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 Kanluwen wrote:
All I know is that the guy wielding the twin-pronged sword here is having a great Monday!

Does it bother anyone else that there is no way he could have drawn that pistol with the hand holding it? No? Just me?

 Lord Blackscale wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All I know is that the guy wielding the twin-pronged sword here is having a great Monday!

Does it bother anyone else that there is no way he could have drawn that pistol with the hand holding it? No? Just me?

It's not like that plasma pistol even fits inside that holster anyways.

Maybe he drew the pistol with the other hand and swapped before drawing the sword?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lord Blackscale wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All I know is that the guy wielding the twin-pronged sword here is having a great Monday!

Does it bother anyone else that there is no way he could have drawn that pistol with the hand holding it? No? Just me?

It's not like that plasma pistol even fits inside that holster anyways.

Nor does a bolt pistol. But that's just a matter of convention. Look at that Primaris shield guys and their humongous pistol holster that may actually fit their oversized pistols. I can appreciate that GW does not oversize non-Primaris pistol holsters. Because frankly those Primaris ones are one of the stupidest things about GW's heroic scale.

I don't know the kit, so I don't know if there are any left-handed pistol arms in there. If there are, this model is just poorly assembled. If there aren't, that's something the designer should have considered when placing the holster.

Are we seriously considering it impossible for chaos marines to pass things between hands? I mean I know the guy is mutated, but come on…

It's unnecessarily impractical for a professional warrior. And impractical isn't the problematic part of that.

Maybe he’s a lefty, so holsters the pistol on His strong side, but at this point also needed to draw his sword on his dominant side. Maybe he needed to aim around a left hand corner and swapped hands. I just think it’s needlessly critical to judge the quality of the modeller or the sculptor on the specific position of holster compared to current pistol location.

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he’s a lefty, so holsters the pistol on His strong side, but at this point also needed to draw his sword on his dominant side. Maybe he needed to aim around a left hand corner and swapped hands. I just think it’s needlessly critical to judge the quality of the modeller or the sculptor on the specific position of holster compared to current pistol location.

It's perfectly normal to have a gun on the other side of the body from the hand that will use it... but then the holster is the other way around (cross draw holster). They way that's put is for using the gun with the left hand.

In a time when these little addon bits are integrated into the relevant body parts instead of being separate pieces you can attach wherever you like, I don't find it unnecessarily critical to expect some thought from the manufacturer to go into these things.

Another example? Novitiates have integrated, empty pistol holsters. Which is fine if you build them with pistols and swords equipped. If you equip them with the basic loadout instead, their autoguns are supposed to be supplemented with holstered autopistols. Yet the holsters are empty. Why aren't there pistol grip inserts that can be glued into the holsters on the sprue? It would make sense to have those, and not take up much sprue space at that. Did nobody think of that? Were they really that hard up for sprue space?

It's not the end of the world. I'm not asking for the sculptors to be lynched or anything. But these things stand out to me so why wouldn't I point them out?

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he’s a lefty

SM are ambidextrous

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he’s a lefty

SM are ambidextrous

Just because your equally skilled with both hands doesn’t mean you don’t have a preference.

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he drew the pistol with the other hand and swapped before drawing the sword?

However he did it, he‘s clearly having a great day at work!

 Lord Blackscale wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All I know is that the guy wielding the twin-pronged sword here is having a great Monday!

Does it bother anyone else that there is no way he could have drawn that pistol with the hand holding it? No? Just me?

He is clearly too happy to care about your "physics" or "reality".

TheGoodGerman wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he drew the pistol with the other hand and swapped before drawing the sword?

However he did it, he‘s clearly having a great day at work!

There's been fluff about people maging their weapons to their armor.

I honestly hate when models have holsters pre-attached to their armor. It's something the chaos space marines suffer from a lot. One of the worst examples is the Chosen Champion. He's got an empty holster on his belt, but unless you decide to give him a bolt pistol, it just makes no sense. You can't even try to model a grip in the holster, because they also crammed a bunch of pouches and grenades on his belt that are connected to and overlap the holster.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

TheGoodGerman wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he drew the pistol with the other hand and swapped before drawing the sword?

However he did it, he‘s clearly having a great day at work!

There's been fluff about people maging their weapons to their armor.

Yup. Clearly the gun just clamps onto his right thigh and the holster is for something else. Could even just be a big ol’ pouch of course since we can’t see the other side of it. Question is what is in there? Lunch? Tzeenchian tarot cards (they all say “just as planned” but in different fonts and languages)?

It's a modern day chaos marine; they're not just spikey normal marines anymore. For all we know, he has a sentient rectal demon tentacle that draws it for him.

I'm fine with empty or wrong-sized holsters. Even if I go on a 3-hour larp adventure, chances are I will have drawn, dropped, picked up, and swapped hands with every weapon I'm carrying, at least three times each. Some of these dudes have been on an even tougher larp for like 10,000 years. Who knows how many pistols and holsters they've owned, drawn, shot, broken while braining a Catachan with, etc.

Basic Chosen Tactics 101. They each draw their pistols from the holster of the guy standing to their right. The last guy on the right is always the chaincannon. Now that's fething teamwork!

 Geifer wrote:

Another example? Novitiates have integrated, empty pistol holsters. Which is fine if you build them with pistols and swords equipped. If you equip them with the basic loadout instead, their autoguns are supposed to be supplemented with holstered autopistols. Yet the holsters are empty. Why aren't there pistol grip inserts that can be glued into the holsters on the sprue? It would make sense to have those, and not take up much sprue space at that. Did nobody think of that? Were they really that hard up for sprue space?

One of the novitiates - the one drawing her sword - does have that pistol grip insert included.

The greatest part of the novitiates is that they alone in the grim darkness of the far future practice trigger discipline!

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Basic Chosen Tactics 101. They each draw their pistols from the holster of the guy standing to their right. The last guy on the right is always the chaincannon. Now that's fething teamwork!

I really want that to be canon now.

Would that make it chain canon?

 Flinty wrote:
Would that make it chain canon?

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

This One Rule Will Have your Corsair Kill Teams Running Rings Around Their Opponents

Given these rules previews, I won't be surprised if the KT box shows up in the Sunday pre-order preview this week.

 Dysartes wrote:
This One Rule Will Have your Corsair Kill Teams Running Rings Around Their Opponents

Given these rules previews, I won't be surprised if the KT box shows up in the Sunday pre-order preview this week.

I thought now starts a two week preorder for Cursed City rerun though? Would be glad to be wrong however.

Guess one might not invalidate the other regardless..

Cursed City starts a two week Made To Order run tomorrow - it was in the video for last Sunday's pre-order preview article.

Kill Team coming would explain the lack of releases last week. Gotta have people ready to spend two weeks worth of moolah.

Could also be Eldar, though they're probably not getting a second wave till April

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The greatest part of the novitiates is that they alone in the grim darkness of the far future practice trigger discipline!

Aw, you have to cut them some slack. They're young and they don't know any better. They'll loosen up in time and show the same rampart disregard for the lives of their fellow humans like everyone else in the Imperium.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Maybe he’s a lefty, so holsters the pistol on His strong side, but at this point also needed to draw his sword on his dominant side. Maybe he needed to aim around a left hand corner and swapped hands. I just think it’s needlessly critical to judge the quality of the modeller or the sculptor on the specific position of holster compared to current pistol location.

It's perfectly normal to have a gun on the other side of the body from the hand that will use it... but then the holster is the other way around (cross draw holster). They way that's put is for using the gun with the left hand.

Nope. There are multiple reasons why you would want the holster facing that way even for off hand (for a very big one, because it makes drawing the sword vastly more practical, and was in fact preferred cavalrymen way of holstering weapons for hundreds of years), and equally multiple techniques to draw it (see demonstrations here):

https://www.thearmorylife.com/could-you-weak-hand-draw-if-you-had-to/

I like how GW is constantly criticized for being unrealistic, but recently, it seems the stuff that gets endlessly complained about and criticized the most is how real life armed forces actually do/design stuff, funnily enough

 Dysartes wrote:
This One Rule Will Have your Corsair Kill Teams Running Rings Around Their Opponents

Given these rules previews, I won't be surprised if the KT box shows up in the Sunday pre-order preview this week.

The last strat in that article. The one that lets you dash in the strategy phase; does that extra dash actually mean you can dash twice in a turn as the article implies?