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EviscerationPlague wrote:
Wonder what the point of giving the Bow relic the Shuriken rule? Am i missing an interaction?

Consistency?

There may be stats/traits that key off it. Isn’t there one that adds range to shrunken weapons? But the extra AP is a bit redundant when it just hands out MWs.

Hail of Doom wounding on 6's to hit and skipping to wound rolls, maybe.

Some amusing alignment errors on some of the stat blocks, with things not being centered beneath the right characteristic (see War Walker as the latest example).

The Wraithlord seems like a prime candidate for people to ping questions in regarding the heavy weapon options, so it can feature as an FAQ (or get a small errata to be a bit clearer).

Am I the only one who finds that the hemlock with Storm of whispers might be really funny ? 4+ for a mortal wound per model within 9" with this base and this speed ? Looks good !

Is the wraithlord the only non infantry/biker unit to have core that's been spotted so far?

 kingheff wrote:
Is the wraithlord the only non infantry/biker unit to have core that's been spotted so far?

Pretty much, that's standard though. Vehicles don't get CORE as a general rule.

 Hellebore wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Am I reading this right?

Crimson Hunter, two brights and a pulse that autohits and rerolls wounds v FLY? I'm guessing like 250 points, but...good night Crisis suits....

I guess they'll need something to pull drones off. Woe betide any other flier that goes second against this thing.

Forge the narrative

My narrative is using a crimson exarch to charge a character with only one remaining wound and hitting it 3 times with the tip of my wing, taking their head off...

Hahahaha Exalted

 Eldarsif wrote:

The Vyper is just a very lackluster "vehicle" as it is currently. With no -1 to hit or invuln save, not being able to use potential biker stratagem, and then having an issue with the the mismatch between the main weapon and the catapults I just can't see the Vyper ever seeing sunny days. At the same time it is fighting other better units for space.

Aren't the Vyper and Venom almost identical Eldar chassis? I guess the penny-pinching Craftworlders couldn't afford the flicker-field for the Vyper.

 Nevelon wrote:
Not degrading, -1D, and the duel profile on the glave are very nice. Hopefully the points are viable.

I was very pleasantly surprised by the two profiles on the Ghost Glaive for the Wraithlord, it's always been one of my favorite models. I wonder if they'll retroactively give that profile to the Wraith Seer as well.

Right, enough of this jibber-jabber. The Craftworlds & Friends Codex goes up for pre-order tomorrow morning. Who's getting it?

What plans do you all have for your army, using this new codex?

SamusDrake wrote:
Right, enough of this jibber-jabber. The Craftworlds & Friends Codex goes up for pre-order tomorrow morning. Who's getting it?

What plans do you all have for your army, using this new codex?

I’ll be grabbing the codex, not sure if I’ll pre-order from the FLGS or get it online at a discount. I like saving money, but also enjoy having a place to play. (The closest store to offer a discount is an hour away, so with gas prices I’m not saving a whole lot)

One of the things that’s going to impact my lists the most of the change of DA to elite. I try to minimize slow footslogging stuff (getting mud on your boots is for lesser races) but have limited options. I own 2 Falcons and 2 Wave Serpents, and sticking a unit of DA in a Falcon was one way I paid my troop tax. Guardians in a WS and a unit of rangers did the rest. I’d like to keep a WS free for wraithguard, and not have to do 2 with guardians. I have a new unit of rangers from the omens box, so might end up going 2x5 of them and a mechanized guardian squad once they get painted.

Nothing I’ve seen is going to make me drastically change what I field. But I tend to swap things around on a whim anyway and don’t play hyper-competitive lists. Depending on points and efficiency, some things might spend more time on the shelf. I think Vypers might be getting a little dusty, but points might redeem them.

Looking forward to adding the shroud runners to my list once I paint them, and a unit of shining spears once they release. Grav armor and jetbikes are what drew me to the army, so I lean into them.

Will start with my existing Iyanden force before shifting to an Aspect force. Have the new Autarch ready to build and just want confirmation on loadout restrictions before building him. Have so much unbuilt Eldar ready to go.

I think I'm just picking up the codex and data cards for now. I'm absolutely getting the Avatar when he drops. I already have gobs of current Guardians, Dark Reapers, and Shinning Spears at the moment. I'd love to replace them all with brand new plastics, but I want to try and be smarter with my cash and store credit with this release. I'll digest the codex, figure out what I want to use and how, then pick up models. Though I admit the hype is eating at me, and I'm constantly fighting the urge to pick up the Eldritch Omens box, 3 boxes of Dark Reapers, and several boxes of Shinning Spears

I will probably get the book and the cards. Was tempted by the dices too, but if all items are up in price I'll skip them. Not that I need them that much, but at 40$ CAD right now it was pushing it, more than that and I'll have to really really like them to get a set, which is not the case here.

Model-wise I'm pretty much set here, and my army was my actual plan for this year painting project, so the less I buy the easier it is! I'm very tempted to add a squad of Windriders though, that's the only addition I'm considering right now.

Having the FLGS set aside an Avatar and Maugan Ra for me for old times' sake.

At this point I'm probably just getting the guardians. I was interested in the Warlocks, but I'm not paying that price, even with a FLGS discount. I want to wait and see on the Avatar. I've already got the FW one.

Any more relic leaks?

SamusDrake wrote:
Right, enough of this jibber-jabber. The Craftworlds & Friends Codex goes up for pre-order tomorrow morning. Who's getting it?

What plans do you all have for your army, using this new codex?

I'll be ordering it. So far all I have is Eldritch Omens, and I haven't bought anymore until I see the book and can plan for what I want.

NZ has 'em up. No sprue pics for the Guardians, sadly. Nice pick of all the heavy weapons though:





And behold the sprue that gives you two minis, zero weapon options, and costs almost as much as a full box of new Guardians:



I guess it was so important that the feet be all different parts, not leaving enough room for a second spear/sword. Not that that would justify this box's criminal price band, but it would make you feel less dirty buying it.

Given that the bodies are all monobuild, warlocks having unattached legs is so weird

 GaroRobe wrote:
Given that the bodies are all monobuild, warlocks having unattached legs is so weird

That isn't unusual anymore. Helps with detail and avoiding undercuts.
A lot of monopose bodies have one or more loose legs, particularly with long robes or coats. (the krieg models, for example, while they more arm options, have set legs.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

So I stop in the local store, you know, people
I go to the store, I rent my coke, I call the store owner
I said "Look man, come down here", he got down there
Said, "Whatchoo want?"

"One witchblade, one gun, one spear"

Well I ain't seen my eldar since I don't know when
I been drinking low carb monster, wallet is thin
Gonna get high man, I'm gonna get wack
Need me a triple shot o' that crack
Gonna get punked, don't you have no fear
I want one witchblade, one gun and one spear
One witchblade, one gun, one spear

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I guess it was so important that the feet be all different parts

Well yeah, dunno if you ever hold old robed "multipose" models (read, thick, ugly chunk of plastic you can't convert in any way, have problems basing on anything but mirror flat surface, that even expert painter can't make look good) such as these because if you did, you wouldn't be saying that:

SamusDrake wrote:
Right, enough of this jibber-jabber. The Craftworlds & Friends Codex goes up for pre-order tomorrow morning. Who's getting it?

What plans do you all have for your army, using this new codex?

Definitely getting the dex. Won't need to pre-order; enough should come into the store that I can buy off the shelf.

I have the Blood of the Phoenix box, all still on the sprue, plus a box of Dire Avengers. If I paint up the DA first, it gives me a single fire team. This will allow me to start playing with just a handful of models.

It's worth mentioning that I'm also working on painting up a DE army using the same start small philosophy... So five wyches is a fireteam to fight the DA. Sure it is smaller than a full game- fireteam vs fireteam rather than Kill Team vs Kill Team- but it still gets me playing.

Then I work on the Banshees. They can't fight in KT (unless WD chooses to remedy that situation)... But the DA can keep fighting. Then JZ, the Falcon and the Vyper. According to the PL update on Warcom, that's 24 PL; the dex may bump it up a bit, but even if not, that's close enough to 25PL that I can run it as a Crusade. House rules of course... Legally, at 25 PL you're only allowed to take a Patrol, and this force can only be built as a Vanguard.

The CP box will be good for me- I need literally EVERYTHING in it. It's a fair amount of cash to dump all at once, even though it would save me money in the long run- it'll all depend on finances. I have LOTS of grey shame, and enough that I can play 25PL games for a very, very long time if I can't afford more models right away. I am a terribly slow painter, and even this many models will likely take me the better part of the year.
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Eh, I don't have any Rangers, think I might pick up the Rangers on Bikes somewhere down the road.

Unfortunately for GW, I got tired of waiting for their overpriced redos and bought some count-as STLs to replace my various aspects. Honestly, they look a lot better anyways. They've been primed and I just need to finish paint them when I've got a moment.

Prices ridiculous for the little sprue. Unfortunately get used to it because if they are getting away of charging £20 for one miniature hero or character whatever these 2 man is a bargain.

Nothing on that new release is bellow 17£ and thats just for some data cards...
Get the dex and ONE box and your down for something around £65 - £70

Price is out of control if you ask me. But hey enjoy it if you can.

SamusDrake wrote:
Right, enough of this jibber-jabber. The Craftworlds & Friends Codex goes up for pre-order tomorrow morning. Who's getting it?

What plans do you all have for your army, using this new codex?

Already preordered mine.

Currently hoping I can go heavy on vehicles and aspects. Also tempted to revive Footdar as I have an old FW Avatar that remains unassembled.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Prices ridiculous for the little sprue. Unfortunately get used to it because if they are getting away of charging £20 for one miniature hero or character whatever these 2 man is a bargain.

Nothing on that new release is bellow 17£ and thats just for some data cards...
Get the dex and ONE box and your down for something around £65 - £70

Price is out of control if you ask me. But hey enjoy it if you can.

Yep, I think I don't really need eldars after all. I'll just continue printing my 15mm ones and play that, probably with 4th.

HOW MUCH for five Dark Reapers?!

Well, there are flip through reviews of the new Codex already and the Autarch entry in there is the same as Eldritch Omens, as we feared:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=355fQa8N_9s at 47:33

In other words pants on head stupid, no backward customizability and interchangeability allowed with the old Autarch set, despite that being touted as a model design feature. So the Codex cover Autarch is illegal and the same goes for virtually all pre-existing Autarch artwork.

Maybe people should start asking GW innocently why their Codex cover portrays an illegal weapons combination as the main centrepiece?

Iracundus wrote:
Well, there are flip through reviews of the new Codex already and the Autarch entry in there is the same as Eldritch Omens, as we feared

WaIT aNd sEe

Iracundus wrote:
Well, there are flip through reviews of the new Codex already and the Autarch entry in there is the same as Eldritch Omens, as we feared:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=355fQa8N_9s at 47:33

In other words pants on head stupid, no backward customizability and interchangeability allowed with the old Autarch set, despite that being touted as a model design feature. So the Codex cover Autarch is illegal and the same goes for virtually all pre-existing Autarch artwork.

Maybe people should start asking GW innocently why their Codex cover portrays an illegal weapons combination as the main centrepiece?

Where's all the guys who told us to "wait and see" now, eh?