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 lord_blackfang wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
So have the eagle eyed sprue hunters managed to figure out how many build options the Snagga Boyz sprues have?


Currently we are praying that at least the loose arms have the same shoulder joins


Looking at the sprue they don't - the arms are a mix of moulded onto torso, parts of arm only, or odd shapes at the join to fit certain torso arrangements.

Those damn monkeys keep stealing my saving throws

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tneva82 wrote:
It's simple. Because it's DISCOUNT box. Repeat that after me. DISCOUNT box. It means it's got DISCOUNT. Now we can be pretty safe to assume cost to produce box doesn't go down for GW because it's DISCOUNT box so that DISCOUNT has to come from somewhere. Since customers pay less for the DISCOUNT box and expenses stay same the difference comes from GW profit margin. Ergo they don't want to sell the DISCOUNT box for everybody to the point they won't sell the full kit at full price.

Why sell X for 70 when you can sell X for 100?


Yeah.
What GW hope for is that some very hyper people buy this box - and it forms the seed of a whole new (or at least expanded) Ork Army. After all, its only 450~ points or something. Gotta buy yourself some more Squighogz.

What GW doesn't want is there to be say huge numbers of Snagga Boyz on Ebay floating around at say £15-20~ for 10, when they are trying to charge say £35-40.

It would be interesting to see as a consequence of Indomitus how many Necron Warriors have been sold - and those were stuck at a relatively low (for GW) £29. They are still regularly shifting for as little as half that on secondary markets.
   
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I don't think it will apply to beast snaggas, as the cheap necrons come from players who wanted just the marine half.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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In regard to Indomitus and cheap Necrons, I got a whole armies worth for very cheap (3 full necron forces worth of indomitus). On the plus for GW, I would not have bought any necrons otherwise (and to-date, have not purchased other necrons so far). At some point, GW should benefit from me diving into a new army.

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tneva82 wrote:
Commisar Marbh wrote:
 Lord of Deeds wrote:
So the queue time estimate was totally bogus. Actually ended up being 23 minutes from the original 3 minutes. What a waste of time.

Wonder how long GW can continue with the bad feels they create with these types of releases.
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I would hope they look at this as cash left on the table and change their practices.



They look at money they gain from selling same stuff at no discount later.


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 streetsamurai wrote:
It's incredible that they haven't learn from the past and make more of these boxes. They always seems to sell out in less than a hour


Uuuhh...they have learned. They are doing this because it brings 'em more ££££££££.

You assume their goal is to sell at discount to everybody. Rather than sell at full price for most.


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 streetsamurai wrote:
Well, GW is not exactly a pop and mom company. It's a big publically trade one. Their goal should be to maximize their profit (to a certain extent of course). It's obvious that they leave a lot of money on the table, for god knows what reason. I could understand if it was a AOS or Specialist release, but is there a 40k box in the last few years that hasn't sold out in less than a day?


It's pretty obvious that they keep the number produced on these boxes ridiculously low, and it would be interesting to hear why from the execs (which theyll never do unfortunately)


It's simple. Because it's DISCOUNT box. Repeat that after me. DISCOUNT box. It means it's got DISCOUNT. Now we can be pretty safe to assume cost to produce box doesn't go down for GW because it's DISCOUNT box so that DISCOUNT has to come from somewhere. Since customers pay less for the DISCOUNT box and expenses stay same the difference comes from GW profit margin. Ergo they don't want to sell the DISCOUNT box for everybody to the point they won't sell the full kit at full price.

Why sell X for 70 when you can sell X for 100?


Well your "logic" falls flat since a lot of customers who would have buy the said DISCOUNT box, won't buy the model individually once they re released, and probably no other models from the range (since they won't play that army cause they couldn't get the DISCOUNT box). Most of the armies i own were started cause i was able to buy a DISCOUNT box for them, and I'm sure I'm far from the only one

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It's simple. Because it's DISCOUNT box. Repeat that after me. DISCOUNT box. It means it's got DISCOUNT. Now we can be pretty safe to assume cost to produce box doesn't go down for GW because it's DISCOUNT box so that DISCOUNT has to come from somewhere. Since customers pay less for the DISCOUNT box and expenses stay same the difference comes from GW profit margin. Ergo they don't want to sell the DISCOUNT box for everybody to the point they won't sell the full kit at full price.

Why sell X for 70 when you can sell X for 100?


Or X for 130 to USA


Well your "logic" falls flat since a lot of customers who would have buy the said DISCOUNT box, won't buy the model individually once they re released, and probably no other models from the range (since they won't play that army cause they couldn't get the DISCOUNT box). Most of the armies i own were started cause i was able to buy a DISCOUNT box for them, and I'm sure I'm far from the only one

Definately not the only one. I was mostly after the ork codex and cards and the box was a good value, this way I could maybe buy some more units and play some orks or maybe rekindle playing. Since I couldn't get it. I will just get the boss on the big squig and a box of regular boys to throw in the mix with my regular boys. So honestly it saves me some money. I don't even think I will get the codex as I doubt I will use it. My love of 40k has mostly went to collecting since 5th edition.

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Tazok wrote:
In regard to Indomitus and cheap Necrons, I got a whole armies worth for very cheap (3 full necron forces worth of indomitus). On the plus for GW, I would not have bought any necrons otherwise (and to-date, have not purchased other necrons so far). At some point, GW should benefit from me diving into a new army.


That's how I started my DG. I probably paid less than 100€ for my first 2k points. And technically my orks as well, as I got three sets of AOBR orks.

Any time a box is marines vs something, ebay gets flooded with the other half.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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 streetsamurai wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Commisar Marbh wrote:
 Lord of Deeds wrote:
So the queue time estimate was totally bogus. Actually ended up being 23 minutes from the original 3 minutes. What a waste of time.

Wonder how long GW can continue with the bad feels they create with these types of releases.
]\

I would hope they look at this as cash left on the table and change their practices.



They look at money they gain from selling same stuff at no discount later.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 streetsamurai wrote:
It's incredible that they haven't learn from the past and make more of these boxes. They always seems to sell out in less than a hour


Uuuhh...they have learned. They are doing this because it brings 'em more ££££££££.

You assume their goal is to sell at discount to everybody. Rather than sell at full price for most.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Well, GW is not exactly a pop and mom company. It's a big publically trade one. Their goal should be to maximize their profit (to a certain extent of course). It's obvious that they leave a lot of money on the table, for god knows what reason. I could understand if it was a AOS or Specialist release, but is there a 40k box in the last few years that hasn't sold out in less than a day?


It's pretty obvious that they keep the number produced on these boxes ridiculously low, and it would be interesting to hear why from the execs (which theyll never do unfortunately)


It's simple. Because it's DISCOUNT box. Repeat that after me. DISCOUNT box. It means it's got DISCOUNT. Now we can be pretty safe to assume cost to produce box doesn't go down for GW because it's DISCOUNT box so that DISCOUNT has to come from somewhere. Since customers pay less for the DISCOUNT box and expenses stay same the difference comes from GW profit margin. Ergo they don't want to sell the DISCOUNT box for everybody to the point they won't sell the full kit at full price.

Why sell X for 70 when you can sell X for 100?


Well your "logic" falls flat since a lot of customers who would have buy the said DISCOUNT box, won't buy the model individually once they re released, and probably no other models from the range (since they won't play that army cause they couldn't get the DISCOUNT box). Most of the armies i own were started cause i was able to buy a DISCOUNT box for them, and I'm sure I'm far from the only one


Most armies I now have started with a DISCOUNT box of some description. If it weren't for DISCOUNT boxes, I possibly never would have gotten in to Warhammer at all. I'm sure for many folk the baseline GW prices are too absurd to buy significantly large armies without the assistance of DISCOUNT boxes.
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Most armies I now have started with a DISCOUNT box of some description. If it weren't for DISCOUNT boxes, I possibly never would have gotten in to Warhammer at all. I'm sure for many folk the baseline GW prices are too absurd to buy significantly large armies without the assistance of DISCOUNT boxes.


Isn't that rather an argument for GW to keep making new, limited DISCOUNT boxes instead of keeping DISCOUNT boxes around indefinitely? I know a lot of people who have doubled the number of armies they own because of all the DISCOUNT boxes GW released during 8th - the DG starter set made them start DG and/or marines, the shadow spear DISCOUNT box added more marines and started CSM armies, the forgebane DISCOUNT box had many people start necrons and admech, the renegade knights DISCOUNT box spawned knight armies all over the place, the prophecy of the wolf DISCOUNT box made many SW start orks and many orks start SW, everyone wanted the siters DISCOUNT box and of course the infamous indomitus DISCOUNT box for even more necrons and marines. The only DISCOUNT box that bombed was the eldar one, both because it was full of old models and because the DISCOUNT was not high enough.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Most armies I now have started with a DISCOUNT box of some description. If it weren't for DISCOUNT boxes, I possibly never would have gotten in to Warhammer at all. I'm sure for many folk the baseline GW prices are too absurd to buy significantly large armies without the assistance of DISCOUNT boxes.


Isn't that rather an argument for GW to keep making new, limited DISCOUNT boxes instead of keeping DISCOUNT boxes around indefinitely? I know a lot of people who have doubled the number of armies they own because of all the DISCOUNT boxes GW released during 8th - the DG starter set made them start DG and/or marines, the shadow spear DISCOUNT box added more marines and started CSM armies, the forgebane DISCOUNT box had many people start necrons and admech, the renegade knights DISCOUNT box spawned knight armies all over the place, the prophecy of the wolf DISCOUNT box made many SW start orks and many orks start SW, everyone wanted the siters DISCOUNT box and of course the infamous indomitus DISCOUNT box for even more necrons and marines. The only DISCOUNT box that bombed was the eldar one, both because it was full of old models and because the DISCOUNT was not high enough.


It's all a balance I think. They don't want DISCOUNT boxes sitting on the shelves for years, but if all the DISCOUNT boxes sell out within 5 minutes then chances are it was only bought by the most ravenous of fans, many of which might have bought it even if there wasn't a DISCOUNT box to buy it in. I don't think it benefits GW if customers see the post-DISCOUNT models on sale and feel like they're being ripped off because they 'missed' the DISCOUNT box that came earlier.

GW have more information than we do to know where that balance lies, but I don't think they're exempt from mistakes and they're always trying to push the limits of the balance.

I think GW would be well served to have a handful of DISCOUNT boxes on the go at one time. Though GW at the moment are also in the position where they can sell new models faster than they can make them, so that creates a bit of a bias too.

   
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All i got out of that was DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
All i got out of that was DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT


Careful, you might summon a CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
All i got out of that was DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT DISCOUNT


Careful, you might summon a CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.


But is it a DISCOUNTED CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT?

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
It's all a balance I think. They don't want DISCOUNT boxes sitting on the shelves for years, but if all the DISCOUNT boxes sell out within 5 minutes then chances are it was only bought by the most ravenous of fans, many of which might have bought it even if there wasn't a DISCOUNT box to buy it in. I don't think it benefits GW if customers see the post-DISCOUNT models on sale and feel like they're being ripped off because they 'missed' the DISCOUNT box that came earlier.

I think a lot less people would have issues with the ork DISCOUNT box selling out, if the regular codex would just be released alongside with it and the DISCOUNT box just being the limited edition release.

GW have more information than we do to know where that balance lies, but I don't think they're exempt from mistakes and they're always trying to push the limits of the balance.

I was working for a company that is operating very similarly to GW - most likely they have a pile of data somewhere but everyone interprets differently with good portion of gut feeling. It's also not the the first time they have underestimated how numerous the or community is.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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I think the discount boxes are often a way to get you to buy more than you usually would. Like from the Beastsnagga release I'm mostly only interested in the squig riders, nothing else. So it's better for me to buy the squig riders and leave the rest of it. But a big discount box tempts me into buying more stuff.

So in that sense it's not a huge loss to GW to sell them because they get bigger individual sales in a short space of time.

But it does suck if the stock is gone before people even know it's up for sale. The fact that it sold out in seconds in australia for example is poor form on GW's part and builds ill feeling, justifiably.

   
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Personally, I didn't even try to get it, because I was on vacation and haven't even built the vast majority of Dominion minis.

If they had it available next month I would've bought it, this was I might not get any Beastsnaggas - outside maybe the shark boss - and wait for the Kommandos to be sold, as they're a more urgent "need" for my Orks. If the box was widely available with discount, getting the upsell from Codex to stylistically different subfaction for my Orks would've been a lot easier for GW.

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tneva82 wrote:
It's simple. Because it's DISCOUNT box. Repeat that after me. DISCOUNT box. It means it's got DISCOUNT. Now we can be pretty safe to assume cost to produce box doesn't go down for GW because it's DISCOUNT box so that DISCOUNT has to come from somewhere. Since customers pay less for the DISCOUNT box and expenses stay same the difference comes from GW profit margin. Ergo they don't want to sell the DISCOUNT box for everybody to the point they won't sell the full kit at full price.

Why sell X for 70 when you can sell X for 100?

Because, genius, there are people who will buy X for 70 and won't buy for 100. That's the whole reason behind introduction of Start Collecting by GW when their sales were crashing. Pity they seem to have forgotten that lesson and are now trying to extract cash from whales instead of building healthy base.

Using your "logic" GW should sell X for 999, think of the profit margins then!

Tyel wrote:
It would be interesting to see as a consequence of Indomitus how many Necron Warriors have been sold - and those were stuck at a relatively low (for GW) £29. They are still regularly shifting for as little as half that on secondary markets.

Probably close to zero, but not thanks to Indomitus - 9th edition starter has 10 Necron Warriors and a ton of other stuff for almost the same price...
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
But is it a DISCOUNTED CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT?
Depends what country you buy it from.

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 Irbis wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
It's simple. Because it's DISCOUNT box. Repeat that after me. DISCOUNT box. It means it's got DISCOUNT. Now we can be pretty safe to assume cost to produce box doesn't go down for GW because it's DISCOUNT box so that DISCOUNT has to come from somewhere. Since customers pay less for the DISCOUNT box and expenses stay same the difference comes from GW profit margin. Ergo they don't want to sell the DISCOUNT box for everybody to the point they won't sell the full kit at full price.



Using your "logic" GW should sell X for 999, think of the profit margins then!


I mean, everything is getting steadily more expensive at a rapid rate, meaning GW is testing the waters for just how expensive they can make something for people to still buy.

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I'll be honest, the last 3 years or so I pretty much only buy DISCOUNT boxes.

Starter Sets, Two-Player Battleboxes, Holiday Battleforces, Start Collecting! and Combat Patrol boxes. Those are my bread and butter. I have a backlog of start collecting boxes (both AoS and 40k) about 8 feet high. I buy most of the two-player boxes and holiday battleforces in twos - some of them I've gone so far as to buy in 3's. It gets frustrating sometimes because GW rarely puts the units I want/need in them, and often the same one or two units keep popping up over and over (thats how I've ended up with 10 Drukhari Venoms but 0 Raiders, and 100 Skitarii Rangers/Vanguard but 0 Kataphron Breachers/Destroyers, though I'll be picking up one of the new AdMech Combat Patrols soon enough. And yes I know there were boxes in the past that had Raiders and Kataphrons, I missed those).

Basically, if I can't buy it in a DISCOUNT bundle then I'm not going to buy it at all. That might change if I ever get to the point where I've solidly bulked out my collection via DISCOUNT boxes and only need to buy a handful of items to round out my collection for a faction, but we'll cross that bridge if we ever get there.

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So the combat patrol for orks is (No pics atm, but Valrak has a vid up on youtube):
*New boyz (20)
*Mega armor warboss
*Deff koptas
*Deff Dread

First off, seems like a great deal. Mostly new models, and even the deff doesn't look bad. But the question is, will they also be released separatley?

I mused a few pages ago that if 40k still got Start Collecting sets, that maybe the boyz would be released in that. GW did that with slaves to darkness, where the kept the old plastic kit and released new warriors and horsemen in the SC. More recently, the wight king has only debuted so far in the soul blight start collecting.

I guess we'll know soon enough, since the old boyz kit will either be OOP or remain on the website. But it will suck if the only way to pick up some of the models (deff koptaz, warboss, etc) is through a 140 set, even if it is a decent deal

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 GaroRobe wrote:
So the combat patrol for orks is (No pics atm, but Valrak has a vid up on youtube):
*New boyz (20)
*Mega armor warboss
*Deff koptas
*Deff Dread

First off, seems like a great deal. Mostly new models, and even the deff doesn't look bad. But the question is, will they also be released separatley?

I mused a few pages ago that if 40k still got Start Collecting sets, that maybe the boyz would be released in that. GW did that with slaves to darkness, where the kept the old plastic kit and released new warriors and horsemen in the SC. More recently, the wight king has only debuted so far in the soul blight start collecting.

I guess we'll know soon enough, since the old boyz kit will either be OOP or remain on the website. But it will suck if the only way to pick up some of the models (deff koptaz, warboss, etc) is through a 140 set, even if it is a decent deal


And how does he know that?

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
So the combat patrol for orks is (No pics atm, but Valrak has a vid up on youtube):
*New boyz (20)
*Mega armor warboss
*Deff koptas
*Deff Dread

First off, seems like a great deal. Mostly new models, and even the deff doesn't look bad. But the question is, will they also be released separatley?

I mused a few pages ago that if 40k still got Start Collecting sets, that maybe the boyz would be released in that. GW did that with slaves to darkness, where the kept the old plastic kit and released new warriors and horsemen in the SC. More recently, the wight king has only debuted so far in the soul blight start collecting.

I guess we'll know soon enough, since the old boyz kit will either be OOP or remain on the website. But it will suck if the only way to pick up some of the models (deff koptaz, warboss, etc) is through a 140 set, even if it is a decent deal


And how does he know that?


Its in the White Dwarf. I screenshotted it, but I'm not savvy enough with computers to upload it on dakkadakka.


   
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That's a great Starter box, contains mostly new models and all things you'd actually want! Makes a great complement to anyone starting with the Beast Snaggas box.

   
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That is a good starter box.

The Warboss is great, never hurts to have another Dread, adding the new Koptaz is a nice touch, and 20 Boyz will make for good Skarboyz alongside the old regular Boyz kit.

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 Prometheum5 wrote:
That's a great Starter box, contains mostly new models and all things you'd actually want! Makes a great complement to anyone starting with the Beast Snaggas box.


Or a great starter box for anyone shying away from the Snaggas on account of the fact that they are lame.

I appreciate the fact that it excludes Snaggas and provides a cost effective way to "snag" a megaboss and some nuBoyz. Will definitely pick one up if true, even if I'm not sure about the Deffkoptas. It'll be a fun box if nothing else, and I want to support GW's newfound passion for flooding us with new models all of a sudden.

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Well deffkoptas should be a fine unit, just haven't seen rules for it yet.

I am more concerned when its going to be available as some battleforces/combat patrols can lag behind releases.
   
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Ugh, I already have 9 Deff Dreads >.< but looks like a trio of those Combat Patrols are in my future once I figure out what to do with the extra Deff Dreads

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So general question that I can't seem to find an answer for anywhere so hopefully you lads can aide me.

Is the beast snaggas box coming this Saturday or next week? I can't find any answers and I need to know if I need to show up outside my LGS at 8AM to get in the queue or not.

 
   
 
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