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2021/10/08 18:17:37
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Las wrote: Do we know if neophytes are optional in squads or are they required?
If they're anything like the OG crusader squads, they should be optional, but with how GW makes their kits nowadays I could see that changing to have them require a mandatory base amount for baseline squads.
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2021/10/08 18:20:43
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Dysartes wrote: *looks at the sample army list in today's WHC article*
...what's a Neopyte?
A scout attached to a specific Initiate to serve and learn under in a Crusader Squad.
I thought that was a Neophyte?
Initiate is the rookie marine, neophyte is the Scout squire who follows the Initiate.
He was pointing out the spelling mistake in the article....look out for DakkaJets
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2021/10/08 20:01:30
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Las wrote: Do we know if neophytes are optional in squads or are they required?
The same rumours that got essentially everything right said that they are a mandatory part of Primaris Crusader squads. That may not be the case for Firstborn Crusader squads though.
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2021/10/08 21:19:40
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Las wrote: Do we know if neophytes are optional in squads or are they required?
The same rumours that got essentially everything right said that they are a mandatory part of Primaris Crusader squads. That may not be the case for Firstborn Crusader squads though.
I see. I wonder if we'll still have access to vanilla intercessor squads?
Thought for the day
2021/10/08 21:26:57
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Las wrote: Do we know if neophytes are optional in squads or are they required?
The same rumours that got essentially everything right said that they are a mandatory part of Primaris Crusader squads. That may not be the case for Firstborn Crusader squads though.
I see. I wonder if we'll still have access to vanilla intercessor squads?
That's all but confirmed, given how you get them in the Combat Patrol: Black Templars.
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2021/10/08 21:41:55
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
That's pretty funny because the Sword Brother is an optional build for the squad, but the kit doesn't supply you with enough 32mm bases to build him as an Initiate.
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2021/10/08 22:00:26
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Marshal Loss wrote: That's pretty funny because the Sword Brother is an optional build for the squad, but the kit doesn't supply you with enough 32mm bases to build him as an Initiate.
Watch GW make him an optional build but force you to take him rulewise.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
2021/10/08 22:07:14
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Marshal Loss wrote: That's pretty funny because the Sword Brother is an optional build for the squad, but the kit doesn't supply you with enough 32mm bases to build him as an Initiate.
Watch GW make him an optional build but force you to take him rulewise.
I think you are forced to take him in a 10 man squad, but if you build a 20 man squad you'll only ever have one - so if somebody buys two boxes to make a full-size Crusader Squad, they'll end up a 32mm base short.
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2021/10/08 22:13:32
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Prometheum5 wrote: Today's army showcase article mentions that there's enough chained weapons on the Crusader Squad sprues to outfit your Intercessors as well, which makes me think the whole Combat Patrol can be built with BT bits on every figure (Crusader Squad, 5 Intercessors, upgrade sprue). I am hoping BT are going to get some Kill Team rules that would make the CP box everything you need (plus an Impulsor).
I've listed what the crusader squad got a bit earlier and saying that there's enough chained weapon to outfit the intersesors is "technically true"... if you want your crusader to use guns rather than swords... which doesn't seem to be the optimal choice.
Spoiler:
I'm glad to see the left hand is separate so we can give him a more imposing clenched fist rather than the weird open hand with rosarius... just a shame they didn't provide said clenched fist on the sprue.
I also like the fact that the shoulder pads are separate, this will met give him a little more pimp that thos rather generic black templar shoulders (again, Forge of Mars is delivering where GW didn't).
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2021/10/08 22:15:19
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Prometheum5 wrote: Today's army showcase article mentions that there's enough chained weapons on the Crusader Squad sprues to outfit your Intercessors as well, which makes me think the whole Combat Patrol can be built with BT bits on every figure (Crusader Squad, 5 Intercessors, upgrade sprue). I am hoping BT are going to get some Kill Team rules that would make the CP box everything you need (plus an Impulsor).
I've listed what the crusader squad got a bit earlier and saying that there's enough chained weapon to outfit the intersesors is "technically true"... if you want your crusader to use guns rather than swords... which doesn't seem to be the optimal choice.
Based on the list I was assuming you'd use the chainswords and pistols on the Crusaders and the chained Auto Bolt Rifles on an Intercessor squad.
Prometheum5 wrote: Today's army showcase article mentions that there's enough chained weapons on the Crusader Squad sprues to outfit your Intercessors as well, which makes me think the whole Combat Patrol can be built with BT bits on every figure (Crusader Squad, 5 Intercessors, upgrade sprue). I am hoping BT are going to get some Kill Team rules that would make the CP box everything you need (plus an Impulsor).
I've listed what the crusader squad got a bit earlier and saying that there's enough chained weapon to outfit the intersesors is "technically true"... if you want your crusader to use guns rather than swords... which doesn't seem to be the optimal choice.
If you get your Crusaders to use all-Chainswords then you'll have 6 Crusader Marine-size Bolters leftover for your Intercessors. Or if you equip your Crusaders with all-Bolters you'll get 6 Marine-sized pairs of Chainswords+Pistols to turn your Intercessors into Assault Intercessors.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
2021/10/08 22:22:36
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Based on the list I was assuming you'd use the chainswords and pistols on the Crusaders and the chained Auto Bolt Rifles on an Intercessor squad.
Works too... but isn't the intercessor squad in the box an assault one?
Edit: Oh nevermind they are indeed standard intercessor (tbh it doesn't really matter, it's just a weapon swap between the two anyway).
2021/10/09 00:41:18
Subject: Re:Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
beast_gts wrote: So three different base sizes in the same unit - that's a first, isn't it?
Nope. Almost all of the Warcry bands got there a while back. The Unmade actually have 4: 25s, 28s, a 32 and a 40.
Yeah but those aren't really regular units. Just a warband from an entirely different game loosely cobbled together into something vaguely resembling an AoS unit.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
2021/10/09 01:12:29
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
My sword brethren are getting put on 32s, regardless of the base they come with. Same with bladeguard and lieutenants. 40s are for gravis, terminators, and primaris captains.
2021/10/09 01:15:30
Subject: Re:Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
beast_gts wrote: So three different base sizes in the same unit - that's a first, isn't it?
Nope. Almost all of the Warcry bands got there a while back. The Unmade actually have 4: 25s, 28s, a 32 and a 40.
Yeah but those aren't really regular units. Just a warband from an entirely different game loosely cobbled together into something vaguely resembling an AoS unit.
He asked for units that had multiple base sizes, not a 'no true scotsman' argument about what's a 'real' unit.
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2021/10/09 03:26:25
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Ok, so the sprue has 3 Marines and 2 Scouts, and the Sword Brother isn't a whole model, just parts to make one of the regular Marines into the squad leader. And you get two of these sprues. The lack of weapons on the sprue makes sense now.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: If you get your Crusaders to use all-Chainswords then you'll have 6 Crusader Marine-size Bolters leftover for your Intercessors. Or if you equip your Crusaders with all-Bolters you'll get 6 Marine-sized pairs of Chainswords+Pistols to turn your Intercessors into Assault Intercessors.
chaos0xomega wrote: Hey maybe you gents can help me out - in one of the older codexes or rulebooks (I think Codex: Space Marines circa 4th/5th edition, but I'm not positive) I recall there being an image, it was either a painted miniature or a color plate of a Black Templar in a "half-and-half" black and white color scheme (i.e. draw a vertical line down the middle, one side was black the other side was white. IIRC it was accompanied by some flavor text that said something to the effect of "High Marshal So-and-so in the distinctive half and half color scheme of his crusading fleet" or something like that. I've been trying to find that image for reference for a few days now and having no luck, don't remember the name or title of the marine (pretty sure it was a High Marshal but not positive) or anything else really other than the fact that I thought it looked cool and I told myself that if I ever did Templars I would try to do them in that color scheme. Would love it if someone could post the image or at least point me in the right direction of finding it myself.
I don't remember ever seeing Black Templars painted like that in a GW publication. Are you sure that it was Black Templars? Halved black and white is the color scheme of Omega Marines, and while I'm not sure when they were first published, they did feature in the color plates of Insignium Astartes that was released around 4th ed.
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2021/10/09 10:13:34
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
2021/10/09 10:21:16
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.
Thought for the day 
