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Eldenfirefly wrote:

Lascannons feel ridiculously weak right now.

What are the odds they bring back the classic 2D6 Lascannon damage for 10E

Eldenfirefly wrote:
Latest rumor is that Fire dragons fire pike weapon is a D6+4 damage weapon ! Wow... the damage inflation ...

Lascannons feel ridiculously weak right now.

Right now? Between the changes to melta and Dark Lances, they've felt weak for a while now. My Blood Ravens hardly touch them.

Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

 dan2026 wrote:
Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

Im very happy with my metals tbh.
They could always do a MTO run of metals

 dan2026 wrote:
Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

Well they did say there's a new Aspect Warrior being shown next week.

 Argive wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

Im very happy with my metals tbh.
They could always do a MTO run of metals

Fire Dragons are what caused me to swear off finecast.

In this brave new world of plastic, I think there will be plenty of kitbashing opportunities.

But GW could make bank with metal MTO of the aspects not getting updated. Doing so would be an admission of fault, so will never happen. Unless they went back to the old metals that pre-date the conversion of the modern sculpts.

dan2026 wrote:Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

The current models are still good if you can find them in metal. I just ordered some off of Ebay. There are also some very good alternatives from Artel W.

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Well they did say there's a new Aspect Warrior being shown next week.

Everything points to it being Dark Reapers, not Fire Dragons.

 dan2026 wrote:
Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

No chance of converting some?

 vipoid wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Sucks as there is no way I'm going to use Fire Dragons unless they get new models.

No chance of converting some?

That's an idea. Getting the right helmets would be a trick, but fusion guns from the new guardians, and bodies from the Banshees or other new aspect could work.

Regarding the Toughness 4 on Dragons:
I could see this make sense for Dragons as they deal with fire and thus may be a bit more inured to pain.
It's the same reason DE Wracks are T4, because they are used to torture.
It may also be that the Fire Dragon armour has built in fire-proofing that makes them a bit tougher.

But with all Aspects getting a 5++, I kinda hope not all Aspects are getting T4, although you could certainly justify it for some. Reapers could be T4 just like Havocs are T5, Spears are on Bikes, Spiders have the big jump generator, etc.

But Hawks & Banshees need to stay T3 to represent their light and nimble nature.
Scorpions too, probably. Heavy things don't make the best for stealth.

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Eldenfirefly wrote:
Latest rumor is that Fire dragons fire pike weapon is a D6+4 damage weapon ! Wow... the damage inflation ...

Lascannons feel ridiculously weak right now.

This is the same damage as a heavy melta rifle, and is limited to the Exarch.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Eldenfirefly wrote:
Latest rumor is that Fire dragons fire pike weapon is a D6+4 damage weapon ! Wow... the damage inflation ...

Lascannons feel ridiculously weak right now.

Right now? Between the changes to melta and Dark Lances, they've felt weak for a while now. My Blood Ravens hardly touch them.

if those, how does one put it ? Acquirers of rare antiquities aren't interested that's a bad sign

 The Red Hobbit wrote:

 Hellebore wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope there's an explanation for T4.

T3 Eldar has been a pretty solid universal constant for many'a decade.

A couple of theories:

1: it's a mistake
2: all aspects are now Sv 3+ and T4 is what 'heavy' aspect armour now is (so scorpions, spiders, reapers and dragons would be T4 with this rule).
3: its a purely dragon feature of the aspect. if this is true then scorpions may be S4 standard


Personally I am hoping they've pushed all aspects to Sv3+ and heavy armour is T4, because 4+ saves on expensive elite units with T3 and W1 is not very survivable.

I'm hoping it's #2 as well. GW has been raising toughness this edition and we've already got a precedent with Gravis Armor giving +1T. T4 and 5++ will go a long way towards making Aspects survivable, I'm looking forward to running mine again!

All the guns in codexes before, like, orks are getting mega devalued though.

stratigo wrote:


All the guns in codexes before, like, orks are getting mega devalued though.

Pretty sure the Ork Codex giving a ton of Ork guns non-synergistic "Rapid Fire But Worse" and swapping most of the rest from Assault to Heavy did way more to devalue Ork guns than this would.

"Their arrogance is matched only by their firepower".

The stats for the new guns all look pretty scary, but (hopefully) it'll be offset by Eldar still be relatively fragile and low in numbers.

 jeff white wrote:
I have this guy waiting with magnetised warp spider jump pack and wings … what are the chances I can use him and what could I make the gun (also magged so I could build something lighter, maybe a fire pike)

Spoiler:

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While he looks great with those wings as decor I can only imagine him flying with them like a drunken bumblebee. So better give him the WS jump pack if you want him moving fast. Or let him stay slow but looking good.

It's kind of funny how badly GW wants to keep the random element in damage. They are adding the +d3 or +3 or even +6 damage to the d6 because they know just a flat d6 or d3 just isn't going to cut it these days. They started doing the d6 with a minimum of 3 thing as well, because, let's face it, nothing sucks more than shooting a 50 point cannon at something and doing 1 piddly damage that doesn't even kill a space marine now.

But then, with how GW seems to be bending over backwards to appease the tournament scene, and with tournament players advocating against random rolls like charges and damage, it's just a matter of time until we see weapons doing flat damage of 6 or 8 or 10, and charges of 3" auto-passing, then some units will get auto-charge of 4", or 5" to represent their 'fleetness'.

It's just the normal development of the rules they've written for themselves with this edition. Armor and wounds trump small arms, and heavy weapons trump armor and wounds, and invul saves trump heavy weapons, and HEAVIER weapons trump invul saves and then damage reduction trumps HEAVIER weapons and then AMAZING weapons trump damage reduction.

I look forward to whatever they come up with to trump AMAZING weapons.

drbored wrote:


I look forward to whatever they come up with to trump AMAZING weapons.

Gotrek.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

drbored wrote:


I look forward to whatever they come up with to trump AMAZING weapons.

Gotrek.

Isn't the whole strategy against models like Gotrek to just ignore them and focus on taking care of the rest of the opponent's army?

Which often doesn't work as you hand out objectives to gotrek's　side if you avoid objectives(gotrek isn't running around in middle of nowhere).

22" bubble of don't enter is pretty much. More with cogs.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 jeff white wrote:
I have this guy waiting with magnetised warp spider jump pack and wings … what are the chances I can use him and what could I make the gun (also magged so I could build something lighter, maybe a fire pike)

Spoiler:

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While he looks great with those wings as decor I can only imagine him flying with them like a drunken bumblebee. So better give him the WS jump pack if you want him moving fast. Or let him stay slow but looking good.

Yeah, I had the wings and figured why not, as I can also magnetise other models for use of the wings with this dude getting the jump pack, for sure. Good point.

So, the latest Eldritch Omens article on WARCOM mentions Exodites a couple of times. Could it be, that we'll get not only Corsairs (rebranded 2nd ed Pirates), but also a unit of Dragon Knights?

New article.

WarCom wrote:Eldritch Omens is due to hit pre-order in February, and our pre-order weekend promise will ensure that anyone who orders a copy that weekend is guaranteed to get one.

Why couldn't it be March...

Also potential first bit of artwork for new Possessed?

new warlocks

Why are all of those so bloody blurry.

Interesting tidbits there (for those that want to save their eyes)-

witch weapons lose random damage (huzzah), witchblades get a point of AP, but do less damage (2 instead of the spear's 3).

only one datasheet- 1 model is a character, 2-6 is a conclave. (Max unit sized dropped from 10 to 6). Presumably skyrunner warlocks will have their own, however.
2 powers (and manifestations) at 4-6 models.

Seer Council lets you take slotless warlock unit for each farseer, which... eh. Seems more like a discouragement from taking Autarchs or an Avatar. Again.

Forget the rules! Check out that new Warlock mini!

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why are all of those so bloody blurry.

To protect the leakers, apparently. But I think it's probably about as effective as people posting statements on FB about how they own their own content.

Anyway, it's mostly legible to me.

1-6 models. PL depends on unit size. Stat line unchanged.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Forget the rules! Check out that new Warlock mini!

This is going to be an expensive year. I’ve not seen a new Eldar mini I didn’t want to get.

I’d say I already have enough warlocks, but if my army is growing the way it looks like it’s going to, I’ll need more psychic support.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Forget the rules! Check out that new Warlock mini!

Max unit size of 6 so likely come in either 2's or 3's as a little conclave box methinks?