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Part of the problem with the Resi films is just that when they were released the games were a lot more restrained and the films felt like generic Matrix knock off action of the time rather than anything that felt like Resident Evil. They're fun movies, but don't feel particularly authentic or capture what made the franchise feel unique at the time.

Comic movies had a whole era of trying to remove what makes people love comic books to make them palatable for a wider audience but didn't really explode until they learned to translate it and the technology made it possible. Videogames have generally been in the same spot and it will be interesting to see how long it takes them to learn the same lessons. Mario seemed to get it, but Sonic has been determined to anchor itself around weird human subplots that show a lack of confidence in the source material.
   
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For me Blade is still a standout comic movie. But in retrospect was they nailed the set piece sequences and that's all you remember...
   
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Blade is great. I think what makes it so hard to categorize is that its both something of a trend setter but a chaser at the same time. The character was just a really good fit for the style of the era with a comic book character who doesn't really have much in the way of comic book elements to adapt. It feels like it could be an original property rather than an adaptation of existing material.
   
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Before the movie remember this is what Blade looked like:


Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
 
   
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He had spikey black leather at least by the Spider-Man cartoon, but it was pretty similar to Ghost Rider.

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 Ahtman wrote:
Before the movie remember this is what Blade looked like:

Spoiler:

Blade's first appearance was in 1973, so the Richard Roundtree/Shaft appearance is appropriate for the time.

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 Geifer wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
One of She-Hulk's powers is literally breaking the fourth wall. It is as much a part of the character as it is for Deadpool (but maybe not as snarky as he is).


I like She-Hulk for the most part, but the end was just too much for me. Talking to the audience on a meta level is one thing, but stepping out of the show's reality into the real life production facilities is a whole different story. Maybe that's fine for people who are into the comics. I wouldn't know. But I very much doubt that the general audience is into that kind of stuff.


YMMV and thats fair.

But...





her leaving her medium and addressing the creators has a lot of precedent. She-Hulk show true to the source material did exactly what it should do.


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 Ghaz wrote:
 Ahtman wrote:
Before the movie remember this is what Blade looked like:

Spoiler:

Blade's first appearance was in 1973, so the Richard Roundtree/Shaft appearance is appropriate for the time.


It is always nice to know how things grew and changed and, believe it or not, not everyone knows the comic book character.

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 Lance845 wrote:
She-Hulk show true to the source material did exactly what it should do.
That doesn't mean the show was any good.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
She-Hulk show true to the source material did exactly what it should do.
That doesn't mean the show was any good.


Which again, a thing I said in the post you quoted, YMMV. But I enjoyed She Hulk. I thought it was a lot of fun. I also thought how it managed to use comedy while putting her through the stages of grief was well done. You don't have to like it. But it was well put together and bought the character to the screen.


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Since She-Hulk directly made fun of Marvel fans, I can see why a lot o them did not like it.

As a filthy casual, I found it amusing how Meta and de-constructive it was; but all that said I would be stretching to call it "good". It was clever, but I would say ultimately a failure even though it was pretty impressive.

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I really enjoyed it. Outside of Loki and Wandavision it was my favorite D+ fare.

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 Easy E wrote:
Since She-Hulk directly made fun of Marvel fans, I can see why a lot o them did not like it.
No it strawmanned a villain out of nothing, and poisoned the well right until the very end. The entire show was built around fanbaiting rather than telling a good story, being a good legal show, or being a funny comedy.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Since She-Hulk directly made fun of Marvel fans, I can see why a lot o them did not like it.
No it strawmanned a villain out of nothing, and poisoned the well right until the very end. The entire show was built around fanbaiting rather than telling a good story, being a good legal show, or being a funny comedy.



It's okay I thought it was OK with some clever meta commentary, and you did not like it and thought that same meta-commentary was stupid and offensive.

I encourage others to judge for themselves if they want to spend the time. No big deal to me if they watch it or they don't.

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I enjoyed it, but didn’t love it. Many of the guest characters were more interesting than She Hulk, and especially Wongers and Madisynn overshadowed her. The last episode was an ambitious failure in my opinion, but I’m strangely drawn to those.

   
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I mean its pretty awful when Harvey birdman was a better legal show and comedy...
   
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The_Real_Chris wrote:
I mean its pretty awful when Harvey birdman was a better legal show and comedy...


Not really. Most shows fail to live up to Harvey Birdman.
   
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My favorite Marvel villain has always been "The Porcupine". He was a punchline when I was a younger person.

To see him on-screen..... magic.

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I enjoyed it, but didn’t love it. Many of the guest characters were more interesting than She Hulk, and especially Wongers and Madisynn overshadowed her. The last episode was an ambitious failure in my opinion, but I’m strangely drawn to those.


The finale for me was an MCU “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” finale.

Not everyone will get it.

Others will get it, and not find it funny.

Others yet will find it hilarious.

I’m very much in the third camp, but understand the other two.

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I loathe the ending of MP and the Holy Grail.

   
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I’m a firm fan of proper absurdist comedy.

No, not you The Mighty Boosh. You can sod off.

Stuff like Monty Python or Reeves and Mortimer, where their main concern is making each other laugh, and if a given audience doesn’t follow, so be it.

To create comedic art with an abject disregard for critics.

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What makes me question the end of She-Hulk is that there isn't much of a tradition for that in movies and TV. You say Monty Python. I think I can throw in Looney Tunes. But who else tears down the fictional reality like that? I'm sure there are more examples, but in my opinion it's not something that happens with enough frequency to affect viewer expectations. Me, I'd place it more firmly in theater where stepping outside the bounds of the narrative to talk to the audience has more appeal and potential payoff because there is an actual audience to interact with.

Which is to say of course you can do it, and if you're Monty Python your audience may have been exposed to enough oddball stuff to not be thrown off by it. Similarly, for the portion that knows Marvel comics, it may not be a big deal for She-Hulk to end the way it does. Probably appreciate if for being true to the comics, too. It's just that you have a part of the audience for whom it goes entirely against expectations and conventions of the medium. It strikes me as a risk to go all out on something that has a significant chance of failing in the eyes of a significant part of the audience, You may call it art, but the true art to art is selling it to the audience.

Like I said, it didn't work for me. That's just my reaction. To each their own and all that. But if I were to be catered to, I'd rather be eased into She-Hulk's reality-altering power instead of getting jumped by it at the last minute. I don't think there was any build up to that at all. There's a reason why deus ex machina is such a tough sell. She-Hulk is barely any better. She retains the ability to influence the outcome, but does so by means dropped at a moment's notice on the unsuspecting part of the audience. That doesn't strike me as particularly well crafted, even if the ability to completely step outside the narrative agreed with me.

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Hulk Hogan forcing the Gremlins to turn the movie back on? Duck Amuck also springs to mind, though almost anything pales in comparison to that masterpiece.

To me it worked specifically because of the way it used the Disney+ app to facilitate the 4th wall break. That all really worked for me, though once they set the new finale in motion I wouldn't say it was as satisfying as the actual 4th wall reveal.

I enjoyed the show for what it was, but its not like the She Hulk comics are a top tier franchise either. They're funny and clever but they've never been so funny and clever as to be wildly popular. I'd definitely like to see more one and done courtroom drama episodes next time around, as this kind of story just isn't super well suited to an overarching plot.
   
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Now I like Loki. In fact, Loki is the only MCU D+ series I like*, but this video is spot on with its criticisms...




*I liked Wandavision until that execrable final episode.


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I actually just watched Loki season 2 over the past few days, and I enjoyed it but not as much as the first season. And I don't entirely know why but when the timelines were coming apart everything turning into strings was actually bothering me the same way some people are bothered by clusters of little holes. *shudder*

As for which MCU series was my favorite, I'd have to say Moon Knight, in spite of the near total lack of tie-ins to the wider MCU. Oscar Isaac was awesome, and the story was fun. I'm hoping we get at least one more season, but from what I've heard they aren't even working on one currently.

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Not long after s1 there was something about Oscar Issac and the director being back in Egypt and one of them said something along the lines of s2. Why else would we be here?

Now... That may now be reworked into a movie. Or they may be early in script writing/pitches still. But my understanding is they are working on it. Just early in preproduction.

I really want to see the black underarmor suit for Jake.


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Marvel Studios Announces EYES OF WAKANDA Animated Series For 2024; SPIDER-MAN: FRESHMAN YEAR Gets Retitled - ComicBookMovie.com

Marvel Studios just concluded a special preview event for the release of What If...? season 2 and also confirmed a surprise animation project is on the way.

Attendees were treated to the first 2 episodes of the new What If...? season.

After the screening, an animated Black Panther series titled Eyes of Wakanda was revealed and confirmed to be released on Disney+ in 2024.

It was also revealed that Spider-Man: Freshman Year has been retitled Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. It will also be released in 2024, along with X-Men 97'. At SDCC 2022, it was announced that a second season of Freshman Year, aptly titled Spider-Man: Sophomore Year was also in development.

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 ZergSmasher wrote:
I actually just watched Loki season 2 over the past few days, and I enjoyed it but not as much as the first season. And I don't entirely know why but when the timelines were coming apart everything turning into strings was actually bothering me the same way some people are bothered by clusters of little holes. *shudder*

As for which MCU series was my favorite, I'd have to say Moon Knight, in spite of the near total lack of tie-ins to the wider MCU. Oscar Isaac was awesome, and the story was fun. I'm hoping we get at least one more season, but from what I've heard they aren't even working on one currently.


I loved the way it would skip fights. Honestly at this point if I never see another MCU fist fight every again I would be happy.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
What makes me question the end of She-Hulk is that there isn't much of a tradition for that in movies and TV. You say Monty Python. I think I can throw in Looney Tunes. But who else tears down the fictional reality like that? I'm sure there are more examples, but in my opinion it's not something that happens with enough frequency to affect viewer expectations. Me, I'd place it more firmly in theater where stepping outside the bounds of the narrative to talk to the audience has more appeal and potential payoff because there is an actual audience to interact with.

Which is to say of course you can do it, and if you're Monty Python your audience may have been exposed to enough oddball stuff to not be thrown off by it. Similarly, for the portion that knows Marvel comics, it may not be a big deal for She-Hulk to end the way it does. Probably appreciate if for being true to the comics, too. It's just that you have a part of the audience for whom it goes entirely against expectations and conventions of the medium. It strikes me as a risk to go all out on something that has a significant chance of failing in the eyes of a significant part of the audience, You may call it art, but the true art to art is selling it to the audience.

Like I said, it didn't work for me. That's just my reaction. To each their own and all that. But if I were to be catered to, I'd rather be eased into She-Hulk's reality-altering power instead of getting jumped by it at the last minute. I don't think there was any build up to that at all. There's a reason why deus ex machina is such a tough sell. She-Hulk is barely any better. She retains the ability to influence the outcome, but does so by means dropped at a moment's notice on the unsuspecting part of the audience. That doesn't strike me as particularly well crafted, even if the ability to completely step outside the narrative agreed with me.


4th wall breaks? Outside Monty Python and Looney Tunes, there's Deadpool obviously, and Mel Brooks has a habit of them as well. And that's the thing. 4th wallbreaks work in some types of comedy, and I guess Deadpool because he's nuts even if the story can be more or less serious. I don't think it works for She-Hulk. Not for me anyway.
   
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Jonathan Majors: Marvel actor guilty of assaulting girlfriend https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67727425

I suppose we can expect an announcement from Disney/Marvel about the recasting of Kang or a change of direction for the MCU in the near future.
   
 
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