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Cronch wrote:
Why the hell are you defending a corporation, they have lawyers and community team for that.

I don't think an explanation, especially one that accuses the corporation of using stuff like psychological tricks, can really be called defending

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Why the hell are you defending a corporation, they have lawyers and community team for that.

I don't think an explanation, especially one that accuses the corporation of using stuff like psychological tricks, can really be called defending

Going to have to agree with Blackfang on this one. It seemed to me like a pretty reasonable explanation, and definitely wasn’t flattering (not to say it isn’t correct though). I think it would be hard to find a lot of people that think the GW model is good, regardless of whether or not they like their products.

£125 isn't too bad with discount retailers, but I may hold off on the box for a while as I don't want a repeat of Blackstone Fortress where I got the base game and couldn't get the expansions when I finally could afford to do so.

I am itching to paint some of these minis though, so picking up the odd model on eBay seems fine.

Cronch wrote:
Why the hell are you defending a corporation, they have lawyers and community team for that.

To me that didn't read as a defence of GW, more as speculation about GW's thinking. Sarouan just shrugs their shoulders about GW's behaviour, 'it is what it is', and it should be accepted because it is reality.

This of course leaves out everybody who'd really like to get their hands on overpriced GW products but cannot justify the expense, for whatever reason. Sure there's more important stuff in life, but that does not invalidate criticism of GW's prices or a discussion of where the focus of a miniature boardgame should be (models, rules, story).

Me? I'm getting Cursed City, from an independent retailer. I like Warhammer Quest for old time's sake (own the original with expansions) and I like most of the models. So maybe I am a whale, but a small one - a porpoise?

The limited release stock is an interesting twist. Just six months ago my local store was flush with copies of Blood Bowl 2nd Season, now they're getting just a handful of Cursed City boxes? I wonder just what percentage of copies they are retaining for themselves, and how much money one will be able to flip it on eBay for. That might be a helpful way to make it more affordable for people, just sell the first one you get for 150% of what you paid, then buy the second one effectively half off.

Understanding is half the battle !

I aknowledge I'm a GW fanboy and I happily throw my money at their face on a regular basis. I like their miniatures, can't help it. Their games too, my soul be damned ! So I know I'm certainly part of their target market. Doesn't mean I like it when they use FOMO nor sell it at a high price but well...I can understand why they're doing it.

Simply put, it just works. I'm even stupid enough to play a mobile game with microtransactions and fell into them as well. Spending money for a virtual gambling loot box, could you just imagine the madness ? Yet it works. Psychological tricks are damn efficient.

I'm weak, I know, but indeed, that's how it is. Things can change, sure, but I'm too old to change myself alas...maybe there's still hope for you, young ones.


That apart, I still like Cursed City as far as they showed the rules. BSF is indeed not the game of the year, but it was doing a good job for the atmosphere and the campaign. Since I always had difficulties to immerse myself in a SF dungeon crawler (I'm maybe old school, it always felt weird to me to do a "dungeon like" adventure when you have weapons like laser guns and scanners), I'm more than happy to try the experience in a good old fantasy setting.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/30/see-just-how-deadly-jelsen-darrocks-massive-gun-is-in-cursed-city/

Did anybody notice? Jelsen is ‚large‘, Ulfenwatch are ‚small‘. But they look about the same size. That is kind of strange...

TheGoodGerman wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/30/see-just-how-deadly-jelsen-darrocks-massive-gun-is-in-cursed-city/

Did anybody notice? Jelsen is ‚large‘, Ulfenwatch are ‚small‘. But they look about the same size. That is kind of strange...

If it's like BSF, which it's almost guaranteed to be, then this only really defines how many miniatures can go in or move through each hex. 3 Small, 2 Large, 1 Huge, or similar. You could only move through a hex that wasn't "full"

I'm pretty sure that was the only game impact, so it lets Skeletons "swarm" a bit, especially when there's 3 or 4 hexes full of them, but the Heroes and Large "Baddies" are more limited.

Rik

So limited numbers and expected high end price, no surprises there.

The majority of people will probably buy one after the 1st wave is sold out after the first 5 seconds.

Value is relative, even if your just a painter theres plenty of painting hours in this box set, if your a gamer the game lasts for how long you want it to and if your both even better.

I do understand that once the £100 barrier is crossed you start to think more carefully and compare with similar products but Im going to be honest here the biggest competition to this box set is going to be the vampire release IMO not other companies boardgames.

Personally speaking cannot justify another box now when I have thousands of minis unpainted closed in other sets. Will wait for 2nd waves and vampires releases and then make a call this summer if its a pass or must have.

I guess that makes sense, When I read it I just assumed it was similar to d&d where you can't really grapple things more than 1 size larger than you and they simply "sized up" all the heroes so they wouldn't get bogged down by chaff enemies.

I never played BSF though so I don't even know if grappling is a mechanic in the game.

I wonder who the character on the right is? She looks like one of the vampires, but her hair isn't twice the size of her body

We've seen that model previewed before. In fact, in that very same article

Rihgu wrote:
We've seen that model previewed before. In fact, in that very same article

It was a joke

 Sabotage! wrote:
To be fair Blackstone Fortress wasn’t a terrible game, though it was hardly remarkable.

It was a better-designed game than Warhammer 40K 9th ed. at least.

 GaroRobe wrote:


I wonder who the character on the right is? She looks like one of the vampires, but her hair isn't twice the size of her body

OMG, 80s/90s Saturday Morning Cartoon group-pose alert!

 GaroRobe wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
We've seen that model previewed before. In fact, in that very same article

It was a joke

oh, oops! Didn't quite catch that, sorry.

That artwork doesn't do the miniatures justice.

I just realized I posted an Underworlds picture in the Cursed City forum like an idiot. Oops

Dw, it made a nice change from the price grump / price white knighting loop. I say this as a proud price grump myself. It's still nice to mix it up a bit

Hey, its cool. Its vamps hanging out...nothing wrong with sharing that.

Man, I wish the hair didn't look so stupid on half of those models.

whats going on with girls left arm/hand

 Mr Morden wrote:
whats going on with girls left arm/hand

Its obscured by the big tusks on the mace guy's shoulder armor. They're a bit too 'impressionist' in the artwork, but clear on the model.

Damn, this game is beautiful. Almost makes me want to lift my Games Workshop ban on purchases.

Voss wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
whats going on with girls left arm/hand

Its obscured by the big tusks on the mace guy's shoulder armor. They're a bit too 'impressionist' in the artwork, but clear on the model.

Ah right - i thought it was a tenticle arm!

Models are good - they are have their fighting faces on

SamusDrake wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:


I wonder who the character on the right is? She looks like one of the vampires, but her hair isn't twice the size of her body

OMG, 80s/90s Saturday Morning Cartoon group-pose alert!

Nah, that's a group shot of the anonymous alcoholic society from Mordheim.

Those are some cool looking vampire models. I like them unlike that female long flowing dress vampire on a cavalry base one.

So the Elf archer was designed to kill skelington while Jelsen was designed to kill bosses and big guys. Oof.

Chopstick wrote:
So the Elf archer was designed to kill skelington while Jelsen was designed to kill bosses and big guys. Oof.

I'm missing context.
The witch hunter who is leading the expedition and specialized in killing vampires is... good at killing vampire bosses, and that's... bad?

I think I have to buy this