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To compare future of Warcry and future of Kill Team articles:

WARCRY
Warcry will now follow in the footsteps of Kill Team, with new boxed sets every three months. Each box will contain more scenery that takes you even deeper into the twisted forests of Ghur.

What’s more, each one will contain two brand-new warbands. Yes, brand-new – no upgrade sprues, no existing kits.

KILL TEAM
There are more expansion boxes on the way too – each containing two full kill teams, more unique terrain, new missions, and new rules.

I wonder if there is a reason why brand-new - no upgrade sprues, no existing kits is mentioned in Warcry article but not Kill Team. Should we expect more upgrade sprue Kill Teams?

chaos0xomega wrote:
What would a daemon kill team look like?

*wavy dream sequence*

"In 972.M41, a daemon warband was banished to the Immaterium by the Grey Knights for crimes against the Imperium. These daemons promptly escaped from the Warp to the space hulk Gallowdark. Today, still hunted by the Ordo Malleus, they survive as agents of Chaos. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can bind them....maybe you can enter into a blasphemous pact with The Undivided-Team."

Khornate Daemon: *wakes up* What happened? Where am I? *gets enraged* How did I get here?
Slaaneshi Daemon: We're on a ship.
Nurglite Daemon: *cackles gleefully* On a... *Slaaneshi Daemon glares at him*
Slaaneshi Daemon: It's a ship, happily sailing away. Just sailing.
Khornate Daemon: You put me on a spaceship, fool! Spaceships fly!
Tzeentchian Daemon: *lights cigar* I love it when things go Just As Planned (TzeentchM)

You're giving me ideas. Don't give me ideas! I have too many models to work on as is!

I wouldn't be surprised if the current trend of upgrade packs continues. I would also expect a new starter set with a stripped down version of the new box later this year

jullevi wrote:
To compare future of Warcry and future of Kill Team articles:

WARCRY
Warcry will now follow in the footsteps of Kill Team, with new boxed sets every three months. Each box will contain more scenery that takes you even deeper into the twisted forests of Ghur.

What’s more, each one will contain two brand-new warbands. Yes, brand-new – no upgrade sprues, no existing kits.

KILL TEAM
There are more expansion boxes on the way too – each containing two full kill teams, more unique terrain, new missions, and new rules.

I wonder if there is a reason why brand-new - no upgrade sprues, no existing kits is mentioned in Warcry article but not Kill Team. Should we expect more upgrade sprue Kill Teams?

I think that is a fairly safe bet. There's only so much that can be done in terms of providing a unique kill team/complete new kit in some ranges that wouldn't step on the role of already established units lore wise. Whilst is may have been nice to have a unique Phobos kill team of unique sculpts, same with chaos marines, or tau pathfinders, the upgrade sprues provide as much diversity.

I also can't see them fleshing out too many niche individual factions with a squad too much.

The only time I can perceive a completely new kit of already existing units being made is if the unit itself is getting a new kit.

jullevi wrote:
To compare future of Warcry and future of Kill Team articles:

WARCRY
Warcry will now follow in the footsteps of Kill Team, with new boxed sets every three months. Each box will contain more scenery that takes you even deeper into the twisted forests of Ghur.

What’s more, each one will contain two brand-new warbands. Yes, brand-new – no upgrade sprues, no existing kits.

KILL TEAM
There are more expansion boxes on the way too – each containing two full kill teams, more unique terrain, new missions, and new rules.

I wonder if there is a reason why brand-new - no upgrade sprues, no existing kits is mentioned in Warcry article but not Kill Team. Should we expect more upgrade sprue Kill Teams?

I mean Kasrkin are going to be a Guard unit and have Space Hulk bases, so there's at least one upgrade sprue unit. If Votan sneak in I expect the same there too - new kits but upgrade sprue for a unit rather than Kill team unique.

As for Daemons, I could easily see a Nighthaunt style ghost ship rather than a band of lesser deamons. Or Enslavers (there's a few Rogue Trader era warp creatures that are technically unaligned, less obviously aligned daemons - psychneunin, vampires, enslavers and the Rogue Trader RPG added more).

Kasrkin aren't "space hulk" bases. They're rubbled up streets...owing to the fact that they showcase them on Zone Mortalis tiles.

They're based entirely separately to the rest of the army, despite being in the same camo colours.

They might be fighting on a different battlemat (a hanger, or engine room with floor markings), but they're definitely going to be for Kill Team or some other spin off.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Kasrkin aren't "space hulk" bases. They're rubbled up streets...owing to the fact that they showcase them on Zone Mortalis tiles.

They're on bases that look identical to the other kill team bases and do not match the other guard units in the picture. Add that to the existing leaks of a Kasrkin kill team and it's very obvious that one is coming and the only inaccuracy in the leak was about the exact release order.

I hope some of the new terrain includes Imperial sector type stuff, or maybe Fronteris or Indomitus style.

The new terrain sets are going to be Space Hulk based to keep up with the theme of the boxed set. roughly half of what's in the game box will be in the upcoming warzone set, to add on to an already affected Hulk... different levels, and ladders was mentioned.

There's supposed to be a follow on for the Rogue Trader set that came out in Kill Team 1, and the updated rules for the Geller Pox, and the Rogue Trader Crew in the compendium, or somewhere coming up soon-ish. THIS iteration of Kill Team is based on the Space Hulk: Gallowdark, so all the scenery and warzone sets are supposed to be based around aspects of Space Hulks. Shadow Vaults, Soulshackle, and Gallowfall are some of the names of the sets , so far.
There's another Season locals campaign going on, as well.

I had a friend of a friends tell me about some Squats, too. Newer ones later in the year.

Of course, you didn't hear it from me.

I've got a couple of the new Chaos Legionary kill teams. The kits are quite impressive, enough for me to add 1 each to a Word Bearer army, AND the Black Legion.


References...
Friend of a Fiend who... knows some stuff, but BS's other stuff. So you take what they say with a truck of salt licks.
https://warhammer40000.com/kill-team/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/25/the-kill-team-roadmap-explore-ever-deeper-into-the-gallowdark/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/04/kill-team-into-the-dark-whats-in-the-box/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/24/join-the-imperial-navy-discover-ancient-xenos-cultures-and-destroy-them/

Then this one for a snack. Never let it be said that Caesar is not generous with his gifts.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/16/download-the-core-rules-for-kill-team-and-a-new-intercessor-team-for-free/

...Grot, do you smell burnt toast?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or maybe they'll do for KT what they just did for Warcry, and give the names of the next 3 boxes but no details beyond that.

Oh my God I'm a psychic!!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Scouts could do with a refresh. More variation, more weapons, less man-chin.

By my mother's mandible! How dare you.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or maybe they'll do for KT what they just did for Warcry, and give the names of the next 3 boxes but no details beyond that.

Oh my God I'm a psychic!!!

That's about as psychic as reading the weekly paper and then declaring that next week will also have news, sports, and comics

Nice to see GW showcasing conversions. The assassin isn't holding a head, the tech-priest guy has a different head, etc. Also fun to see the fantastic FW World Eater head upgrade being used. Though it looks like the marines are the Corpus Brethern, who are a nurgle warband. Not sure why they'd have a Khornate guy...

They might be the personal armies of people at the studio. They do that sometimes.

 Jack Flask wrote:
That's about as psychic as reading the weekly paper and then declaring that next week will also have news, sports, and comics

Not really. What I said would happen is exactly what happened. I made that prediction because I have exceptionally low expectations of GW, and they always strive to meet if not fall short of those expectations, every time.

That and you clearly haven't got a funny bone in your entire body...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or maybe they'll do for KT what they just did for Warcry, and give the names of the next 3 boxes but no details beyond that.

Oh my God I'm a psychic!!!

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So the Gellerpox Infected, the Rogue Trader crew and the Traitor Comissar & Ogryn came into KT. Odds on the BSF adventurers and Zoat popping up somewhere?

Those CSM look gorgeous in white

A cultists if the abyss kill Team with beast men, the traitor guard and a space marine would make a fun team.

 tauist wrote:

The new campaign system for IttD might already have some familar aspects of that system, who knows... Oh man, ASC was such an awesome game..

Conversely, my memory of it was picking lists (from WD) and playing a full game... that took 3 days. Wow grinding through that ship was time consuming.

JWBS wrote:
I hope some of the new terrain includes Imperial sector type stuff, or maybe Fronteris or Indomitus style.

I mean killteam is clearly going to stay within variations of space hulk kff the next year.
However 40K is due some new terrain soon mainly because they completely butchered all existing terrain. It’s the first time in forever I haven’t seen Gw sell any decent kind of sight blocking terrain for 40K.

Three boxes a year, eh? Six teams?

Took me almost a year to paint up the Octarius box and the two teams that came with it.

So if I spend 100% of my hobby time on KT, I might get to play one set of scenarios per season, one year after release (basically at the same time they are replaced by the new season).

This pace of releases is crazy, and this is just one of the (minor) game systems.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Three boxes a year, eh? Six teams?

Took me almost a year to paint up the Octarius box and the two teams that came with it.

So if I spend 100% of my hobby time on KT, I might get to play one set of scenarios per season, one year after release (basically at the same time they are replaced by the new season).

This pace of releases is crazy, and this is just one of the (minor) game systems.

The pace is pretty hectic, agreed. My approach has been to buy all the books and Killzones from the first Season into reserva, now I have rest of my life to finish making all that terrain LOL. I see KT21 as a system I can be playing for years to come, even if they stopped here, there is already quite a lot of content for it. If you play all the missions with all the bespoke teams, that'll take a while to plow through.. Combining all that with 40K Crusade and we're talking years if not a decade of replayability..

gungo wrote:

However 40K is due some new terrain soon mainly because they completely butchered all existing terrain. It’s the first time in forever I haven’t seen Gw sell any decent kind of sight blocking terrain for 40K.

Is the Land Raider out of stock?!?


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 Oguhmek wrote:
Three boxes a year, eh? Six teams?

Took me almost a year to paint up the Octarius box and the two teams that came with it.

So if I spend 100% of my hobby time on KT, I might get to play one set of scenarios per season, one year after release (basically at the same time they are replaced by the new season).

This pace of releases is crazy, and this is just one of the (minor) game systems.

Yes. It is pretty much enough for the average gamers to have all their hobby time devoted to just this system.

I would have been happy with 1 box set a year of new terrain and 2 teams, 1 new team a quarter after that (maybe in the style of the old KT with a bit of terrain and mission building on the box set) and a steady stream of decent legacy teams in WD (so Box, WD, Gap, Team, WD, Gap, Team, WD, Gap, Team, compendium with new team). Its great they are supporting it, but I can't see how it isn't crowding out their other products?

In this 'space' (small model count games) they have Underworlds, Warcry, 'Quest, Blood Bowl, Necromunda, AI and AT. Necro is getting lots of releases, Underworlds and warcry and hanging in there, Blood Bowl comes and goes, 'Quest is a bit messed up and AI and AT may start to sell again. Still its a big roster with more released than you can keep up with in a year, and that is assuming you don't play AoS or 40K. Even if you think fantasy players don't do the 40k stuff, that still leaves a fair amount of cross over with Necro?

As a random tossout, there was a rumour of an Explorator Kill-Team in the last edition. Might crop up here instead?
That said, I think Kill Team and WarCry are different beasts. Simply adding sprues to AoS kits doesn't make a new "feel" to a unit used as a base like it does for KT.

 GaroRobe wrote:

so 3D terrain means whatever they showcase is never released?

Is it too much to hope for that we get a Hrud kill team? It's pure speculation, but the fact that they mention in today's article that Ambull, clawed fiends, and necrons have all been released and then say "wonder whos next?" when showing that old image gives me hope.

Sadly though, kill teams all fit in existing factions and unless they count as Tau auxiliary, Hruds are factionless

 GaroRobe wrote:
Is it too much to hope for that we get a Hrud kill team? It's pure speculation, but the fact that they mention in today's article that Ambull, clawed fiends, and necrons have all been released and then say "wonder whos next?" when showing that old image gives me hope.

Sadly though, kill teams all fit in existing factions and unless they count as Tau auxiliary, Hruds are factionless

Kill Team would be as much a natural home for those without a Codex as Warhammer Quest, as their presence doesn’t really require them to be a galactic mover and shaker.

Where's that art of 4 differently adapated kroot from in the latest article? I've not seen that before.