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Cronch wrote:
Cadians and Catachans continued existence demonstrates you are wrong.

Catachans exist therefore all of GW's multi-parts were crap?

Sure. That logic tracks. In clown world.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Some previous shots of the Snagga Boyz suggested no interchangeability, because there were 100% identical models shown in the preview shots. But maybe for some whacky reason they are interchangeable and some whacko at the GW studio decided to build them 100% identical anyway.

This shot...

They're not 100% identical - note the guy in the top-left with the choppa, and his identically-posed friend near the centre-middle. One of them has a two-handed gun and, as mentioned, the other has a choppa. Not to mention the Nob.

This suggests a very, very small amount of customizability.

Yes, the special weapon guy and the boss have weapon swaps available, and the boss has a few extra gubbins. But their bodies are still monopose and everyone else is identical.

Being space savage orks I wouldn't expect as many weapon options for basic boyz as the other klans. Choppas, sluggas, and a nob with melee options is sufficient.

They're not space savage orks though - Beastsnaggas are 'regular' orks who wrangle lots of squigs; not wildboys or feral orks.

Does the Nob from the Kommandos set have an ork skull wearing a fedora as a belt buckle?

He is the Ork who Knocks.

 MinMax wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Some previous shots of the Snagga Boyz suggested no interchangeability, because there were 100% identical models shown in the preview shots. But maybe for some whacky reason they are interchangeable and some whacko at the GW studio decided to build them 100% identical anyway.

This shot...

They're not 100% identical - note the guy in the top-left with the choppa, and his identically-posed friend near the centre-middle. One of them has a two-handed gun and, as mentioned, the other has a choppa. Not to mention the Nob.

This suggests a very, very small amount of customizability.

I did actually notice the dude with what looks like a shotgun.

There are 20 models total, 8 models that are perfectly duplicated (16 of the 20), then the Shoota dude and his doppleganger in the top left (interestingly even though it's a variant, they still used the same head, so no head interchangeability? Then I think the guy 2nd from the left in the top row is what the Nob looks like if you don't build him as a Nob.

But still, if there's any meaningful ability to swap bits and pieces between the models, it would be really odd for them to make so many clones for a display picture.


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Blastaar wrote:
Being space savage orks I wouldn't expect as many weapon options for basic boyz as the other klans. Choppas, sluggas, and a nob with melee options is sufficient.

It's not so much a question of weapon options as just being able to build them in a way that they aren't clones. If there was interchangeability in parts between the models then instead of having 20 models that have obvious clones, you could maybe maybe 30 or 40 before you start noticing the clones, at which point the clones get far enough apart in the regiment for it not to be a problem.

With how the poses are it should be very easy to swap hands and heads though, given you have a hobby knife. I did it with poxwalkers, shouldn't be harder here. If the size difference is small enough you might easily throw in Boyz Bits.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
With how the poses are it should be very easy to swap hands and heads though, given you have a hobby knife. I did it with poxwalkers, shouldn't be harder here. If the size difference is small enough you might easily throw in Boyz Bits.

At this point we don't really know. If the designers sculpted the head into part of the torso detail or something silly like that it may not be easy to swap heads.

Or maybe the heads are fully interchangeable and whoever built that set is just a crazy weirdo who likes clones.

I do actually wonder whether the Krieg heads are interchangable, given they have the air tube thingo.

I thought the Ork starter box figures were limited option like the Sisters starter with a full kit of Beast Snagga boys to come later. Did I imagine that?

Really eager to see the price for this box.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 catbarf wrote:
That's... How Krieg have always been, though. Legs, body, and head as one piece, with only the arms separate.

But if they'd been in plastic in the days before the great shift to GW's current design ethos, they would not have been so static.

Ah, yes, good old days of totally not static plastic kits

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Although the skitarii legs are separate, they aren't poseable. Each torso has a specific set of legs which only fits it and (in almost every case) gives absolutely no freedom of movement.

You're trying to inject facts into cherrypicked ideology. When I pointed out even his favourite straw subject, Space Marines, doesn't work that way (as demonstrated by BA/DA/SW Termies, which, while ""multipose"" will only go one legs with one torso one way only without heavy cutting and puttying while looking far worse than Primaris bodies because bits not quite line up) all I heard was crickets and example shifting. I have no idea why he has that belt fixation, slight rotation absolutely does not make ""multipose"" body look any different so you might as well make it look good instead.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
They're not space savage orks though - Beastsnaggas are 'regular' orks who wrangle lots of squigs; not wildboys or feral orks.

I admit I still don't quite get the point of these Beast Snaggas. Are they meant to be (sort of) the new take on the Snakebites?

Question of taste obviousely. Personally I find body rotation makes for a lot of different poses actually and find GW's fixed bodys very repetitive. In my opinion GWs sets today are nice to complement older multipose models but whole armies of these new kits have quite obvious clones if you don't use your hobby knife properly.


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Iracundus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
They're not space savage orks though - Beastsnaggas are 'regular' orks who wrangle lots of squigs; not wildboys or feral orks.

I admit I still don't quite get the point of these Beast Snaggas. Are they meant to be (sort of) the new take on the Snakebites?

They seem to be for Snakebites what Speed Freaks are for Evil Sunz. Signature units if you like. Nobody is stopping you from building your Snakebite Boyz/ feral Orks from Savage Orks still .

 Irbis wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 catbarf wrote:
That's... How Krieg have always been, though. Legs, body, and head as one piece, with only the arms separate.

But if they'd been in plastic in the days before the great shift to GW's current design ethos, they would not have been so static.

Ah, yes, good old days of totally not static plastic kits

Spoiler:

Weren't those metal though?

Does it really matter if a kit is multipose, if all poses you can make are identical?

Iracundus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
They're not space savage orks though - Beastsnaggas are 'regular' orks who wrangle lots of squigs; not wildboys or feral orks.

I admit I still don't quite get the point of these Beast Snaggas. Are they meant to be (sort of) the new take on the Snakebites?

Nope. They're a subfaction, not a clan. GW decided they wanted to show off more of the squig side of ork kultur, and decided monster hunters were a usable take on things.

That said, they're probably more common among Snakebites, same way Speed Freaks are more common among Evil Sunz, or Lootas among Death Skulls or Kommandos among Blood Axes and (once upon a time) Stormboyz among Goffs.

Even further back, the clans had various specialties and had more oddboyz than other clans. Snakebites dealt more with grots (and squigs) so had more runtherdz, Evil Suns had more Mekboys, Bad Moons had more weirdboys (and their teef grew faster, so they had more upgrades).

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 Irbis wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 catbarf wrote:
That's... How Krieg have always been, though. Legs, body, and head as one piece, with only the arms separate.

But if they'd been in plastic in the days before the great shift to GW's current design ethos, they would not have been so static.

Ah, yes, good old days of totally not static plastic kits

Spoiler:

Weren't those metal though?

No,.they were the first plastic kits. One piece models (except for tje shields)

so we came a long way from single part monopose plastics with metal options (sold in blisters) to multi part monopose plastic with plastic options

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ork Boy sprue, and the Snaggas are definitely going to be interesting to contrast and compare with the Kommandos.

Are we seeing GW move wholesale back to more interchangeable kits, or is it currently to give flexibility to Kill Team specific kits?

Some previous shots of the Snagga Boyz suggested no interchangeability, because there were 100% identical models shown in the preview shots. But maybe for some whacky reason they are interchangeable and some whacko at the GW studio decided to build them 100% identical anyway.

This shot...

Spoiler:

It took me so long to actually find the duplicates I'm not entirely concerned with their being duplicates, tbh. All it takes is a paint job to hide them unless you scrutinize for differences.

You're ignoring an entire era of multipart plastics that started appearing after those very basic plastics.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
With how the poses are it should be very easy to swap hands and heads though, given you have a hobby knife. I did it with poxwalkers, shouldn't be harder here. If the size difference is small enough you might easily throw in Boyz Bits.

At this point we don't really know. If the designers sculpted the head into part of the torso detail or something silly like that it may not be easy to swap heads.

Or maybe the heads are fully interchangeable and whoever built that set is just a crazy weirdo who likes clones.

I do actually wonder whether the Krieg heads are interchangable, given they have the air tube thingo.

No need to wonder. They showed on the reveal video the heads are separate. They explained the models have arm, weapon and head options.

So there won't be a separate codex to preorder next saturday. You only get a limited edition Codex if you preorder the Beastsnagga box.

:-( sucks for those orkplayers who don't want those Beastsnaggas..

Anon052 wrote:
So there won't be a separate codex to preorder next saturday. You only get a limited edition Codex if you preorder the Beastsnagga box.

:-( sucks for those orkplayers who don't want those Beastsnaggas..

The LE codex also drives up the price of the box.

Anon052 wrote:
So there won't be a separate codex to preorder next saturday. You only get a limited edition Codex if you preorder the Beastsnagga box.

:-( sucks for those orkplayers who don't want those Beastsnaggas..

Going to be fun in tournaments with 2 legal ork codexes

Blastaar wrote:

Anon052 wrote:
So there won't be a separate codex to preorder next saturday. You only get a limited edition Codex if you preorder the Beastsnagga box.

:-( sucks for those orkplayers who don't want those Beastsnaggas..

The LE codex also drives up the price of the box.

I'm guessing it'll be priced similarly to the Lumineth box. The only 'discount' was if you wanted the limited edition codex, but otherwise it worked out pretty much the same price as buying the kits individually + the normal codex.

How much was the Lumineth? The Sisters was $200

Im the first to call out GW horrible kits but the krieg one looks like to be one of the BEST kits GW has made recently. 10 completely unique great coat models with ton of weapons options and even KT customization that also works for 40k.
Looking at the sprue shots the look really promising. I doubt theres a better way ,GW could have done in plástic.

 GaroRobe wrote:
How much was the Lumineth? The Sisters was $200

The same, IIRC. I didn't check when at the Citadel in TX a couple weeks ago(which still has some of the Lumineth boxes).

Well I don't think its going to take long for rest of the orks to catch up. They got deffkoptas for delivery!

But weird thing is... now that I know that we are getting brand new ork boyz and deffkoptas I don't think I need any Beast Snaggas. They just overlap so much.

 Galas wrote:
Im the first to call out GW horrible kits but the krieg one looks like to be one of the BEST kits GW has made recently. 10 completely unique great coat models with ton of weapons options and even KT customization that also works for 40k.
Looking at the sprue shots the look really promising. I doubt theres a better way ,GW could have done in plástic.

Yes, it is quite a pleasant suprise.