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 Togusa wrote:

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 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.

Looks to be much too big for that

I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.

This also confirms a rumour.

Maybe it's Angron?

Frankly I'd be absolutely insulted if they turned Angron into that

That would be a terrible Angron.
Definitely doesn’t look like him.

But also the rumour pic suggests otherwise.
The tongue and horn are different but it’s the same head on neck style.
Multi option, or multiple models.

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 silverstu wrote:
Didn't expect more Votann so soon, hopefully a few more models revealed- I'm guessing probably just. few members of the same squad from those silhouettes and maybe a mention of if/when an army box might be arriving.

I'm guessing the main 40k reveals will be around chaos coming. Sylvaneth for AOS obviously.
Killteam and Warcry are the big unknowns I guess.

I kind of do, I expect to see the full army get its release sometime in Late-August-Late September based on some of the stuff I've heard my local store manager mention. It's possible that they'll be later (October-November) but something is nagging me inside telling me that it will be a late summer release.

Yes I think the main release will be September time - it just seems very early to be showing more unless they are doing an early release Army box or something in June/July. Which actually I expect too.. it just seems to be happening very quickly ..I don't think they would be showing more if there wasn't some sort of limited release for them in the next couple of months ..

The last few times GW have started a new army from scratch they've done various things to split up the release schedule. Partly because no one will buy a full army all in one go, and partly because even fewer people will assemble & paint that much that quickly.

Admech had 2 separate codexes for the two 'halves' of the army
Deathwatch & GSC were in a boardgame several months before their first codexes
AOS Lumineth had two releases a year apart
Custodes had models released in the Burning of Prospero and Talons of the Emperor boxes in the year before their codex.
Death Guard were in the 8E starter box, followed by a wider codex & models release a few months later

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a Squats army set or boxed game in the summer with some core units, then later in the year there's another wave with the rest of the faction.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I feel the Skaven will be in this as well. There's been a long, persistent rumour of a Sylvaneth vs Skaven box.

Coupled with summer repackaging order leaked and images of clanrat/pestilent repackages around that's certainty.

Warhammer Community wrote:An older version of this video had a note that we'd see Warhammer Underworlds news at Warhammer Fest.

Since the new Nethermaze core set is freshly emerged, it's a bit early yet for news at this event. Don't worry though, there's a lot of very cool stuff coming.

See you there!

So yeah, no Underworlds.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Warhammer Community wrote:An older version of this video had a note that we'd see Warhammer Underworlds news at Warhammer Fest.

Since the new Nethermaze core set is freshly emerged, it's a bit early yet for news at this event. Don't worry though, there's a lot of very cool stuff coming.

See you there!

So yeah, no Underworlds.

Grand that clears that up, I’d rather get some Warcry news anyway as it’s been a bit since there was any.

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 silverstu wrote:
Didn't expect more Votann so soon, hopefully a few more models revealed- I'm guessing probably just. few members of the same squad from those silhouettes and maybe a mention of if/when an army box might be arriving.

I'm guessing the main 40k reveals will be around chaos coming. Sylvaneth for AOS obviously.
Killteam and Warcry are the big unknowns I guess.

I kind of do, I expect to see the full army get its release sometime in Late-August-Late September based on some of the stuff I've heard my local store manager mention. It's possible that they'll be later (October-November) but something is nagging me inside telling me that it will be a late summer release.

Yes I think the main release will be September time - it just seems very early to be showing more unless they are doing an early release Army box or something in June/July. Which actually I expect too.. it just seems to be happening very quickly ..I don't think they would be showing more if there wasn't some sort of limited release for them in the next couple of months ..

I wouldn't be surprised if there is an early release starter box for them in July/August.

Would it have killed them to show off the next Underworlds warband?

Now there's even less at this single-preview-stretched-over-four-days.

They're showing WarCry, not Underworlds. The video simply said "Underworlds" instead of WarCry. It's the same number of things being shown.

Anyways:
Nethermaze is the start of a new season. The electro-zombies were the last Harrowdeep warband. The repacked Harrowdeep warbands are labeled Nethermaze for their packaging even.

 Togusa wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if there is an early release starter box for them in July/August.

With them posting the stats of a basic trooper today I'm thinking sooner- maybe June.

SamusDrake wrote:
Nothing on the Titanicus front...hmm. Been quiet for three months now since the Direwolf reveal...

I'm going to guess that Warcry is going to get repacked Underworlds kits. Although we might be looking at a new edition, as the game is about three years old now.

40K, Chaos Marines or Chaos Daemons. Squat-Voltrons, or whatever they're called now...

Kill Team...dunno. Lictors'n'Deathleapers.

AoS...Sylvaneth and Skaven.

Necromunda will probably be more Ash Wastes. Please let it be a desert Ambull! Don't think, GW, just do it!

The Horus Heresy is obvious. Full on launch box reveal and all that jazz.

Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.

Warcry should be up for 3 year rotation in the new version cycle, if I have my timeframes right.

 gorgon wrote:


Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y release between bigger releases.

They certainly are taking their time over the Direwolf...

Going to go out in left field and say it's either a Malerion thing, or maybe a new K'daai destroyer for new Chaos Dwarves.

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.

Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?

The AT team has, like most GW teams, said that they are NOT doing anything that fans ask for that isn't coming out soon. So they are not doing Imperators and they are not doing Epic.

Which isn't to say they can't do them, just that they've not done them up till now.


Personally I feel like an Imperator would be the wrong move. What AT needs right now, esp as GW is just releasing chaos knight kits, is Chaos Titans. Not just rules for traitors and a few demonic tables, but actual mutated and warped titans.

Ergo give the game a visually distinct and different army.



That I hope is what's on the horizon for AT as the next big thing. I feel like anything else, even an Imperator, is making the game too stale with a single mirror faction approach. It also makes it harder and harder to actually do a Chaos or Xenos army because the Imperial side has so many options already. Any other army either needs a huge release; a fast release cycle or just has to go with "this one titan can do everything and is super broken" approach.

Really disappointed on the lack of Titanicus news. No releases yet this year and we're nearly 6 months in!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.

Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?

I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch. Will be interesting if any of the rumours that say they're going to integrated limited tanks and infantry in turn out to be true

 Overread wrote:
The AT team has, like most GW teams, said that they are NOT doing anything that fans ask for.

Could've just ended it there

Actually, I'm with Overread on this: God-specific or more-obviously-Chaotic Chaos Titans would be the next step for this. Really differentiate the sides.

 zedmeister wrote:
I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch.

A whole edition's worth of cards and Titan terminals invalidated in one fell swoop? Isn't that what kneecapped X-Wing?

 TalonZahn wrote:
Warcry should be up for 3 year rotation in the new version cycle, if I have my timeframes right.

A new Warcry edition feels like it would shore up the second half of the year like Kill-Team did last time. I doubt they much, if anything, getting in the way of the new 30k edition for the foreseeable months.

My guess is a supplement book and maybe a new team and/or boxset.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Actually, I'm with Overread on this: God-specific or more-obviously-Chaotic Chaos Titans would be the next step for this. Really differentiate the sides.

 zedmeister wrote:
I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch.

A whole edition's worth of cards and Titan terminals invalidated in one fell swoop? Isn't that what kneecapped X-Wing?

I think it was also really erratic stock as well since its pre-painted so its much easier to fall out of stock.


Plus don't forget GW customers are very used to GW cycling rules. We all know that any game they release that ends up being supported mid to long term will very likely get a new edition. Invalidating all the former and changing things up.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Actually, I'm with Overread on this: God-specific or more-obviously-Chaotic Chaos Titans would be the next step for this. Really differentiate the sides.

 zedmeister wrote:
I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch.

A whole edition's worth of cards and Titan terminals invalidated in one fell swoop? Isn't that what kneecapped X-Wing?

AT doesn't have hundreds of individual interchangable upgrade cards tied to scores of model releases.

If anyone can ask the question: "What size bases to standard infantry Leagues of Votan come one?"

 cuda1179 wrote:
If anyone can ask the question: "What size bases to standard infantry Leagues of Votan come one?"

Maybe the same as the AoS Khadaron Overlord models? I'm assuming they're going to be the 40K counterpart to that range...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.

Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?

Maybe someday, but it'd likely be a resin piece with a price tag that everyone will scream about. To me, in order to be a plastic kit it would need to be useable as a gaming piece to ensure enough sales. The Warmasters are already too big for regular AT games, and the Iconoclast was the first plastic Titan kit that didn't seem to fly off the shelves. Of course, there could still be a market among the collector whales who buy everything that FW produces. So it'd be a smaller resin run aimed at that famously price-insensitive crowd.

I don't buy the rumors about tanks and planes formally joining the game. Adding some tanks to AT won't actually suit anyone. There are plenty in the AT community who want to keep the game Titan-focused. They don't want to see all- or mostly-tank forces (inevitably) majorly screw with game balance. But adding them in a more limited, controlled way isn't what the "I want Epic" crowd is asking for. Plus I dunno that GW really wants to be in the tiny dudes and vehicles business anymore when great non-GW 6mm options are so plentiful.

They openly talked about kits for 'tweener Titans not long after the game launched, and so far we've gotten two of those plus a whole gakton of mentions of a third. AT has had a glacial release rate from the beginning. To me (and getting this back on topic), this is a regular pause probably exacerbated by resources being diverted to the HH 2.0 launch.

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SamusDrake wrote:
Nothing on the Titanicus front...hmm. Been quiet for three months now since the Direwolf reveal...

I'm going to guess that Warcry is going to get repacked Underworlds kits. Although we might be looking at a new edition, as the game is about three years old now.

40K, Chaos Marines or Chaos Daemons. Squat-Voltrons, or whatever they're called now...

Kill Team...dunno. Lictors'n'Deathleapers.

AoS...Sylvaneth and Skaven.

Necromunda will probably be more Ash Wastes. Please let it be a desert Ambull! Don't think, GW, just do it!

The Horus Heresy is obvious. Full on launch box reveal and all that jazz.

Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.

Isn't there a rumor going around about AT getting a 2.0 soon?

 zedmeister wrote:
Really disappointed on the lack of Titanicus news. No releases yet this year and we're nearly 6 months in!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.

Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?

I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch. Will be interesting if any of the rumours that say they're going to integrated limited tanks and infantry in turn out to be true

Blood Bowl was released in 2016, had a slow down in new releases, then saw a second edition in late 2020 followed by regular new models.
Necromunda was released in 2017, had a slow down in new releases last year, and just over four years later we're now seeing a fairly substantial update in a new setting with vehicles.
Adeptus Titanicus was released in 2018, and is currently undergoing a slow down in in new content...

 Overread wrote:
That I hope is what's on the horizon for AT as the next big thing. I feel like anything else, even an Imperator, is making the game too stale with a single mirror faction approach. It also makes it harder and harder to actually do a Chaos or Xenos army because the Imperial side has so many options already. Any other army either needs a huge release; a fast release cycle or just has to go with "this one titan can do everything and is super broken" approach.

I might be missing something here, but is Chaos lacking access to anything from the AT range other than possibly the Psy-Titan (and that's a guess on my part)?

 Dysartes wrote:

 Overread wrote:
That I hope is what's on the horizon for AT as the next big thing. I feel like anything else, even an Imperator, is making the game too stale with a single mirror faction approach. It also makes it harder and harder to actually do a Chaos or Xenos army because the Imperial side has so many options already. Any other army either needs a huge release; a fast release cycle or just has to go with "this one titan can do everything and is super broken" approach.

I might be missing something here, but is Chaos lacking access to anything from the AT range other than possibly the Psy-Titan (and that's a guess on my part)?

Yeah but the point at which GW starts doing actual different sculpts for Chaos you can bet that those who play Chaos will want to use those over just the same Imperial models with a chaos paint scheme or insignia. Or at least have the option to have unique models.