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**Not Online!!!**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

sheesh, my own as of now (imo) sparsely decorated table in the making has more terrain in it than this?

**Oguhmek**

If they had the complete back catalogue of WD I would subscribe in a heartbeat.

**schoon**

So... Is the Warhamer + app actually out yet?

**kirotheavenger**

Out on the 25th

**Slipspace**

Argive wrote:
Warhammer+ goes live on Wednesday the 25th of August, so save the date. The service launches with the following content:

Episodes 1-3 of the Warhammer animated anthology, Hammer and Bolter
Episode 1 of the Warhammer animation Angels of Death
Access to the Warhammer Vault
Premium access to the Warhammer 40,000: The App
Two episodes of Battle Report
Two episodes of Citadel Masterclass
More New Things Added Every Wednesday

I mean if you were already peying for the app I guess thats is a good way to be milked for a bit more.

The £10 is good and all, but I cant remember the last time I ordered anything directly from GW... Like 3rd poarty store give me up to 20% off as well as cheaper/ free P&P. I go into local store to pick up the occasional wash.paint and have a chat but that's literally it. Everyone I know orders from outsider stores or ebays/ trades. Our wargaming club gets additonal 2% off on top of any discount plus they get some sort of cut to help the club running. So I wouldn't even be able to/wiling spend the £10.

Im glad they clearly stated exactly what is involved in this and how the content will be updated (I guess one new episode of something every Wednesday?)
Hopefully we wont get a wave of people moaning how they signed up to this and how they feel robbed..

That's...thin. I note they don't confirm that the new content every Wednesday will be a new animated episode and could just as easily be a Lore video (seems to be the case from the article) or a batrep. From what they're offering the only things that I can see even possibly having any actual value would be the gift voucher, the "free" model and the animations. The value of the gift voucher is heavily diminished because you have to pay full retail at GW to redeem it. The "free" models are fine but really not my cup of tea and have alternatives available already. That leaves the animation, and a couple of hours of content at launch is just pitiful. There doesn't even seem to be any prospect of a large content dump at some point in the future, just a drip-feed of less than one new episode a week.

That's all assuming the launch actually goes to plan. Seems like a big assumption having seen what they did with the 40k app.

**Overread**

I figure GW will steadily monitor things like what people look at and how often. Things like adding more back-issues of WD is very likely to be something they steadily roll out. I'd wager they'll add them in yearly or half yearly blocks every so often as new content.

**Doohicky**

Not Online!!! wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

sheesh, my own as of now (imo) sparsely decorated table in the making has more terrain in it than this?

Funny, I read the rest of the page and could see from the subsequent pictures that there is much more terrain after they have painted it.

You can see this is different from what is on the board above (Most of that is on the board, but only now is it in this set up.

Also the giant dais that Morty is standing on and can be seen in background of painted pictures is also not in the original picture as far as I can see.

Will it still be sparse? Maybe, I don't know, but using that before picture as proof that it will be sparse is a falacy.

If I was to guess, the first picture is the skeleton they worked from. Then they would have added around it after working out the armies and how to fit the armies on the table.

**kirotheavenger**

That is in the image isn't it? It's the right hand side. Although it looks like they've added in another corner of ruin.
Hopefully the overall table is better.

**Geifer**

Something to consider is that the board is likely as purpose-made for this as the scenario and army lists. Ignoring for a moment the (entirely accurate) comments of this being a paid ad meant to show off the models rather than hide them behind scenery that have come up before and will surely do so again, the pictured Nurgle forces in the article seem quite substantial. I'd think there was a brief to make a board with lots of open ground to facilitate the narrative of a wave of Chaos worshippers breaking against an Imperial defense line. Add too much terrain and you run the risk of taking away the visual of a broad front and substitute it with small pockets and long columns of troops that will alter the feel of it entirely.

Remember this is supposed to be a "historical" recreation. Having the overall visual spectacle in line with that narrative will be of greater concern to the creators than how any individual parts look in isolation, and much more so than any rule or fairness concerns.

No idea if that makes for an exciting battle report, of course.

**Gert**

I think the Battle Reports will likely show off the "3 Ways to Play" thing. Narrative will seem super unfair but there will be rules and surprises, Open would be harder but might see things like 100 Poxwalkers vs 10 Space Marines, and obvs Matched will be regular stuff.
The upside is there isn't going to be a limitation on what armies we will be seeing since it is GW and the presenters will have access to not only their armies but studio armies as well, possibly even guests.

**kirotheavenger**

I am curious what format they take for the battle report though.
Highly edited? Very free form? Just telling us what's happening, or really hamming up the story?

**Oguhmek**

Yea this seems more like a "let's put these models down on a the board and see what happens" thing.

We've gotten used to more or less competitive online battle reports where there is list building, tactics and actual choices being made because that's what's proven to be most popular I guess.

GW have stated that they will do all kinds of battle reports, including competitive ones (with if I recall correctly, specially invited guests). This is just a first introduction show for new players I would assume, featuring the poster armies from the previous edition of the game.

**Overread**

I'm totally down for fun narrative games from GW alongside competitive. I think fun narrative or just fun games in general are very important. I think its easy, with any hobby, to get focused on improving yourself and seeking competitive goals and achieving them and that's fantastic. However I think sometimes you've got to put that down and just do something "fun" or even just different.

Instead of two 2K balanced armies; throw one in at 2K and one in at infinite charging models or something to simulate a huge assault on a defensive position. Mess around with setups and the number of players - throw down 10 people on a table with their own mini-armies and see what happens etc..

I think those things are just as valuable as tight competitive armies and boards and balanced gameplay.

So yep I'd expect GW to show both serious and just narrative and fun stuff.

**Gert**

I'd like a mix TBH.
For Narrative games I'd prefer to see less dice rolling and more results. I don't need to see all the rolls each turn just the ones that matter or are particularly good/bad.
But for Matched Play, I can understand wanting to see the rolls more often.

**Ouze**

Not sure I can ever get excited about a vouchers. The last one I got was $8, was issued Aug 6th, and expires August 31st.

Since I don't want to buy anything RIGHT NOW, it's going to expire - giving me nothing instead would have been a better move, since the tiny window to use the voucher actively annoyed me.

I assume Warhammer+ shows will be just like their video game licensing - the animated equivalent of tons of absolutely shoddy shovelware done on the cheap that tarnishes the brand. I'd love to be proven wrong on this.

**bullyboy**

They have the ability to tie in some of their animation/video with the battle reports if they really wanted to, just to increase production value, but you know that is not going to happen. For example, marine player puts down a drop pod or two....cut to the scene from the video game where drop pods are streaming down...then back to the battle report.

**CragHack**

Show me a Heresy report, give me a Heresy miniature from FW and do a Heresy painting masterclass with Mark Bedford, and I’m in. Otherwise, it’s a hard pass.

**Mr. Grey**

CragHack wrote:
Show me a Heresy report, give me a Heresy miniature from FW and do a Heresy painting masterclass with Mark Bedford, and I’m in. Otherwise, it’s a hard pass.

There's nothing to say that content like this isn't coming at some point in the future. Seems like a lot of folks are completely forgetting that you can subscribe to Warhammer+ for just a single month and then drop it if you don't like what you're getting. If the Heresy 2.0 rumors are remotely accurate then I'd completely expect GW to take advantage of Warhammer+ and push a lot of Horus Heresy content.

**Wha-Mu-077**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

Also that's apparently supposed to take place on a "Rural Agri-World". Because when i think of a Rural planet filled with farms, what i picture is an empty industrial street with metal tiling, with generators, pipes, Churches and also random trenches. Look at it, there's not a single speck of dirt on that board!

**Gert**

Yeah no dirt on an unpainted board. Weird that.

**Wha-Mu-077**

Gert wrote:
Yeah no dirt on an unpainted board. Weird that.

I dunno man, i'd expect an Agri-World board to be majorly composed of y'know, dirt. Probably mostly composed of farms, with some trees and grass on the side, maybe some small rural buildings, maybe some quickly-dug trenches and fortifications.

Not this poor man's industrial sector GW is trying to peddle as a rural farm.

**Overread**

Farming would have huge areas of open fields - huge farming machines (titanic sized ones) as well as huge areas of processing and such. This area is likely a more urban region of the agriworld; so likely near to its landing and processing plants.

That is the factories that process the food into material to be shipped off world; the stores; the offworld landing pads; the generators and reactors to power everything.

Basically just because its an agriworld dedicated to food production, doesn't mean it wouldn't have any rural regions. Though I do 100% get your point and its yes very clear that this is a story built around the limits of the boards that GW currently designs.

**Wha-Mu-077**

Overread wrote:
Farming would have huge areas of open fields - huge farming machines (titanic sized ones) as well as huge areas of processing and such. This area is likely a more urban region of the agriworld; so likely near to its landing and processing plants.

That is the factories that process the food into material to be shipped off world; the stores; the offworld landing pads; the generators and reactors to power everything.

Eh, fair enough, makes sense. Although it is still quite dissapointing.

**Arbitrator**

I'm surprised they're using what looks to be a Studio army rather than 'Eavy Metal stuff to round out the 'official Games Workshop(tm) production' look, at least for the first episode.

**DaveC**

Arbitrator wrote:
I'm surprised they're using what looks to be a Studio army rather than 'Eavy Metal stuff to round out the 'official Games Workshop(tm) production' look, at least for the first episode.

Nick confirmed that he is using his own Ultramarines army for the Battle reports. He also mentioned someone else in the studio lending their army as well. It may well be they want to show off their own stuff or the Eavy Metal armies might not contain what they want for the battle report - they only paint so much and the hobby team do other stuff for the background of the pictures where the detail isn't as important - I remember Peachy mentioning that they skipped details that they knew wouldn't be seen from a distance.

**tneva82**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

Also that's apparently supposed to take place on a "Rural Agri-World". Because when i think of a Rural planet filled with farms, what i picture is an empty industrial street with metal tiling, with generators, pipes, Churches and also random trenches. Look at it, there's not a single speck of dirt on that board!

Uuh...you weather your models before painting? Seeing paint covers it and you need weather again...whajt's the point?

You DO realize it's wip shot right? Nobody can miss that surely?

Again typical to you everything gw does is bad no matter what.

**Wha-Mu-077**

tneva82 wrote:
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

Also that's apparently supposed to take place on a "Rural Agri-World". Because when i think of a Rural planet filled with farms, what i picture is an empty industrial street with metal tiling, with generators, pipes, Churches and also random trenches. Look at it, there's not a single speck of dirt on that board!

Uuh...you weather your models before painting? Seeing paint covers it and you need weather again...whajt's the point?

The point is not that they're supposed to be weathered, the point is that it's supposed to be a rural Agri-World, and it looks like a poor man's industrial sector. Let's see one of the first Google results for "Rural setting"

**BrianDavion**

tneva82 wrote:
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

Also that's apparently supposed to take place on a "Rural Agri-World". Because when i think of a Rural planet filled with farms, what i picture is an empty industrial street with metal tiling, with generators, pipes, Churches and also random trenches. Look at it, there's not a single speck of dirt on that board!

Uuh...you weather your models before painting? Seeing paint covers it and you need weather again...whajt's the point?

You DO realize it's wip shot right? Nobody can miss that surely?

Again typical to you everything gw does is bad no matter what.

yeah it's kinda absurd to complaina bout the board's colours given it's obvious it hasn't been painted yet.

**Wha-Mu-077**

BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

Also that's apparently supposed to take place on a "Rural Agri-World". Because when i think of a Rural planet filled with farms, what i picture is an empty industrial street with metal tiling, with generators, pipes, Churches and also random trenches. Look at it, there's not a single speck of dirt on that board!

Uuh...you weather your models before painting? Seeing paint covers it and you need weather again...whajt's the point?

You DO realize it's wip shot right? Nobody can miss that surely?

Again typical to you everything gw does is bad no matter what.

yeah it's kinda absurd to complaina bout the board's colours given it's obvious it hasn't been painted yet.

And i find it kinda absurd how everyone completly misses my entire point.

**BrianDavion**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So there's an article on "Battle Report", which is a tremendously original title for their W+ battle report videos.

Here's their WIP table for the first one (DG vs Ultramarines):

First of all: I hope that's not it. Planet bowling ball is a bad start.

Secondly, it suddenly reminded me that every "Battle Report" is going to take place on a Realm of Battle board. Great...

Also that's apparently supposed to take place on a "Rural Agri-World". Because when i think of a Rural planet filled with farms, what i picture is an empty industrial street with metal tiling, with generators, pipes, Churches and also random trenches. Look at it, there's not a single speck of dirt on that board!

Uuh...you weather your models before painting? Seeing paint covers it and you need weather again...whajt's the point?

You DO realize it's wip shot right? Nobody can miss that surely?

Again typical to you everything gw does is bad no matter what.

yeah it's kinda absurd to complaina bout the board's colours given it's obvious it hasn't been painted yet.

And i find it kinda absurd how everyone completly misses my entire point.

your entire point is the same as it always is "GW BAD!"