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Every model of the month have picked up since last year (barring one or two examples where they broke down an existing box) has been a unique molded one shot (of an existing figure - like that image shows). Its been running around my mind thinking about the investment to one shot a throw away mini (any left at the store at end of month are sent back for destruction) that they distribute around the world, yet they limited release stuff that never sees the light of day again. Truly bizarre.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Coming back to the vehicle - can anyone spot where the second hard point is for the flamer?
The stubber is super obvious but I'm playing wheres wally for the flamer and cant spot it or an obvious second hardpoint.
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Overread wrote: Huh -- that's - that's unique. I can fathom quite why GW would do that unless they have some plan for individual sale of that model later. Perhaps as some planned side game or boxed game for book/toy shops or such.
This is pretty normal. Many Miniatures of the Month have been their own unique sprue (even if the mini itself is a simple reproduction of something else). Shows how much the costs of mould making have gone down if they can make one-off sprues that they ship around the world each month and give them away for free.
Surely they'll be passing the savings onto their customers any day now...
Overread wrote: Huh -- that's - that's unique. I can fathom quite why GW would do that unless they have some plan for individual sale of that model later. Perhaps as some planned side game or boxed game for book/toy shops or such.
This is pretty normal. Many Miniatures of the Month have been their own unique sprue (even if the mini itself is a simple reproduction of something else). Shows how much the costs of mould making have gone down if they can make one-off sprues that they ship around the world each month and give them away for free.
Surely they'll be passing the savings onto their customers any day now...
Ahh I'd honestly not even really looked at mini of the month for ages since most of the time was just regular models split up. I guess the policy must have resulted in enough new people joining in and sales boosts from retail staff reports that they figured it was worth the investment.
But yeah that does surprise me that they are doing it this way! I guess maybe when you're a firm the size of GW its cheaper to make a mould and print than it is to pay staff to sit there for half an hour with a pair of clippers clipping up regular stock.
They probably have a special machine for these things that is paid for through their advertising sundries budget rather than their normal operating budget. Companies can be weird.
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Overread wrote: I guess the policy must have resulted in enough new people joining in and sales boosts from retail staff reports that they figured it was worth the investment.
Certainly seems that way. I mean, I'd be going in today to get the Sternguard mini of the store near my work wasn't closed for stocktake!
Overread wrote: But yeah that does surprise me that they are doing it this way!
You and me both. I expected a sprue all cut to bits, but the first time I went to get one I saw all these little boxes and little tiny sprues.
Overread wrote: I guess maybe when you're a firm the size of GW its cheaper to make a mould and print than it is to pay staff to sit there for half an hour with a pair of clippers clipping up regular stock.
Certainly quicker than that, and it also means that they're all the same. Can't rush in and build a cool Sergeant out of the best bits from the Sternguard kit or whatever; it's just the same Bolter Marine for everyone.
For me, it has come in very handy, as I need 12 Saurus Warriors for Warhammer Quest, and they come in boxes of 10. So I got a mini of the month Saurus, as did a friend of mine, and now I'll have 12 (once I get the box of 10! ).
It might also be that it looks more professional too. Instead of a little zipbag of bits or a hacked up sprue you get a clean, neat sprue and set to take home.
Something that we established people won't really care about too much; but to anyone new that kind of better presentation can make a huge difference. Esp when this is rolled out as a major feature and not just a store staffer doing something fun because they can (which I get the feeling was the kind of vibe they started this scheme with).
And heck if its working that well and store staff are focusing on newbies with the scheme too; then that's all the better for everyone else. More new people joining the hobby!
I'm joining the "cool vehicle, but resin, meh" chorus. Those raised tracks are giving me migraines, I can feel the corners snapping everytime the vehicle is not handed with the utmost care.
And that's not something you want on a hugely expensive model.
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As someone who has built a Baneblade and a Stormblade before the plastic kit was ever a thing, the resin tracks on this new kit are already giving me nightmares.
The model of the month switched over to a bespoke custom sprue instead of just being snipped from a regular box sometime last year iirc. They use aluminum molds instead of steel, costs them like $5-10k tops to produce the mold and a penny's worth of plastic to produce each model. Its basically part of their marketing budget at that point.
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Don’t forget the time/cost of designing the mini to be sectioned out and fit into the mould, with all of the right gate positions to guarantee the plastic will fill the mould properly. Which if they’re using existing designs just on a single sprue has already been 90% done for the minis of the month.
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chaos0xomega wrote: The model of the month switched over to a bespoke custom sprue instead of just being snipped from a regular box sometime last year iirc. They use aluminum molds instead of steel, costs them like $5-10k tops to produce the mold and a penny's worth of plastic to produce each model. Its basically part of their marketing budget at that point.
Yeah, this – you can make plastic injection moulds more cheaply by using aluminium (or certain other metals) instead of steel, but they're not as durable. So, no good for stock items that might be required to produce tens of thousands of units over their lifetime, but ideal for a short term promotional or giveaway model like this. The impact on GW's overall capacity is very minimal (the miniature is already designed, some minor re-engineering to put it on its own sprue, cutting the tool, and just one injection moulding machine running for a short time to build up the stock). So, it's not really a choice between this and putting some other kit into plastic.
I think thats probably news to most of us, except maybe HBMC as Dakkas resident terrain guru.
Its bizarre reading this article though in light of the new kill team terrain pieces being a lower height than the sector mechanicus standard. Makes me wonder how they are intended to fit together with the existing kits, if at all.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
chaos0xomega wrote: I think thats probably news to most of us, except maybe HBMC as Dakkas resident terrain guru.
Its bizarre reading this article though in light of the new kill team terrain pieces being a lower height than the sector mechanicus standard. Makes me wonder how they are intended to fit together with the existing kits, if at all.
You can bet top dollar that the new Kill Zone is half height Mechanicus, which means it lines up with the platform halfway up the Plasma Regulator and with the tops of Zone Mortalis walls. Shame they didn't throw in some stairs that could link up the the full height Mechanicus. Zone Mortalis stairs are probably the right height but might need some converting to attach.
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TBH, the walkways don’t look that different to the rest. The pillars and the circular platform are the novelties. Anyway, with all the existing cross-compatibility it would be kind of crazy for them not to be half height with the same peg system.
Edit: finally the missing link between the regular Sector Mechanicus platforms and the thermic plasma regulators
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His Master's Voice wrote: Every new Necromunda Squat release is a stark reminded of how much more fitting their aesthetic is for 40k, compared to the Votann.
Yeah, I have no idea why dwarves that assimilated into 40K society and lived there for 10K years look more fitting than dwarves that are supposed to be throwback to pre-Imperial humanity. It's a mystery
Overread wrote: It might also be that it looks more professional too. Instead of a little zipbag of bits or a hacked up sprue you get a clean, neat sprue and set to take home.
Also, more professional in a sense that a lot of kits have specific parts working with each body (and before certain someone whines about their favorite strawman, this is not a new thing, SW and DA terminators from the past also have certain weapons/body fronts/legs not fitting with each other at all) so there is less of a chance of getting mini with a horrible gaps or mismatched arms which would burn new customer pretty badly.
Let's ignore crap details, clipping of things into each other for 'durability' that looks horrible, and thin parts such as swords or cloaks thicker than they are wide, slippage, warping, miscasts, bad curing, all things that would be dealbreakers on their own, and look how working with resin works:
This video is supposed to be an advertisement. Yet what we see at 4:10? Ah, yes, colossal pillar of resin going into detailed area that is easily visible from all sides (instead of, oh, the flat armor plate next to it, or even better, the frakking part that is going to be inside the model once assembled) that you need to gently shave down, then resculpt/carve complex details it obliterated by hand.
I’m genuinely tempted to do a side-by-side comparison of a big kit...say a Thunderhawk or something...with the FW one and a recast version.
I doubt I’d ever get around to it, but it’s tempting. I haven’t ordered a recast model in a while, but it seems like the last times I did the castings were crisper than their FW counterparts, which was a far cry from the earlier days of recasting when you were lucky if you got something that was halfway usable.
On topic, I’m excited about the Van Saar stuff for ash wastes finally getting released. I may finally pick up the ash wastes starter that’s at a local shop for 25% off so that I can get my Goliath and Van Saar gangs together for an Ash Waste campaign between me and a neighbor!
I am really excited to get my hands on this book. I've enjoyed the story of the campaign and I really want to understand more about House Aranthus and Lady Credo. I feel like we don't even know how old they are, despite House Aranthus disappearing in M40. If the house is related to the Iron Lords, though, I don't understand why they haven't tried to overthrow the Helmawrs until now. Hopefully we get at least a few answers in the ensuing chaos.
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