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jullevi wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Apologies if this has already been covered in the thread, but does anybody know how many terrain sprues are included in the box?

I'm not that keen on the Tau or Sisters, I'm trying to work out if it would be worth it for me to buy a box just for the terrain? I'm assuming that I could sell each squad for around £30.

It looks like 5 large sprues of scenery (2x walls, 2x floors, 1x arches) and 6 small sprues (3 of each ruin sprue).

Thanks! Would love to get confirmation of this, it's definitely tempting me into a purchase now...

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

jullevi wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Apologies if this has already been covered in the thread, but does anybody know how many terrain sprues are included in the box?

I'm not that keen on the Tau or Sisters, I'm trying to work out if it would be worth it for me to buy a box just for the terrain? I'm assuming that I could sell each squad for around £30.

It looks like 5 large sprues of scenery (2x walls, 2x floors, 1x arches) and 6 small sprues (3 of each ruin sprue).

Thanks! Would love to get confirmation of this, it's definitely tempting me into a purchase now...

You can see the included sprues in the listing on GW.com, so we can definitely say there are five different sprues in the set.

Not sure if there are 3 of each ruins sprues, as only five small ruins are shown - having said that, I've no experience with these kits, so it might be a better question for someone like HBMC.

 Dysartes wrote:

You can see the included sprues in the listing on GW.com, so we can definitely say there are five different sprues in the set.

Not sure if there are 3 of each ruins sprues, as only five small ruins are shown - having said that, I've no experience with these kits, so it might be a better question for someone like HBMC.

As long as the picture matches the contents my numbers should be correct. Second level ruined walls are also made of ruins sprues, hence the large amount.

EDIT: Scenery content appears to be identical to original KT starter set from 2018.

Chalnath batrep from CanYouRollACrit




Finished watching. Novitiates held back for too long IMO, they shoulda tried to get to melee way earlier.

I don't agree with the host's "Faith points are way OP" opinion. The novitiates are pretty lackluster, so the faith points even out the odds. Indeed, giving faith points to regular SoB teams would result in cheese, but on the novitiates I think they are fine.

jullevi wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

You can see the included sprues in the listing on GW.com, so we can definitely say there are five different sprues in the set.

Not sure if there are 3 of each ruins sprues, as only five small ruins are shown - having said that, I've no experience with these kits, so it might be a better question for someone like HBMC.

As long as the picture matches the contents my numbers should be correct. Second level ruined walls are also made of ruins sprues, hence the large amount.

EDIT: Scenery content appears to be identical to original KT starter set from 2018.

Contents are correct. And occasionally the terrain gets put up on ebay for reasonable prices. Snapped up a few sets to continue project: massive city.

The Chalnath book seems to be around 30€ on ebay right now, kinda tempting. I'm leaning on just getting the book for now, I can always get the minis later when they become available as separate kits

Looking at the two box sets released so far, should Kill Team be looked at for samplers of what is forthcoming in 40K?

For example new Kommandos ahead of the Ork codex, Pathfinders upgrade ahead of new Tau codex next year. The DKoK is ahead of a release of plastic kits for IG if the rumours are correct. SoB are the outliers as they were years without new releases and follow up on plastic kits finally being released.

That was the suggestion/insinuation from the Warhammer Community presenters when Octarius got revealed.

 Kanluwen wrote:
That was the suggestion/insinuation from the Warhammer Community presenters when Octarius got revealed.

Sa I have a guess for next year based on the rumours, a KT box with either new Chaos cultists or Renegade IG and a box with new Eldar.

3ldar Rangers would make an ideal new kill team release.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
3ldar Rangers would make an ideal new kill team release.

We definitely did see an Aeldari Ranger arming a mine in the Rumor Engine...

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
3ldar Rangers would make an ideal new kill team release.

We definitely did see an Aeldari Ranger arming a mine in the Rumor Engine...

I really want to see an Eldar demolitions expert. 9 rangers all sleek with long rifles and cam cloaks, then a blocky one loaded down with pouches, bombs, grenades, psywire and detonators...

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
3ldar Rangers would make an ideal new kill team release.

We definitely did see an Aeldari Ranger arming a mine in the Rumor Engine...

I really want to see an Eldar demolitions expert. 9 rangers all sleek with long rifles and cam cloaks, then a blocky one loaded down with pouches, bombs, grenades, psywire and detonators...

I really hope it comes with a full team review, if it’s just the rangers I feel it just going to be a bit of a pain.

Kill Team will bring us plastic Rangers. The big box release of them plus someone else will give 40K players new models. Cynicism aside, a team like Kommandos, Veteran Guard and even the Pathfinders with accessory sprue is exactly the model I'd expect for the Rangers. Had to see dude(tte)s with sniper rifles, some specialists include sappers, saboteurs and at least one melee one. I don't know why the rumoured Warlock/Farseer would be in their box as they aren't intrinsic to the unit an GW seems to have shied away from Starstriders type teams.

And speaking of which, when will GW give the Starstriders the WD treatment? Unless they plan to sneak them into big box with something else...

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
I don't know why the rumoured Warlock/Farseer would be in their box as they aren't intrinsic to the unit an GW seems to have shied away from Starstriders type teams.

And speaking of which, when will GW give the Starstriders the WD treatment? Unless they plan to sneak them into big box with something else...

Do the Gellerpox have KT rules for this edition, out of interest?

No and considering that the box is no longer available, the chances are slim at best. Sad fact on GW side, Chaos would have a massive store if they had ever released the multitude of models individually that came out in boxed sets. Nothing stops you from designing house rules of course. The rule set for the Plaque Marines would be an obvious starting point.

I wouldn't say no, given that Rogue Trader crews are getting rules in Octarius Book II.

Purportedly, the Gellerpox, Starstriders, and Inquisition will all be getting KT rules.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I wouldn't say no, given that Rogue Trader crews are getting rules in Octarius Book II.

Wait, what?

I wouldn't get too excited. Given the models as they are we should expect something along the lines of:

"A Rogue Trader Armsmen unit consists of 5 models. One model is armed with a Shotgun, 3 models are armed with Lasguns, and one model has a Gatling Whatever. All models have Laspistols."

They'll end up even more limited than Inquisitorial Acolytes.

 Crimson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I wouldn't say no, given that Rogue Trader crews are getting rules in Octarius Book II.

Wait, what?

Yup.

Such is the danger the Imperium finds itself in that even Rogue Traders, normally content to watch from the sidelines for a quick profit, are committing their own forces to the Cordon’s defence. With two datasheets and a cargo hold of exotic Crusade rules of their own, this is the perfect opportunity to field your Rogue Trader models in games of Warhammer 40,000, or to convert your own personalised crew.

The Rogue Traders can be equipped in 3 different ways, matching up to the 3 RT models we've gotten.
Voidsmen at Arms can for every 1 in 5 take a Rotor Cannon, but they get Lasguns as standard and the Voidmaster at Arms has the Shotgun+Laspistol combo to match the model. Also, rules for the doggo.

Oh, cool! That they mention converting your own crews kinda gets my hopes up, but I'm afraid HBMC's pessimism might be warranted.

1 Voidmaster and 4-9 Voidsmen.
1 in 5 can take a Rotor Cannon.
Voidmaster has to have the Artificer Shotgun and Laspistol.
The rest get Lasguns.
Canid is an option for the squad.

I wouldn't exactly call that super restrictive.

I will say that the House Greim Military Attache set for Necromunda seems tailormade for this.

So it's the old Kill Team RT team, except no specialists (assassin, medic) but this time you at least have a variable squad size and aren't forced to field exactly the contents of one sprue? It's an improvement at least.

From what I saw in the video review that GMG had, yup!

Sounds like an improvement and hopefully you get some flexibility on your Rogue Trader since we had two other models and loadouts available via BSF

Astra Cartographia? Space Map Makers? Space Explorers more likely.

I don't remember seeing it mentioned before, anyone else seen it?


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
So it's the old Kill Team RT team, except no specialists (assassin, medic) but this time you at least have a variable squad size and aren't forced to field exactly the contents of one sprue? It's an improvement at least.

For what it's worth the art includes some of the other characters which would give you a medic, tech priest etc.

But explorers make maps, and maps are much more useful for the Imperium than whatever little fiddling the actual explorers manage to slot in the sidelines. Basically the Ordnance Survey in space.

If someone in the Imperium was doing their job properly regarding the survey results, we wouldn't've ended up with the Tau.

Very unfortunate that they weren't.

Anyone know when the RT crews are going on sale?

I see the book is already up for preorder.

No indication that the crews are going up for sale anytime soon.