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 streetsamurai wrote:
I really wonder of the eldar range will ever get a makeover. The banshee made me hopeful for one, but that was, iirc, already two years ago. Seems like they have nothing more in the pipeline for them, which is a huge shame. If they ever get redone, i hope they have a more alien look (like some of the art) and look less like elves in space

I don't think any Eldar fan would like it if they overhauled the aesthetic that remained completly unchanged for a good 30 years, and was the reason they probably picked them as their army in the first place.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
This site really does have its own Godwin’s law.

No matter the subject, eventually someone will start moaning about Eldar/guard or whatever models not being updated since 199X.

It’s so boring.

Having the same fething models since Bill Clinton was president is quite boring too.

Looking at your sig you don't buy new models anyway, so why does this concern you?

Btw, as a GSC player since the middle 90's all my faction specific models where from 1989 until the revival. And what a revival it was!

 streetsamurai wrote:
I really wonder of the eldar range will ever get a makeover. The banshee made me hopeful for one, but that was, iirc, already two years ago. Seems like they have nothing more in the pipeline for them, which is a huge shame. If they ever get redone, i hope they have a more alien look (like some of the art) and look less like elves in space

Back when Jes Goodwin did a thing on Voxcast showcasing the Serberys and whatnot, he made a mention of starting to work on some Aeldari stuff after he did the AdMech stuff for Engine War.

At least one rumor engine picture looks like an aeldari glove, so there's got to be something coming

I actually quite like the current Eldar range. I’ve painted enough of them in the last few years and I like their look. The only thing I’d really like to see are plastic aspect warriors, and a plastic warlock conclave.

 General Kroll wrote:
I actually quite like the current Eldar range. I’ve painted enough of them in the last few years and I like their look. The only thing I’d really like to see are plastic aspect warriors, and a plastic warlock conclave.

adding onto that, it'd be nice to see a plastic Avatar of Kaine. if only because back in the day the Avatar was phsycialy and stats wise on par with greater deamons and the like and now is a bit small

I was sceptical of the whole Warhammer+ thing when it was first announced. After seeing more details I'm not particularly persuaded. I'm not an AoS player so the model/app access for it is fairly useless to me. Of the other things they annoucned:

1. There are two animations available at launch. That's nowhere near enough to grab my interest and doesn't bode well for the future release schedule. They announced 11 animations in the initial preview and I'd have been expecting around 5-6 of those either at launch or in the first month to make subscribing for the animations worth it.

2. Special VIP...stuff. Well, GW haven't really said what this is so it's not a selling point.

3. Lore videos! From experts! This is an intriguing idea, if only because I'm genuinely interested in how they present it. The actual content is easily available elsewhere though so, again, it's not a selling point.

4. Battle reports. I can get them from numerous places online for free. Those reports probably include fewer rules mistakes and more interesting armies than GW's ones will.

5. Free app access. The 40k app sucks. It's still non-functional for some armies 9 months after launch. Battlescribe of pen and paper are better alternatives.

6. Free mini. Only after 12 months. The Vindicare is nice but the stupid statue ruins it for me and I already own a perfectly serviceable Vindicare model. Granted, he's not carting his own piece of elevated cover around with him, but I view that as a positive. I also note people are mentioning the ~£25 cost of the character model as making the annual sub worth it but that only applies if you think £25 is a reasonable price for those sorts of models in the first place. I don't, which is why I haven't paid that price for a GW character in years.

To me it seems like most of what's on offer is pretty worthless. £50 a year is not a huge amount of money but I'd much rather take that £50 and spend it purely on things I want for my hobby instead of a bunch of online material of dubious or unknown quality.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Back when Jes Goodwin did a thing on Voxcast showcasing the Serberys and whatnot, he made a mention of starting to work on some Aeldari stuff after he did the AdMech stuff for Engine War.

I miss voxcast. Outside of the company propaganda, it was very enlightening to here things from Jes and other designer's perspective.

Does anyone know if it's been confirmed that Warhammer+ will be available to watch on xbox live?

 sub-zero wrote:
Does anyone know if it's been confirmed that Warhammer+ will be available to watch on xbox live?

From a Warhammer Community article:

Much of the new content will be available through the new Warhammer TV app. This is your hub for all of the new painting, lore, and gaming shows, as well as Warhammer animations. It will be available at launch on iOS and Android, as well as the Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, and Roku services, so you can watch the latest episodes of Loremaster, Citadel Colour Masterclass, and more from the comfort of your sofa.

We’re aiming to cover even more platforms post-launch, but in the meantime, Warhammer TV will also have a dedicated website that you can access from your desktop, mobile, and tablet as needed.


I assume Xbox Live comes under "even more platforms post-launch".

There is a Hammer and Bolter preview this Saturday. In summary, an episode about Yarrick from an Ork perspective available for 24 hours as advertisement for the Warhammer+ launch.

This weekend, for 24 hours only from 12pm BST on Saturday the 21st of August, you can watch an entire episode of Hammer and Bolter for free.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/16/watch-a-full-episode-of-hammer-and-bolter-for-free-this-saturday-only/

Well, definitely looking forward to that.

Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

 The Phazer wrote:
Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

Is there a difference between an Android app and an Android TV app?

beast_gts wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

Is there a difference between an Android app and an Android TV app?

In practice yes though they're very similar. But they have different application manifests and realistically different user interfaces.

 The Phazer wrote:
Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

Did they ever reveal who the "top company" is? I wouldn't be surprised to learn its a middling but established company that nobody has ever actually heard of

chaos0xomega wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

Did they ever reveal who the "top company" is? I wouldn't be surprised to learn its a middling but established company that nobody has ever actually heard of

No, but I'll figure it out within half an hour of the app going live.

It's probably funnier if we stick with top men.

Top. Men.

 Geifer wrote:
It's probably funnier if we stick with top men.

Top. Men.

Wait a second...that was in a film!

I know this one....don't tell me! Its...ummmm...errrr...

...RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK!

SamusDrake wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
It's probably funnier if we stick with top men.

Top. Men.

Wait a second...that was in a film!

I know this one....don't tell me! Its...ummmm...errrr...

...RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK!

That was alright.

Stylized animation, alright for what it was. Entertaining enough story.

Not sure why, but the two orks sort of gave me Beevis and Butthead vibes.

...holy feth, that was cheap and stilted as all hell >_>

When they showed Gork and Mork, I'm pretty sure they got them mixed up.

I don't blame them for thinking the fiery red one is Gork (I made that mistake), but I'm pretty sure the blue one is Gork and the fiery one is Mork

felt like an animated comic, but at least the art was good and the soundtrack was amazing

If Hammer and Bolter is just hot takes/re-tellings of famous battles/rivalries etc, I'll take it.

Think who they could cover with it, Mephistons story is pretty epic, the last chancers, an Eisenhorn short story, there's too many to mention and that is just the imperial possibilities.


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shadowsfm wrote:
felt like an animated comic, but at least the art was good and the soundtrack was amazing

I got Batman: The Dark Knight Returns vibes from it in terms of the animation (animated comic as you say), I like it.

I enjoyed it for the story and the animation was mixed to me. Some very good animated sequences mixed with some slide-show-ish sequences and some weird choices.

Though overall. I still enjoyed it. The Art-style itself was great and the voice acting was really good. I was skeptical for the voice acting because of Angels of Death, but this has put my mind at ease.

Not too bad for a first episode.

The Orks reminded me of the Gummi Bears, of all things…

The story was fun (though well known), and the art did look nice. I assume Warhammer+ will have a variety of animation styles, but this alone isn’t enough to convince me a subscription is worth it.

Music - absolutely perfect.
Voice acting - very solid!
Orkyness - spot on
Artistic designs - really good!
Animation - works for what it intends to be which is more of a visual comic than it is a full fluid animation.

The style of story telling through narration also works well for summarising the whole story that its aiming to do.



All round its great! Sure if they smooth animated the whole thing like an anime from the 80-90s it would be "better" but GW isn't working with those budgets nor staff on this project.
I'd say its a very solid first step and we know this comes alongside other animations with other styles. It will be interesting to see how the different styles evolve and develop. It's also nice to see it being a solid intro, you don't really have to know too much about the setting to get this animation and what it shows you.
It also does the important thing of leaving an open ending so it leaves you wanting more and leaves the opportunity for more to be made.



Overall very solid and makes me eager for more.