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**JohnnyHell**

Tank Commander scars match those of Pask

**MajorWesJanson**

JohnnyHell wrote:
Tank Commander scars match those of Pask

Cant be him though, he has 5 fingers.

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AtoMaki wrote:
- I've spotted a guardsman with rolled-up sleeves on one of the pictures in the 'dex but I can't find those arms on either the Shock Troops sprue, the Command Squad sprue, or here. What gives?

We havent seen all the bits that make up the new Cadian HW Teams yet.

**Tsagualsa**

AtoMaki wrote:

- He carries a hatched. A power hatchet? No. A cyber-hatchet? No, just a regular hatchet. This galaxy is weird.

Sometimes you just need to chop some firewood, get a couple of branches to camouflage your dugout or open a specially resistant can of corpse starch without obliterating everything in the vicinity with your HyperAdze3000

**tauist**

Ahh ok so now you really can build a Vet Guard Killteam using nuCads. Still prefer DKoK meself but I bet many guard fans will like this.

**CthuluIsSpy**

AtoMaki wrote:
xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/04/new-year-new-bayonets-the-cadians-get-an-upgrade-sprue-crammed-with-characterful-components/

Marketing to the rescue! (I guess this was meant to be next Monday's article)

A few details I have noticed:
- A ski hat, I think that's a first.
- He carries a hatched. A power hatchet? No. A cyber-hatchet? No, just a regular hatchet. This galaxy is weird.
- You are supposed to remove the magazine from the gun used as a grave marker.
- Speaking of guns, the sling holder in the front is in the way of the bayonet. So how does the bayonet fit onto the gun?
- I will forever miss Corporal Hentai Kamen.
- The belt-fed autogun looks a little bizarre, but plausibly bizarre: other than the belt feeding onto the wrong side the autogun has a cover to accustom the belt-fed firing mechanism. I like that detail.
- The two kneeling bodies display the kneepads correctly.
- I've spotted a guardsman with rolled-up sleeves on one of the pictures in the 'dex but I can't find those arms on either the Shock Troops sprue, the Command Squad sprue, or here. What gives?

Would they even use their gun as a grave marker? Wouldn't the Ad Mech / Munitorum get really mad about perfectly good equipment being left behind?
The hatchet doesn't bother me; most irl armies have some sort of tool at their disposal. Not only for emergency self defense, but to break barricades, gather supplies, etc.

Doesn't the M249 have a cover mechanism like that? It can take magazines as well as belts, so maybe the designers used that as a template?
I actually like seeing them have an autogun. Not sure if it's fluffy (why boolet when lazor?), but its a nice little detail that mixes things up a little.

**The_Real_Chris**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Would they even use their gun as a grave marker? Wouldn't the Ad Mech / Munitorum get really mad about perfectly good equipment being left behind?

I would assume the weapon is bust in some way the troops don't understand, or they can't carry it and want to mark the gravesite of a corpse they are leaving behind? I wonder what the reason behind historical practice was?

**CthuluIsSpy**

The_Real_Chris wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Would they even use their gun as a grave marker? Wouldn't the Ad Mech / Munitorum get really mad about perfectly good equipment being left behind?

I would assume the weapon is bust in some way the troops don't understand, or they can't carry it and want to mark the gravesite of a corpse they are leaving behind? I wonder what the reason behind historical practice was?

So after a bit of a quick google it seems the weapons were used as temporary markers; what would happen is that they bury the soldier at the front lines, leave his gun there as a reminder and then come back later with a proper grave marker.
Presumably it works the same here with the guard.

And no, they would not leave the weapon loaded.

I guess GW was too lazy to model a lasgun without the power pack.

**Tsagualsa**

The_Real_Chris wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Would they even use their gun as a grave marker? Wouldn't the Ad Mech / Munitorum get really mad about perfectly good equipment being left behind?

I would assume the weapon is bust in some way the troops don't understand, or they can't carry it and want to mark the gravesite of a corpse they are leaving behind? I wonder what the reason behind historical practice was?

According to wiki it started in WW 1 as a sign of respect towards the fallen soldiers. I strongly suspect that it was an image that was used in carricature, newspaper drawings and propaganda media before it was a thing people actually did, because it is such a powerful image that conveys a lot of information and feelingss in a very simple way.

**AtoMaki**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Doesn't the M249 have a cover mechanism like that? It can take magazines as well as belts, so maybe the designers used that as a template?

Oh, what I meant was that the belt feeding into the wrong side is bizarre but the designer bothering to give the gun a cover makes it plausible.

Also... I'm sad that nobody gets the hatchet reference

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**Shadow Walker**

Very cool upgrade kit. Hopefully more like this incoming, and for other armies too.

**MajorWesJanson**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Very cool upgrade kit. Hopefully more like this incoming, and for other armies too.

Quite a few good options for an upgrade kit like this- Kabalite Trueborn, Wych Bloodbrides, Farsight Enclaves, Ork Nobz, Deathwatch Kill Teams, GSC Brood Brothers

**KillerAngel**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Doesn't the M249 have a cover mechanism like that? It can take magazines as well as belts, so maybe the designers used that as a template?
I actually like seeing them have an autogun. Not sure if it's fluffy (why boolet when lazor?), but its a nice little detail that mixes things up a little.

I actually get more Stoner 63 vibes (combined with a bit of M1A1 Thompson) than M249.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

AtoMaki wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Doesn't the M249 have a cover mechanism like that? It can take magazines as well as belts, so maybe the designers used that as a template?

Oh, what I meant was that the belt feeding into the wrong side is bizarre but the designer bothering to give the gun a cover makes it plausible.

Also... I'm sad that nobody gets the hatchet reference .

Feeds like a PKM.

**Matrindur**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/04/cadia-stands-fast-with-this-months-free-in-store-miniature-and-coin/

January 28th for the miniature. So full Guard should be preorder on the 21st for release on the 28th since it was the same for the Votann mini and their army set

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Is it just me, or are having better proportioned Guard models somehow made them seem all the more heroic?

No bulging muscles, just a pretty average bod. Yet there they, trusty Lasgun and one-size-fits-none uniform against the very worst the Galaxy has.

**cuda1179**

I kinda hope they end up doing an upgrade sprue for Catachans and Kreig as well. It would breath some more life into the models, especially if they flesh out the weapon options a bit

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I’d rather a new Catachan kit first, then the upgrade!

Man those models were crap when they came out.

**Geifer**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d rather a new Catachan kit first, then the upgrade!

Man those models were crap when they came out.

Seconded, but at least the Cadian upgrade set shows that GW is willing to do both pretty much simultaneously, which is about the best case scenario.

Now they just have to go and actually redo those Catachans.

**skeleton**

On the picture there is a arm with no hand, so i can give my sarge a pistol ?

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**BrookM**

skeleton wrote:
On the picture there is a arm with no hand, so i can give my sarge a pistol ? .

You already can. And the arm with no hand goes with the lasgun that has a bayonet on it.

**MajorWesJanson**

skeleton wrote:
On the picture there is a arm with no hand, so i can give my sarge a pistol ? .

Its to go with the rifle to the right which has a arm and 2 hands attached.

Kreig already got an upgrade sprue thanks to kill team. They would get more use out of a command squad kit, or a set of crew for field artillery. Or a Kreig HW squad with wheeled gun mounts.

**NinthMusketeer**

Not a guard player, but I do love upgrade kits. Let's the players who want their cheap & basic models get them, while players who want to invest for customized models can do that too. Everyone wins!

**Kanluwen**

Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

Reposting this for those who've commented about doing additional regiments via upgrade frames.

GW's been doing design work for awhile now. You can see the new Tallarn design there. That wouldn't work with just an upgrade frame sadly.

The Indigan Praefects(shotgunner) are commonly shown as a kitbashed faction and the Mordian and Tanith designs aren't super new.

**EightFoldPath**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is it just me, or are having better proportioned Guard models somehow made them seem all the more heroic?

Yes, I do like to see a scale difference between the human armies and the super human armies, I feel it fits the narrative better for both sides.

**Fayric**

I will totally make a unit with 6 respirator heads and 4 guys ordered to hold their breath in case they smell something suspicious.
Ofcourse you need a darned good reason to get the Munitorum to approve sending respirators to a full squad.
Great upgrade sprue all around.

**AtoMaki**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is it just me, or are having better proportioned Guard models somehow made them seem all the more heroic?

Kinda, but I don't think in the right way. With the more realistic proportions but otherwise quite detailed and packed appearance they look like a bunch of millennials LARPing as a 40k military force. They remind me of those guys who cosplayed as Elysian Drop Troops, it is the same overall somewhat-off-putting-cosplay feel between the proportions and the details.

**Ancient Otter**

Are there enough parts on this to cover the Veteran Guard kill team roster with this with this and 2 regular Cadian boxes?

**Tsagualsa**

Fayric wrote:
I will totally make a unit with 6 respirator heads and 4 guys ordered to hold their breath in case they smell something suspicious.
Ofcourse you need a darned good reason to get the Munitorum to approve sending respirators to a full squad.
Great upgrade sprue all around.

Have the 4 guys wear berets with a yellow feathers

**BrookM**

Ancient Otter wrote:
Are there enough parts on this to cover the Veteran Guard kill team roster with this with this and 2 regular Cadian boxes?

Only things missing are a sniper rifle, boltgun, plasma pistol and demolition charge from the top of my head. Most other roles can easily be represented by the parts provided in the upgrade kit.

**Dread Master**

The female Cadian heads look daft on the bodies. They should just sculpt something that better reflects a female silhouette. Really nice extras on that sprue though.