Astra Militarum Rumors 2022-2023

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**Kid_Kyoto**

Hope is the beginning of unhappiness

**AtoMaki**

Shakalooloo wrote:
This Traitor Guard datasheet is just to allow people to use their KIll Teams in 40k. A kill team can have only 3 special weapons with no dupes, so that's what they translated across. Hopefully, once a full Codex materialises, the options will fan out a little.

Chaos Space Marines and Cultists also can't take the same special or heavy weapon multiple times. It is also a thing in the Votann codex where their basic troop must take different weapons too.

**Shakalooloo**

AtoMaki wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
This Traitor Guard datasheet is just to allow people to use their KIll Teams in 40k. A kill team can have only 3 special weapons with no dupes, so that's what they translated across. Hopefully, once a full Codex materialises, the options will fan out a little.

Chaos Space Marines and Cultists also can't take the same special or heavy weapon multiple times. It is also a thing in the Votann codex where their basic troop must take different weapons too.

Well, the explanation for those is just bad writing.

**Scottywan82**

Shakalooloo wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
This Traitor Guard datasheet is just to allow people to use their KIll Teams in 40k. A kill team can have only 3 special weapons with no dupes, so that's what they translated across. Hopefully, once a full Codex materialises, the options will fan out a little.

Chaos Space Marines and Cultists also can't take the same special or heavy weapon multiple times. It is also a thing in the Votann codex where their basic troop must take different weapons too.

Well, the explanation for those is just bad writing.

Your optimism is sweet, honestly.

**Platuan4th**

AtoMaki wrote:

Chaos Space Marines and Cultists also can't take the same special or heavy weapon multiple times.

Cultists can.

**AtoMaki**

Platuan4th wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:

Chaos Space Marines and Cultists also can't take the same special or heavy weapon multiple times.

Cultists can.

Ops. Missed the asterisk.

**H.B.M.C.**

Platuan4th wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
Chaos Space Marines and Cultists also can't take the same special or heavy weapon multiple times.
Cultists can.

Chaosistency!

**Kanluwen**

Petitioner's City over on Bolter & Chainsword found this:

An Astra Militarum Novel

An elite squad of Cadian Kasrkin are tasked with a critical mission behind enemy lines. They must rescue their general in xenos-held territory before his dangerous knowledge falls into enemy hands. But not all is as it seems...

READ IT BECAUSE

Hear the legendary elite soldiers of Cadia in action as they take on a mission so dangerous it could only be trusted to troops with their training and equipment.

THE STORY

When the perfidious t’au bring down a valkyrie containing an Astra Militarum general on the besieged Imperial world of Dasht i-Kevar, all could be lost what the general knows could break the war effort, and see the planet fall under the control of the vile xenos.

Only the Kasrkin stand a chance at bringing him back. They are the elite of the elite, but the enemy that Captain Bharath Obeysekera and his squad are called upon to fight is unlike any they have faced before the desert itself, endless and implacable.

With sandstorms cutting them off from support, Obeysekera has only his soldiers to rely on. As the Kasrkin journey deeper into the wastes, they begin to realise they’re not the only hunters searching for the missing general, and that their war has caught the attention of something ancient lurking beneath the desert sands…

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Rumour Engine from 10/26/2021. Possibly the Field Ordnance?

**AtoMaki**

Kanluwen wrote:

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Rumour Engine from 10/26/2021. Possibly the Field Ordnance?

IIRC this weapon was a part of some old leak that showed the new Super Heavy Weapon Squad.

**Bobthehero**

Kanluwen wrote:
Petitioner's City over on Bolter & Chainsword found this:

Tie-in with the plastic Kasrkins, no doubts. Still. Thoroughly interested, I don't think there's a single book that display the Karskins as anything but absolute units, and a whole book all about them sounds right about my alley, at least. Anyone read the author's other books?

**ph34r**

I love the part in Eisenhorn where a bunch of Kasrkin dogpile a daemonhost in hand to hand.

This guard book is shaping up to be uh very not exciting, and disappointing

**General Hobbs**

ph34r wrote:
I love the part in Eisenhorn where a bunch of Kasrkin dogpile a daemonhost in hand to hand.

This guard book is shaping up to be uh very not exciting, and disappointing

I normally hate Gamer fiction. BUt Abnett rocks.

And this scene is one of the best action scenes I have ever read in a book.

**Da Butcha**

Wait...The 'perfidious tau'?

Outrage! "Perfidious" should be reserved as an adjective exclusively for the Eldar! Outrage!

Any book with the Kasrkin is one less book with Space Marines as the main protagonists, so it's all good!

**schoon**

GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

**Kid_Kyoto**

schoon wrote:
GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

My thinking is that a novel on Kasrkin (for example) timed to match a release is going to be editorially driven to meet a release schedule. In contrast if someone does a book on Harlequins or Inquisitors at a time when there's no product to sell it will be more author driven.

Generally I've been frustrated with books meant to tie into a product release.

**Gert**

The author's Roane Deeper's story in Sabbat War was really good. It got a claustrophobia warning in the editor's note by Abnett and it definitely needed it.

**Valkyrie**

Gert wrote:
The author's Roane Deeper's story in Sabbat War was really good. It got a claustrophobia warning in the editor's note by Abnett and it definitely needed it.

Which one was that? Was that in the original GG series or one of the tie-ins?

**Gert**

The most recent anthology, has a lot of good stuff in it.
https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/sabbat-war-ebook-2021.html
The story is called Deep and I would recommend reading it because my explanation won't do it justice.

**Valkyrie**

Gert wrote:
The most recent anthology, has a lot of good stuff in it.
https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/sabbat-war-ebook-2021.html
The story is called Deep and I would recommend reading it because my explanation won't do it justice.

Ooh interesting. Has there been any news on continuing the main GG series?

**BlackoCatto**

schoon wrote:
GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

So a Marine will swoop in to save the day XD

**AtoMaki**

BlackoCatto wrote:
schoon wrote:
GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

So a Marine will swoop in to save the day XD

If the last IG vs Tau book I have read is any measure then the human main protagonist will save Shadowsun's life in the final fight against the Big Evil Human Character, and after the battle Shadowsun will semi-randomly reflect on procreation and childbearing. I gak you not here, this was in the book.

**Vilgeir**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
schoon wrote:
GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

My thinking is that a novel on Kasrkin (for example) timed to match a release is going to be editorially driven to meet a release schedule. In contrast if someone does a book on Harlequins or Inquisitors at a time when there's no product to sell it will be more author driven.

Generally I've been frustrated with books meant to tie into a product release.

Keep in mind that the Black Library release schedule looks to be so heavily planned that they can and do sit on books for, well, almost a year before releasing them.

I'm reminded of Aaron Dembski-Bowden's Echoes of Eternity, which was finished and ready to go in November of 2021 (per his personal blog), but I don't think it hit wide publication until like last month.

**BlackoCatto**

AtoMaki wrote:
BlackoCatto wrote:
schoon wrote:
GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

So a Marine will swoop in to save the day XD

If the last IG vs Tau book I have read is any measure then the human main protagonist will save Shadowsun's life in the final fight against the Big Evil Human Character, and after the battle Shadowsun will semi-randomly reflect on procreation and childbearing. I gak you not here, this was in the book.

What

**Geifer**

BlackoCatto wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
BlackoCatto wrote:
schoon wrote:
GW's copy for selling books (or minis) isn't usually much of an indicator of the quality of the end result.

Generally much better to look at the author's other stuff and judge that way. Seems he's mostly a Space Marine author...

So a Marine will swoop in to save the day XD

If the last IG vs Tau book I have read is any measure then the human main protagonist will save Shadowsun's life in the final fight against the Big Evil Human Character, and after the battle Shadowsun will semi-randomly reflect on procreation and childbearing. I gak you not here, this was in the book.

What

That leaves me with only two questions. Does Shadowsun reflect on procreation with her human savior, and when are we expecting Black Library to roll out their Warhammer Kink line?

**Garrac**

So... any rumours pointing to a Traitor Guard-Brood Brothers-like rules? I mean, I know we just got a datasheet.. but in this existence the duty of a true man is to believe

**General Hobbs**

RE: Cadia Stands army preview on Warhammer Community page https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/08/warhammer-day-reveals-cadia-stands-with-an-all-new-army-set/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=events&utm_content=whd---astra-militarum&fbclid=IwAR3rYMdgkhAbzZ6wSZC2Bzto9QXNZBvJvw1w7kme8Me_OtDJrSsvn-U2qRE

Rebasing the guardsmen???.......NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!

The new sentinel kit looks good, and lets you build the scout sentinel.

LOve the ordnance Batteries. They look great.

The new Heavy Weapons Kits.....ok. Not bad.

New Command Squad etc.....ok. Obviously they are monopose, so you can't convert up neat looking medics, radiomen etc.

New Cadians.....look ok. There is an intriguing line that says Cadian squads can bring more special weapons than a standard infantry squad.

So does this mean GW will have Cadian Squads and standard infantry squads? Or will the Cadian Squads replace the old kit ( given that the new models have different proportions) and you just slap a keyword on them?

OH and again......it looks like the models are on bigger bases.

**Kanluwen**

It's been basically confirmed for ages now that there's a separate datasheet for Cadians, Catachans, and Krieg.

**JohnnyHell**

They confirmed base sizes on the stream. 25mm for Infantry squad, 28.5 for Command squad.

**AtoMaki**

Those kneepads are cute. Also, the Bombast gunner guy must have Mars-grade adamantine balls to sit right behind an obviously not recoilless high-calibre cannon.

**endlesswaltz123**

So, the none heavy weapons in infantry squads rumour seems false when reading the warcom article.

Whether on their own or as part of an Infantry Squad, Heavy Weapons Teams are responsible for taking down the big beasts that lasguns won’t scratch.