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**NAVARRO**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do we even know if Ratlings survived into the new book?

Would really like to see a Codex League of ratlings in the future. Theres potential there.

**MajorWesJanson**

insaniak wrote:
Haighus wrote:

Oh, wow. They look terrible for 3rd ed models!

The 3rd ed Aspects were all fairly dire. They were done by trainee sculptors (mostly Juan Diaz, IIRC) under Gary Morley's tutelage, so for the most part they look on par with many of Morley's more awkward sculpts.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
The scout version doesn't have the weird ergonomic vibes I am getting off the armoured version which is what is putting me off... The armoured version almost looks Tau-ish, but the scout does not.

Yeah, the more curved lines on the front do lend it something of a Tau look. I think the difference on the scout version is that the rollcage breaks up the panel lines, and looks enough like the current model that it still clicks.

Looking at it again, I did find something else that I like about it, though... those mudguards over the hips. That's a nice little detail.

The new Sentinel is pretty good, but I still love the classic. At least the two make sense as simply different patterns of the same base design. Classic is a simpler design, stamped out in bulk factories on frontier worlds en masses, while the new one comes from proper forges overseen by full tech priests. It looks like it has more STC elements, with feet that resemble Armiger Knights and elements of the Onager in the armored cockpit.

**The_Real_Chris**

Swastakowey wrote:
As long as I have been an adult the imperial guard codex releases have been really disappointing. I'm especially disgusted at the weapon restrictions. I don't think it's going to look nice on the table.

I think 8th was a good compromise, with a lot of call backs to the past and probably the last time we will get most of our collections featured in such a way.

**Swastakowey**

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Swastakowey wrote:
As long as I have been an adult the imperial guard codex releases have been really disappointing. I'm especially disgusted at the weapon restrictions. I don't think it's going to look nice on the table.

I think 8th was a good compromise, with a lot of call backs to the past and probably the last time we will get most of our collections featured in such a way.

Personally I found 5th edition to be the compromise edition, it still had characters, the platoon, heaps of units even ones that didnt exist etc. Then after that I havent enjoyed any guard codex despite guard being my favourite faction.

**Scottywan82**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Them and the Phoenix Lords. I think that's about it as far as ancient models go.

After that it's Azrael and Dante, IIRC.

insaniak wrote:
I do like the articulation on the chainsaw. The rest of it is ok... and would probably have been a great release if the existing sentinel didn't already exist.
This is why I recently bought two of the current Sentinels. It's not that the new ones are bad, they're just so unnecessary. The Basilisk is still using the same plastic sprues from when I was in high school, yet we are getting a new Sentinel, of all things?

It's almost on-brand for the Phoenix Lords at least.

**Gibblets**

The armoured Sentinel looks like it belongs in the Fallout universe with the rounded armour on it. The scout looks just fine otherwise. It looks like the engine was up armoured on these designs, much like I converted my 9 sentinels to be

**Strg Alt**

General Hobbs wrote:

So....while I do like how these are painted....

Aren't most military vehicles just thrown into the motorpool and a big paint sprayer used to put the base colors on, and then any camo colors?

Meaning that, the shiny metal bitz would be all painted as well.

Painting a good miniature is often about sacrificing what is real vs what looks good, but the shiny metal bitz have always gotten to me. I guess each to their own.

I think I have 9 sentinels floating around and I have never been happy with the paint job. Might have to go with the contrasting thing.

Dull the metallics with Agrax Earthshade.

**NAVARRO**

Strg Alt wrote:
General Hobbs wrote:

So....while I do like how these are painted....

Aren't most military vehicles just thrown into the motorpool and a big paint sprayer used to put the base colors on, and then any camo colors?

Meaning that, the shiny metal bitz would be all painted as well.

Painting a good miniature is often about sacrificing what is real vs what looks good, but the shiny metal bitz have always gotten to me. I guess each to their own.

I think I have 9 sentinels floating around and I have never been happy with the paint job. Might have to go with the contrasting thing.

Dull the metallics with Agrax Earthshade.

Would be great to see a tutorial about those Sentinels green parts, specially the reddish dark shadows.

**Hankovitch**

General Hobbs wrote:

So....while I do like how these are painted....

Aren't most military vehicles just thrown into the motorpool and a big paint sprayer used to put the base colors on, and then any camo colors?

Meaning that, the shiny metal bitz would be all painted as well.

Painting a good miniature is often about sacrificing what is real vs what looks good, but the shiny metal bitz have always gotten to me. I guess each to their own.

At least when it comes to the lower legs, it more or less makes sense that the shafts and ball joints that are bearing on one another would be a bare, chromed metal, since any attempt to paint such a part would be immediately scraped off by the load-bearing components sliding across one another. Metallic sheen on other parts of the machine is more to do with artistic license.

**ph34r**

I'm trying to decide if I should get a bunch of old sentinels as the new ones don't look amazing. My main concern is I'm sure there will be some new bespoke weapon that is only in the new box...

**necrontyrOG**

I think I want two more old sentinels to make a nice even 12, and then one of the new ones to make a commander.

**JWBS**

New ones are much better imo. Like most people I love the old style and have maybe a half dozen but comparing them to the new one they just lose. Luckily mine are for my GSC and fit that role better than the new version possibly could so all the new Sentinels I buy will be Imperial aligned.

**Kanluwen**

For anyone interested, this is the new Cadian transfer sheet out of Shadowvaults.

**kurhanik**

To me personally, the make or break point of the new Sentinels (besides the price probably) will be whether the legs are poseable. The brilliance of the current kit is that you can pretty much wiggle the legs however the feth you want, which gives you many options of walking poses, or angling the legs to be stepping over/on items on basing material, etc. If the new kit has a single leg loadout that will suck.

I too obtained 2 more of the old kit a month or two back before it goes away. Its honestly a shame to see it going away, it is a fantastic kit.

**Shakalooloo**

The playing card suits are a cool idea, but why do them just in white and black? Surely the hearts and diamonds earn a red, at least?

**H.B.M.C.**

That's a shame. There are no unique backpacks for the Plasma Gunner, Meltagunner or Grenade Launcher guy.

**BlackoCatto**

Kanluwen wrote:

For anyone interested, this is the new Cadian transfer sheet out of Shadowvaults.

Very Cadian centric but makes sense for a Cadian unit.

**H.B.M.C.**

To be fair, it's a "Cadian Transfer Sheet", and not an "Imperia-", sorry, "Astra Millawhatnow Transfer Sheet".

**cuda1179**

Remember when Space Marines were the "Adeptus Astares" on their codex before reverting back to "Space Marines"? I really, really hope they go back to calling this book Imperial Guard.

**H.B.M.C.**

Were Marines ever "Adeptus Astartes" on their Codex?

**cuda1179**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Were Marines ever "Adeptus Astartes" on their Codex?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were in like 8th, possibly 7th edition.

**H.B.M.C.**

7th and 8th had Codex: Adeptus Astartes Space Marines. That's the closest.

**Frankenberry**

Was pretty hyped for the new army/army box but after reading the recent batch of leaks I'm...less excited. The sheer amount of gak I have to keep track of is just insane and as much as I love the new models I think I'm going to pass.

And if rumors are even close to true about a new edition that's even more of a reason for me to avoid this release.

**H.B.M.C.**

This Guard release might be the most stark example of "Be careful what you wish for!" since the new Ork Boyz...

**Kcalehc**

Somewhat disappointed in the restriction of options. Having converted Veterans, I'm hoping I can remodel them and play them as Kasrkin at the least. Not sure I'm as excited now as I was hoping I would be.

**Geifer**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
This Guard release might be the most stark example of "Be careful what you wish for!" since the new Ork Boyz...

I wish GW kept using the Decision Dartboard of Destiny™ but added blindfolds and alcohol, said I. I regret nothing!

**General Hobbs**

Frankenberry wrote:
Was pretty hyped for the new army/army box but after reading the recent batch of leaks I'm...less excited. The sheer amount of gak I have to keep track of is just insane and as much as I love the new models I think I'm going to pass.

And if rumors are even close to true about a new edition that's even more of a reason for me to avoid this release.

I agree. I was just thinking the same thing. I'm Sad I never really got to play with the stormtrooper rules or the tank/artillery rules.

I'm also sad no one thought to say....let's do 2-3 pages of a Stormtrooper army.

Hopefully they will again have rules for them giving them unique flavor...

**JohnnyHell**

Love the Second Ed company/platoon split circle icons coming back! (Tbh may even predate that but I remember these from the original metal Cadians etc. - shame you have to layer transfers to get the number on them with these versions mind you?

**Kanluwen**

Initial reviews of Shadowvaults have Kasrkin Sergeants being able to take Hellguns, like the rest of the squad...

I'M DARING TO DREAM GUYS.

**MajorWesJanson**

Shakalooloo wrote:
The playing card suits are a cool idea, but why do them just in white and black? Surely the hearts and diamonds earn a red, at least?

I'm kinda amused that in the 38000 years of the future, playing cards finally picked up a fifth suit.