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2020/09/11 13:24:45
Subject: 40Emperor news - Alternative Guard Models
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Would you field this bad girl!!!?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2020/10/06 07:23:46
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2020/09/11 14:01:11
Subject: Would you field her?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nope.
But that's *entirely* because she doesn't fit into the aesthetics of any of my IG armies.
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2020/09/11 14:15:46
Subject: Would you field her?
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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I mean, if I owned one I imagine I'd use it. Looks like it could make for a reasonable Catachan officer.
However, I'm afraid it's not the sort of model I'd go out and buy specially.
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
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2020/09/11 14:17:01
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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What's with the baggy pants and one kneepad?
I'd pass. Besides the last thing I need is more laspistol and chainsword guardsmen. Give me a decent plastic plasmagunner not in the command squad box anyday.
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2020/09/11 14:20:49
Subject: Would you field her?
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Preacher of the Emperor
Hanford, CA, AKA The Eye of Terror
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SHe's a little rough and tumble for my Valhallans but I do love the armor design, especially in the shoulders!
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17,000 points (Valhallan)
10,000 points
6,000 points (Order of Our Martyred Lady)
Proud Countess of House Terryn hosting 7 Knights, 2 Dominus Knights, and 8 Armigers
Stormcast Eternals: 7,000 points
"Remember, Orks are weak and cowardly, they are easily beat in close combat and their tusks, while menacing, can easily be pulled out with a sharp tug"
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2020/09/11 14:38:56
Subject: Would you field her?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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IDK, but I would suggest this thread get moved, since it's clearly just promoting a model, and not about 40k.
I think it's a decent model, but I don't really understand why the knee pad isn't on the knee.
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2020/09/11 14:44:55
Subject: Would you field her?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Watch Fortress Excalibris
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40Emperor wrote:Would you field this bad girl!!!?
Yes. Assuming she is priced sensibly (including P&P).
AdmiralHalsey wrote:What's with the baggy pants and one kneepad?
I think she's intended to fit with the Tallarn aesthetic. Hence the keffiyeh and the vaguely Arabic/Persian name.
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A little bit of righteous anger now and then is good, actually. Don't trust a person who never gets angry. |
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2020/09/11 14:51:38
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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No fan of that hanging kneepad, looks inpractical. Tighten that up and maybe.
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Brutal, but kunning! |
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2020/09/11 17:51:01
Subject: Would you field her?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Omaha, NE
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Looks like a vetran/vet sgt to me. not very officery....
would use just not as an officer.
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Have played 40k since they were called the Imperial Army. 6k IG 10k Nids 2k GSC |
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2020/09/12 02:34:10
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Upper torso and head look great, lower half is a mess. Hard pass from me. Also, if she is a higher officer, give her a plasma pistol
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2020/09/12 03:09:58
Subject: Would you field her?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Looks like she’d welcome me to a themed restaurant, so yes. I would like some Catachan Hot Wings.
Although the way the title is phrased demands a reference to Goodbye Horses.
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2020/09/12 04:45:59
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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"Would you field her?"
Well, i must admit i've never heard it called that before.
Ok, i agree with what most of my brothers here have been saying, the upper half is great, the lower half not so much. Is that a loincloth? Over pants? Well, Ok, 40k so maybe some fools wear a loincloth over pants because it's 'turdishun" and if you don't you're a "hairy tick". So I could let a loincloth over pants go except it looks like the loincloth is melting into the pants if that is what it is. I like the boots and knee pad both are detailed and good.
EDIT: OK, it's jsut some creasing in the pants that seem a little too...extreme. smoothen it out a little please.
If I ran an army of the many, the nameless, the disposable yes i might get this figure if she didn't cost more in total than a gw figure and if she had arm options. I'd buy her even if she was the same cost as a gw fig just to let gw know do we have options.
I'd recommend a bolt and plasma pistol option and a powersword option, possibly a powerfist. at least one head, with ornate hat or helmet, would be good.
Also, even with the loincloth(?) issue i think at several feet away and when she's 28mm tall it's not an issue. On my screen she's like 6" and i'm like a foot tall so it really shows.
All in all good job, I even liked the bionic arm.
One thing: How did an apparently human skull get embedded in what is apparently a solid rock? Teleporter accident?
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2020/09/12 05:16:55
Subject: Would you field her?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Duskweaver wrote:40Emperor wrote:Would you field this bad girl!!!?
Yes. Assuming she is priced sensibly (including P&P).
AdmiralHalsey wrote:What's with the baggy pants and one kneepad?
I think she's intended to fit with the Tallarn aesthetic. Hence the keffiyeh and the vaguely Arabic/Persian name.
Kind of? Looks like an odd Tallarn/Cadian/Catachan hybrid outfit.
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2020/09/12 05:42:09
Subject: Would you field her?
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
Oakland, CA
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First - love the concept of your company - 40K desperately needs good female miniatures.
Second - the above example is a strong start, but as others have pointed out, could use a little polish before prime time.
Tighten up the lower half of the mini, and I'd certainly purchase it.
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2020/09/12 06:39:37
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I generally like the look and personally don't mind the "pants". Only small thing would be the kneecap as others said it should be a bit higher.
Would I field her, if I had her? Definitly yes.
Would I buy her as separate mini: to be honest, only if she is cheap
Would I buy her as sergant in a box of similar styled infantry: then yes.
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819 build and painted
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2020/09/12 06:43:58
Subject: Would you field her?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Very unlikely.
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2020/09/12 16:35:59
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Interesting model. I have to echo the other critics on the issues with the model. The biggest being that the model is labeled 3-Star General but looks like a fancy Sergeant. Nothing about the model says Officer of any sort.
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2020/09/12 17:02:06
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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alextroy wrote:Interesting model. I have to echo the other critics on the issues with the model. The biggest being that the model is labeled 3-Star General but looks like a fancy Sergeant. Nothing about the model says Officer of any sort.
Ok, ghawd forbid I bring up 'realism" in 40k, but to play amanojaku here and do just that, in most real militarys officers do not wear distinctive uniforms that make them obvious targets for snipers. Also, saluting an officer in the field is usually not done as it marks the officer as a target to snipers. (in fact in vietnam incompetent and unpopular officers were often saluted, sometimes behind their backs, in the field because the soldiers under them hoped a sniper would pick him off.
Now I know in 40k leaders wear huge distinctive outfits and marks of rank that basically are giant neon ' SHOOT ME!!" signs to snipers and marksmen, mostly, because 'It's the rool of cule!" Ironically the alpha legion is the one outfit in 40k I can think of off the top of my head than eschews such foolishness, in the background it even says that newbies are often forced to wear prominent uniforms to distract enemy attention from the real leaders who wear armor looking similar to the standard trooper.
So, while i had problems with the pants I do not have a problem with her not parading about in an ostentatious sniper magnet uniform. In fact I commend the designer for this simple logical choice.
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"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..." |
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2020/09/12 20:57:33
Subject: Would you field her?
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Plaguebearer with a Flu
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If the price and p&p were reasonable? Yes,
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2020/09/12 21:15:58
Subject: Would you field her?
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Dakka Veteran
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No, I don't think so.
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*Top half looks good. Could probably fit with several regiments.
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*Bottom half is a mess with the baggy "pants" and weirdly positioned (one?) knee-pad.
*Her weaponry is pretty... lame. A Chainsword and Laspistol...yay? Give her something to make her stand out, right now she just looks like a regular sergeant and not like any higher officer.
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2020/09/12 22:02:10
Subject: Would you field her?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Yes I would. She looks BADASS.
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2020/09/12 23:35:51
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Matt Swain wrote: alextroy wrote:Interesting model. I have to echo the other critics on the issues with the model. The biggest being that the model is labeled 3-Star General but looks like a fancy Sergeant. Nothing about the model says Officer of any sort.
Ok, ghawd forbid I bring up 'realism" in 40k, but to play amanojaku here and do just that, in most real militarys officers do not wear distinctive uniforms that make them obvious targets for snipers. Also, saluting an officer in the field is usually not done as it marks the officer as a target to snipers. (in fact in vietnam incompetent and unpopular officers were often saluted, sometimes behind their backs, in the field because the soldiers under them hoped a sniper would pick him off.
Now I know in 40k leaders wear huge distinctive outfits and marks of rank that basically are giant neon ' SHOOT ME!!" signs to snipers and marksmen, mostly, because 'It's the rool of cule!" Ironically the alpha legion is the one outfit in 40k I can think of off the top of my head than eschews such foolishness, in the background it even says that newbies are often forced to wear prominent uniforms to distract enemy attention from the real leaders who wear armor looking similar to the standard trooper.
So, while i had problems with the pants I do not have a problem with her not parading about in an ostentatious sniper magnet uniform. In fact I commend the designer for this simple logical choice.
In the dark future of the 41st Millennium, there is the Galactic code to uphold. It clearly states in Section 2.3 that all leaders and specialist must be clearly distinguishable from line troops. This can be due to size, species, equipment, or fancy decorative elements.
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2020/09/12 23:51:50
Subject: Would you field her?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Looks decent.
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2020/09/13 00:07:39
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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First off; solid clickbait thread title, credit for that.
To answer the question; no, I would not. I don't play Guard.
What do I think about the quality of the miniature? Well by the thread title that would be a bit off topic, wouldn't it?
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2020/09/13 10:23:14
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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It's a bit rough around the edges, but for my tastes it has loads of character. I also like the pants, maybe not the most combat sensible but it's something I haven't seen before. I wouldn't make an army out of models like this but one or two to protect an inquisitor could be nice.
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2020/09/13 12:02:23
Subject: Re:Would you field her?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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AdmiralHalsey wrote:What's with the baggy pants and one kneepad?
I'd pass. Besides the last thing I need is more laspistol and chainsword guardsmen. Give me a decent plastic plasmagunner not in the command squad box anyday.
I'm not really digging the aesthetic of the figure, and the placement of the pad is odd. But single kneepads are fairly common in the military on actual deployment. You only typically need one to 'take a knee' so don't bother with one on your standing leg. They are a bit restrictive on leg movement. This is one of the reasons why the fancy Crye trousers with in-built knee pad sections are popular among SF and SOF elements of militaries across the world as it provides good protection with no trade-off on movement restriction.
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2020/09/13 12:37:05
Subject: Would you field her?
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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No, its not very good.
If I was going to field anything like that, I would use the GW Catachan girl. Much better.
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2020/09/13 16:04:19
Subject: Would you field her?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Only if they paid me for every match/turn it’s on the table.
Like every other third party guard mini, it’s a pretty bad sculpt and doesn’t fit in any official guard range.
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2020/09/13 16:08:34
Subject: Would you field her?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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All other third party Guard are bad sculpts, hey?
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2020/09/13 17:10:18
Subject: Would you field her?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Not really, looks like any catachan model to me to be honest, doesn't stand out that much. Maybe, might if i owned a catachan army and this model doesn't cost an arm but still doubtful.
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