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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Though speaking of Sausage, on a scale of 1-Marmoset, how confused and baffled are you that, for once, Australia isn’t getting the poopy end of the price rise stick?

Cynicism reigns supreme, I'm afraid. You think Australia is safe from this? They said that our prices weren't going up. That applies to everything on sale now. That doesn't mean that we won't see new products suddenly have a higher price, so whilst basic squads basic squads stay at the currently already-absurd AUD$98, that new regular infantry box might suddenly come out at AUD$103. And, technically, the price didn't go up, because that's the price it was released at.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
HBMC complaining about people complaining about people is a bit rich.

Who said I was complaining?

It was an observation. In the same way that Gert seems to enter threads to attempt to shut down conversations, you appear in non-YMDC threads and then vanish just as quickly with quick little drive bys. I mean, consider:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Good numbers again. Guess the “boycott” was the hot air we suspected

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Yep. That sounds like Dakka business as usual to me.

That's just the last two. Took no time at all to find.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Cheers for the chuckle. Needed that this morning! I’ll leave you to the ill-informed armchair financial analytics and politics-ban-breaching side spats. Because there isn’t anything of value in this thread. No one likes prices rises. I think it sucks. But a circle jank of whining about it with bonus infighting achieves what exactly?

You're leaving after getting another dig in. Maybe you should listen to yourself:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Maybe some folks need to step away from their keyboards.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You silly sausage

Though speaking of Sausage, on a scale of 1-Marmoset, how confused and baffled are you that, for once, Australia isn’t getting the poopy end of the price rise stick?

As a point of note, 2021 annual inflation rate was 3.5% down under.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You silly sausage

Though speaking of Sausage, on a scale of 1-Marmoset, how confused and baffled are you that, for once, Australia isn’t getting the poopy end of the price rise stick?

I guess GW higherups decided that jacking the Aussie prices even further up would actually significantly affect their sales there, to the point it's not gonna be worth it?

GW also have still yet to recruit the extra 150 staff they need to fully open the new distribution hub.

These are due to be recruited this year, once COVID restrictions relax.

That's gonna be around £2 million a year in extra staffing costs, but there will also be an increase in associated costs like utilities etc to go along with it.

 Arbitrator wrote:
I'd ordinarily make the usual joke about "they do it for free" when it comes to the usual suspects rushing to GW's defence (for free) but I'm curious how many have shares in GW and thus do have a financial incentive to try and make excuses for them.

There's been some opinions put forth that simping for capitalism not only isn't based on your own personal interests (obvious), it's not even the misplaced class solidarity we usually hear about (poors voting right because they see themselves as "temporarily inconvenienced millionares") but a mental predisposition to find comfort in hierarchical societal organisation, even if they are on the bottom. Hence the willing slaves.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Entirely fair and factually accurate point

Luckily with my maths skills, I don’t work in finance.

Oh…..

CONFIRMED!
The problems with the UK finances are because the people in finance can't do maths!!!

It’s alright, I’m kept far, far from the levers of power.

I most just write slightly snarky letters.

To the people who are saying they should just absorb the increased costs via the profits.

How would you like it if your employer had to pay increased tax for you as an employee, so they're using your pay rise to cover it, so rather than keeping up with the cost of living you're comparatively worse off?

Yes they're putting prices up out of a form of need/greed, yes they could absorb them, but they're obligated not to and there's no reason the owners of the company (stakeholders) should de facto take the hit, simply because the customers don't like paying more.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s alright, I’m kept far, far from the levers of power.

I most just write slightly snarky letters.

Much appreciating the level headed and reasonable explanation. I am noting most of the people living in the extremes of claiming others are apologists/simps/white knights or whatever the popular term is, tend to not be from the UK, maybe we're just conditioned to this sort of thing.

 Oguhmek wrote:
The silver lining here is the incentive for me to work on my (considerable) pile of shame instead of buying new stuff. Also, if I'm working on the armies I already have (instead of starting new ones) I don't need any new codexes or other rules either, so actually this price increase might save me money in the end!

Same here. When you have a huge pile of shame this only encourages you to stick to your stuff and finish it. For me I might at best buy the tomes/codexes and maybe a dual box or two.

Dudeface wrote:
Much appreciating the level headed and reasonable explanation. I am noting most of the people living in the extremes of claiming others are apologists/simps/white knights or whatever the popular term is, tend to not be from the UK, maybe we're just conditioned to this sort of thing.

Perhaps there is some correlation between living in a monarchy and enjoying serfdom

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:It’s alright, I’m kept far, far from the levers of power.

I most just write slightly snarky letters.

WAIT you're not the kinda person that writes the "you've missed your last TV licence payment - we will be sending the bailiffs to reclaim your home in the morning"
Also has anyone ever seen one of those licence detector vans ever?!

Dudeface wrote:

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s alright, I’m kept far, far from the levers of power.

I most just write slightly snarky letters.

Much appreciating the level headed and reasonable explanation. I am noting most of the people living in the extremes of claiming others are apologists/simps/white knights or whatever the popular term is, tend to not be from the UK, maybe we're just conditioned to this sort of thing.

It's the queuing. We are conditioned from a young age to learn how to stand in lines so that everyone gets through the shopping process quickly and efficiently. IT helps keep other things working too on the same theory (though I think Denmark might actually be ahead of us in that regard - at least during pandemic times)

Have any other Euro miniature companies raised their prices recently? I know Corvus Belli did.

Not those sorts of letter!

Different letters. Some bring joy. Some engender rage. I’m doing one right now which I’m rather enjoying….

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Have any other Euro miniature companies raised their prices recently? I know Corvus Belli did.

Warlord Games did so last year. I imagine they might have to do so again this year considering how much of their stuff is still in metal.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Have any other Euro miniature companies raised their prices recently? I know Corvus Belli did.

I think so, yeah... but not yearly (or nearly so, plus the ever increasing price on new releases), which is the main issue with GW.

I think Mantic did too.

GW puts up prices every year, but not for ever item. Some stuff doesn't get a price increase for years at a time.
This time though, it's a lot more, but by way of items, and the amount increased.

And, they have to tell us about it, due to the shareholders thing. Other, smaller, companies don't.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If staffing costs go up in the U.K. (we have a National Minimum Wage, which rises above inflation most years)

Heavily tangential, but from the PoV of the NMW it actually doesn't keep pace with inflation of things that impact people on the NMW, which is why in the last couple of weeks a new measure, called the Vimes Index (named after Sir Terry Pratchett's Commander Vimes) has been agreed and developed.

 Overread wrote:
WAIT you're not the kinda person that writes the "you've missed your last TV licence payment - we will be sending the bailiffs to reclaim your home in the morning"
Also has anyone ever seen one of those licence detector vans ever?!

You just need to live in the part of the country where the licensing authority is toothless, armless, and legless, then you'll never have a problem.

 Gert wrote:

 Overread wrote:
WAIT you're not the kinda person that writes the "you've missed your last TV licence payment - we will be sending the bailiffs to reclaim your home in the morning"
Also has anyone ever seen one of those licence detector vans ever?!

You just need to live in the part of the country where the licensing authority is toothless, armless, and legless, then you'll never have a problem.

I get regular letter about that. All of which are ignored, because I have a TV License for my flat. And I can prove that, on account I have one.

Trouble for TV Licensing is my flat has had various titles. Second Floor, Top Floor, Flat 1. They’re chasing me for one of those. I’m paying under another. They expect me to fill out a load of forms to correct it. I’m not doing that. They can waste their own time and correct their own records. I’ve done nowt wrong.

Oh Doc I mean that even when the guys come round, they ask to come in, you say no and they just leave. The best part of the UK to live in hands down.

Oh they’re welcome to come in. I’m in the right and properly licensed.

Would be nice if they actually turned up though.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You silly sausage

Though speaking of Sausage, on a scale of 1-Marmoset, how confused and baffled are you that, for once, Australia isn’t getting the poopy end of the price rise stick?

I guess GW higherups decided that jacking the Aussie prices even further up would actually significantly affect their sales there, to the point it's not gonna be worth it?

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I think they're shooting for saturation, raise prices in a market as high as they can without consumers leaving the market entirely. The power of having monopolistic power in a market. They've reached that point with Australia from my current understanding, and they don't have the footing in China/Japan to try it yet. NZ I'm unsure, and my argument falls a bit there, but It wouldn't surprise me if it's a similar situation. In the rest of the world however they've clearly not reached that point yet so they'll keep raising prices, be it justified or not until they hit that point.

I wonder if it could also be a shipping thing. I notice that the countries they aren't rising in are all in the same region of the world.

 Overread wrote:


WAIT you're not the kinda person that writes the "you've missed your last TV licence payment - we will be sending the bailiffs to reclaim your home in the morning"
Also has anyone ever seen one of those licence detector vans ever?!

The vans existed.

Whether or not they can actually 'detect' is another matter entirely.

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Companies really need to realize their shareholder reports are public documents.

You don't get to brag about record profits in one outlet and the plead poverty in another one.

Sure you do, you just need a legion of unpaid promoters who will defend your actions no matter what.

Record profits were during pandemic shutdown. Their profit dropped a fair amount (obviously not in a manner to cry poverty ) on the last report and people here were just recently claiming ( again ) that it was the death knell due to 3D printing, so...maybe some people just value objectivity over drama.

Ok, what in the feth is a "TV license"

At the end of the day, if you're running a business that has experienced record sales, continually sells out of new releases, that can't manufacture things quick enough (I understand Covid is part of this), and is heading now into a period of inflation and economic uncertainty, you'd be pretty foolish NOT to consider a cheeky price rise.

As much as I wince sometimes when I pay for my models, I'd rather have a GW rolling in money that takes risks making cool stuff (Eldar reboot, World Eaters, Ash Wastes for Necromunda) than one that's always two bad quarters away from trouble and has to focus on sure things (Space Marines).

 Albertorius wrote:
Ok, what in the feth is a "TV license"

Some countries have to pay the government to fund broadcast TV. It's what funds the BBC.

 Albertorius wrote:
Ok, what in the feth is a "TV license"

If you own a TV connected to an aerial in the UK (I.e. so you can receive broadcast signals*) you have to have pay an annual fee, which is used to fund the BBC and other public broadcasting. Effectively it’s a tax to fund public broadcasting, but it’s called a licence and it’s administered in a weird, separate way due to historical reasons.

* I think it now covers live streaming from BBC iPlayer, etc. too now, but I don’t know the details, because I’ve never looked into the loopholes.