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 blood reaper wrote:
Rubricane Havocs

Ackchyually you couldn't give MoT to Havocs.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
I'd add "plastic Blood Slaughterer". WE should have at least one unique daemon engine.

Lord of Skulls?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
I'd add "plastic Blood Slaughterer". WE should have at least one unique daemon engine.

Lord of Skulls?

Yeah, sure, I'd include it in the WE army list. But the KLOS is a LoW, they need a more "general use" daemon engine that you can include in a typical list without specifically building the list around it, which you generally have to do with LoWs.

Maybe a little baby Brass Scorpion?

John D Law wrote:
Me personally I’d like to see the return of the Chaos Cannon of Khorne or Chaos Cauldron of Blood. Or would those just be considered daemons now :(

I have a Cannon of Khorne and just count it as a Chaos Vindicator.

Heres a semi-related thought. If World Eaters are coming, what do we think their chaff unit is going to be (along the lines of Tzaangors and Poxwalkers)? Blood Pact or Khorngors? And if its Blood Pact do they come with Stalk Tanks?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Heres a semi-related thought. If World Eaters are coming, what do we think their chaff unit is going to be (along the lines of Tzaangors and Poxwalkers)? Blood Pact or Khorngors? And if its Blood Pact do they come with Stalk Tanks?

I'd like to see the beast men guard from blackstone fortress expanded and used.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Heres a semi-related thought. If World Eaters are coming, what do we think their chaff unit is going to be (along the lines of Tzaangors and Poxwalkers)? Blood Pact or Khorngors? And if its Blood Pact do they come with Stalk Tanks?

Like I said a page or so ago, make it the Beastmen. Tie it into an AoS Beastmen re-release, so the kits can cross between 40k and AoS ala Tzaangors.

That'd work well, and the aggression of Beastmen would fit with Khorne.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Maybe a little baby Brass Scorpion?

Brass lobsters ?

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Maybe a little baby Brass Scorpion?

Brass lobsters ?

Brass Crab, if GW wants to chase the crab fandom that developed this year

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Maybe a little baby Brass Scorpion?

Brass lobsters ?

Brass Crab, if GW wants to chase the crab fandom that developed this year

I support this 100%.

It'll just be nice to finally have the 3rd god-aligned legion out, and those old berzerkers pushed into the new realm of plastic.

The evercrabs, champions from 10,000 different species across the galaxy who all evolved into the ultimate warrior life form: the crab. Those who could not complete their final metamorphosis into crab are bound as spirits to crab daemon engines.

Id definitely be curious how they do WE, given they're all berserkers. Potentially a lot less power armour perhaps with the bulk of troops being the cult that has formed around some survivors of Khorne's chosen legion.

As for cult troops in regular chaos armies, wouldn't be surprised to see that's the Black Legion's special thing in their supplement. Or that it's something to identify leaks.

There will be more beastmen in the same vein as those from Blackstone fortress. This is my prediction.

That said, Blood Pact would be awesome…. But no Ghosts probably means no Blood Pact.

Could we perhaps first get Traitor Guard at all before we dream of a specific variety of it, please? Thanks.

You already got it - in blackstone fortress... and before that by forgeworld... and before that in Codex: Eye of Terror (or was it Codex: Armageddon? I forget).

Eye of Terror had the Lost and the Damned army list.

But come on, you know I'm talking about plastic kits that make a 40k army, not a handful of random models, nice as they are, in some side game.

 Geifer wrote:
Could we perhaps first get Traitor Guard at all before we dream of a specific variety of it, please? Thanks.

The reliable rumors say we are, so think we're good on that count.

Clockwork,

Any news on the Psychic powers and who gets them? Are we keeping both trees, is the Malefic tree options opening up to more characters?

 ph34r wrote:
The evercrabs, champions from 10,000 different species across the galaxy who all evolved into the ultimate warrior life form: the crab. Those who could not complete their final metamorphosis into crab are bound as spirits to crab daemon engines.

My dude... we could totally use this to overhaul the defiler!

Alright some big updates.

So my source corrected me on some things that i wrote here. Marks and daemonic gifts are one and the same. So this means marks need to be purchased and on top of providing a keyword it also provides you automatically with the daemonic gift.

So you want to make your chosen khorne. You pay some points and the chosen gain the keyword khorne & the +1s on the charge. This also means that the perks apply to all core and characters, including helbrutes.

Now for icons, here is a list of markable units who can have icons:
Legionaires
Chosen
Possessed
Bikers
Terminator

Here is a list of markable units that cannot get icons:
Raptors
Warptalons
Helbrute
Havocs

Also

Raptors (unit of 5-10)
Chainsword and pistol
Up to 2 special weapons
Up to 2 plasma pistols
Champ
Can take plasma pistol
Power sword or fist

Bikers (unit of 3-9)
Replace pistol for chainsword
Up to 2 special weapons
Up to 2 replace combi weapons with combi plas/melt/flam
Icon
Champ
Plasma pistol
1 weapon from Melee weapon

Warptalons (unit of 5-10)

Lucius gains 3 additional attacks and +1 damage if fighting a unit with a 3+ WS

Cypher can only be hit on a 4+

Harkon can make a raptor unit reroll hit and wound

Abbadon is incredibly killy

Are the combi-weapons for the Bikers referring to the guns mounted on their bikes?

Thanks for the update clockworkchris9

Any chance you could ask about how Psychic powers work? Do we still have the two trees? Is Malefefic still locked to only the MoP?

If I'm understanding this right, Raptors can now get 3 plasma pistols and 2 plasma guns, while having 3A base and +1S from Khorne mark/gift?

So a unit of 5 is packing 7 plasma shots in 12", then charging for 4 power sword/fist, 8 astartes chainswords, and 6 "no profile" attacks at S5? Potentially with full re-rolls on hits and wounds from Haarken? that'll clear an objective!

My guess is it's going to be like the current codex 2 pistols or 2 special weapons rather than an "and".

Thanks for the update !

Does it mean that Lucius still has the same profile as before and he just has this new ability ?

Terminators keeping access to icons (while having none in the kit) while e.g. Raptors lose icons (also having none in the kit) is a little odd.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Terminators keeping access to icons (while having none in the kit) while e.g. Raptors lose icons (also having none in the kit) is a little odd.

Yeah, a bit odd. The Chosen kit has very teeny tiny icons in it, which is a nice touch. The regular Chaos Marine kit also only has the 2 generic icons, no real way to identify which god they're worshipping.

But then, 9th ed is full of rules that aren't represented on the model, so I think it'll be ok.

Forget that: No Raptor Champ with Lightning Claws???

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Forget that: No Raptor Champ with Lightning Claws???

One Raptor Champion may be used in your Warp Talon squad