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Is it a road back for departed actors and/or characters? Sure it is. And it always has been in the comics.
We’ve had a handful of teases about the potential impact though.
Gamora in End Game for instance being a kind of character and relationships reset. She is Gamora - but hasn’t had the same experiences as her departed past/future version.
The various Dr Strange. None came and left a permanent existence. Permanent impact, yes. Because welcome to causality.
No Way Home? Well….kind of. Ish. If anything that serves to establish that whilst other realties in the multi-verse have a Peter Parker who is also Spider-Man, they’re absolutely not the same Peter Parker or Spider-Man. Very different lives and life experiences.
I really don’t understand why folk feel this is a bad thing? I don’t want to think ill of others, but I’m getting the impression we have people contributing to the conversation who haven’t seen the film, and are simply raising talking points from YouTube etc, and we have folk just determined to paint the films and even the whole MCU in as bad a light as possible, for reasons best known to themself.
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I think a lot of the push back for the multi-verse is mostly due to the the pigs ear the CW shows made of the concept, and with the MCU group think of what funny is means we wont get the sillyness of Legends. Loki tried and it doesnt really come off
Of course give me a 1602 show and I'll shut my yap
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
I think it is very likely that when we reach the "End Game" of this multiversal story arc, when the "stones" are well and truly gone and no longer a factor, we are going to get some multiversal characters settling into and living in the main MCU reality.
But I think thats another 10 years away. I do think it's an opportunity to recast Steve Rogers and Tony Stark and bring them back onto the screen, but as clearly different people with different experiences facing new challenges.
Think a Heroes Reborn type situation.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
I think a lot of the push back for the multi-verse is mostly due to the the pigs ear the CW shows made of the concept, and with the MCU group think of what funny is means we wont get the sillyness of Legends. Loki tried and it doesnt really come off
Of course give me a 1602 show and I'll shut my yap
I don't see much pushback beyond a few people here about the multi-verse. Mostly I've seen excitement for the varients we could see etc
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
I really don’t understand why folk feel this is a bad thing? I don’t want to think ill of others, but I’m getting the impression we have people contributing to the conversation who haven’t seen the film, and are simply raising talking points from YouTube etc, and we have folk just determined to paint the films and even the whole MCU in as bad a light as possible, for reasons best known to themself.
Have some tinfoil, make some hats.
People can't possibly hold opinions different than your own, the have to have sinister motives.
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After thinking about it for a bit I have come to the conclusion, and I'm sure you will all agree, that the best character so far in Phase 4 has been Alligator Loki.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Exciting little last second cameo too. Glad they don't look to have changed the suit too much.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I'm glad I can see the subtitle for DD, they cheered over Feige in the video I saw and I couldn't read it on the screen.
That title carries a lot of baggage with it, I hope they can do it justice, but with the recent confirmation of R rated MCU stuff, there's a solid chance.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Phase 6 is only year or so long, and is going to have F4 and two Avengers movies, and somehow fit other things in there as well? How many movies are going to be in a single year??? Somewhere along the line they need to do another Doctor Strange, another Spidey and find something for the X-Men/Mutants in general.
Either way, The Kang Dynasty is a nice start. On one hand, Kang should be an Avenger-level threat. On the other hand, look what they did with One-And-Done Ultron.
Cautiously optimistic.
Lance845 wrote: Dare Devil: Born Again is going to be 18 episodes.
Does that mean anything though? Whilst they have differing episode counts, all the D+ MCU shows have been roughly the same length, and equal parts too short and not long enough.
Is the new DD just going to be the same length, but cut into (somehow) even shorter episodes?
D+ shows - not just Marvel; Star Wars has the same problem - need to get their act together. They need to be longer, have fuller stories that don't feel like acts of a movie script sliced into episodes, and in some cases actually have stories.
Length of phases: There are more hours of content in phase 4 then most of the first 3 phases combined. With that trend continuing we will likely see phases be "longer" but take less time to release.
DD Epsiode length: Who knows? But even if they were on the shorter side (20 min each) that still means DD is 6 hours long.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
I suspect the 'what is that' refers to the yellow pulse above Winter 2024. The big otherwise empty spot between FF and Kang.
It could just be visual garbage (theres a similar spot behind GotG3 on the other screen), but it certainly looks like there should be something there- otherwise there's so little crap to phase 6 that FF should be part of 5 and they should wait to announce the two Avengers things until they have more stuff to announce.
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Don't forget Disney still has another big preview coming up at their D23 Expo on September 9-11.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
It could just be visual garbage (theres a similar spot behind GotG3 on the other screen), but it certainly looks like there should be something there- otherwise there's so little crap to phase 6 that FF should be part of 5 and they should wait to announce the two Avengers things until they have more stuff to announce.
I suspect that Disney knows how to assign their projects to wich phases & how to advertise them better than you do....
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It could just be visual garbage (theres a similar spot behind GotG3 on the other screen), but it certainly looks like there should be something there- otherwise there's so little crap to phase 6 that FF should be part of 5 and they should wait to announce the two Avengers things until they have more stuff to announce.
I suspect that Disney knows how to assign their projects to wich phases & how to advertise them better than you do....
Sure? Someone wanted to know what the splodge was. And going by all the hooting and hollering in the video, their audience is totally excited.
But as a visual display, the 'phase 6' backdrop is mostly blank, with another 2024 movie and two unrelated 2025 ones (barring no slowdowns from another strike, general world conditions, or the VFX artists they're completely dependent on just giving a 'feth you' notice). So I'm not shocked that someone wanted to know what was going on.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
Since the FF are being brought in and Namor is in Wakanda Forever I'm going to guess the movie in that spot it is a Rom Com featuring Sue Storm and Namor.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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