to have a read through the books beforehand?

Honestly no idea. But a friend has a load of Squats he’s getting rid of for free, so will be having that.

I’ve got the warlords book sat here.
Dug it out while sorting stuff to move.

Really do love the old artwork.
Shame squats didn’t get continued as they could have looked amazing with current sculpting.

Building a space marine army for various games even though I've never played epic before. Hoping to get taught at my local gaming club after lockdown.

Awesome stuff Rocinante and welcome to the club!

I love your breacher marines, I may have to copy your idea of the dead guys in the squad there..

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Honestly no idea. But a friend has a load of Squats he’s getting rid of for free, so will be having that.

Free is always a good start! I love the war engines with the Squats in Epic, always think that was something that was missed in 28mm scale like Jackal90 says it would have been interesting to see what could have been done with modern GW and the massive plastic kits.

From memory they were a good army in Space Marine although surprisingly not as durable as you would think; things like the Cyclops could get taken out in 1 shot once their void shields were gone (particularly vulnerable to the Gargant belly gun which goes straight through them). So you had to use their long range and try and keep stuff at arms length, while sending in screening melee units (bikes/trikes etc.) to try and hold up assault units that were coming in to get you.

Yeah. Going over their rules, their big stuff have a fair amount of one-shot weapons (Missiles, Rad Bomb etc).

Strikes me as quite alpha strikey, as taking out a chunk of your opponent’s army gives double advantage (less stuff to kill you with, secured VPs).

Something that has always stuck out for me is that background wise, Squats really weren’t terribly well developed compared to other races. Makes them feel doomed from the get go, as the writers didn’t seem to have a huge amount of enthusiasm for them.

Yeah it definitely feels that way. If you think that Ork and Squat Warlords was probably the most background that ever got written about them (as they didn't really get anything in 2nd edition 40k other than a token mention) and then that was it! I know there was that interview with Jervis Johnson where he said that the 2nd edition Squat codex kept getting put on the backburner but that no-one had enthusiasm for it, and then they were allowed to slide into oblivion. He actually said that he loved the Epic representation of them with the war engines though and they had a lot more of an identity in that game than they ever did in 40k.

Have just been listening to the Crown of Command podcast who are incidentally covering Ork and Squat Warlords at the moment. Just done about 2 hours talking about the Ork side of the codex and I have to say it has really made me want to do Orks in Space Marine or NetEpic again - there is just so much character and it really makes the Armageddon rules, which I had been using, seem so stale by comparison. I know tournament, balance yadda-yadda but there are just so many examples in the rules of weapons firing around randomly, madboys, mechboy gadgets, weirdboy towers being either utterly deadly or blowing themselves up. And all of the clans having their own identity (they revert to type if they aren't commanded: evil sunz go racing about, Goffs try and charge the enemy etc.) it just looks like the most 'orky' set of rules and so much fun to play. So think I have got a copy of Ork and Squat Warlords in storage somewhere but if not will get the NetEpic rules, which I think are pretty much identical in all the ways that matter.