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Armor looks normal size, just the Turian collar throws off the normal proportions around head.

He’s…unexpectedly plain. And I think I like it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He’s…unexpectedly plain. And I think I like it.

I think it's deliberate: the 30k Librarians still hold to the idea of doing 'sciency' warp/psy stuff, while the Esoterists are already at the goat-head staff and eery crystals stage of realizing what they're dealing with.

Agh I just snagged the traitor consul helmet yesterday. Oh well. The model is plain but still cool. The lack of psychic hood is weird. I know they’re not necessary but you think a loyalist would take more precautions. Unless the coke is the hood? I may not need to even convert to the AoD praetors since they both have them

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He’s…unexpectedly plain. And I think I like it.

So do I.

I have the Age of Darkness box but was lacking inspiration.

This model and the Fafnir Rann I picked up means I'm looking at a small Imperial Fist force. I've done UMs to death previously using the Calth and Prospero boxes and the various Contrast paints available mean I'm no longer scared of painting a yellow army.

He's so much better than the plastic Mk 7 librarian, whose shoulder-cherub is just way too extra, and he's not even standing on a tactical f-ing rock!

I think it’s fine.

It’s wild to me that since they started doing Praetors for each legion years ago, there’s been a big second edition with unprecedented model support, and a weekly reveal article that’s been pretty clearly running out of things to show towards the end, and there are still a handful of legions that we’ve not seen specific praetor models for.

Iron Hands, Salamanders, World eaters and Raven Guard are the holdouts roght?

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I'm usually all for clean, uncluttered sculpts but that is one impressively boring model. Think it's probably just the pose.

I think its mostly the paint job. The blue upon blue upon blue doesn't contrast well with the eye-biting yellow, plus all the other minor accent colors.

Though the thikk cloak is, as usual, not doing any favors. (I'm honestly not sure if the loincloth and cloak are separate pieces or not, and that's disturbing).

I like the Librarian. Very cool model. Shame it is resin.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Iron Hands, Salamanders, World eaters and Raven Guard are the holdouts roght?

Off the top of my head yeah, although the Iron Hands do have an Iron Father sculpt which is Praetor-adjacent, and Space Wolves only have the (rubbish) Terminator one, no power armour one (Thousand Sons too actually although I like their one).

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Iron Hands, Salamanders, World eaters and Raven Guard are the holdouts roght?

And Iron Warriors. IIRC space wolves need a Terminator version and Thousand sons need a non terminator. They they can start doing (jet)bike and jump versions for everyone. Plus only like 4 or 5 legions have Leviathan dreadnoughts.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Iron Hands, Salamanders, World eaters and Raven Guard are the holdouts roght?

And Iron Warriors. IIRC space wolves need a Terminator version and Thousand sons need a non terminator. They they can start doing (jet)bike and jump versions for everyone. Plus only like 4 or 5 legions have Leviathan dreadnoughts.

Space Wolves have their Terminator, they lack a Power Armor one.

Although they may as well redo the terminator one while they’re there…

There's clearly a narrative to be forged here, where the nerdy Librarian is being bullied by the chad plastic Consuls, who have stolen all of his bling.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
There's clearly a narrative to be forged here, where the nerdy Librarian is being bullied by the chad plastic Consuls, who have stolen all of his bling.

All the bling was confiscated at Nikea.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
There's clearly a narrative to be forged here, where the nerdy Librarian is being bullied by the chad plastic Consuls, who have stolen all of his bling.

All the bling was confiscated at Nikea.

Reformation.... iconoclasm... HERESY!

sectarian jokes aside. it's a meh model. Meh,

 tauist wrote:
So Epic HH is coming and HH2.0 plastic allocations are all out for the time being.

That's it, I'm selling my HH rulebook.. oh wait, I already sold it when I got the epub versions!

This would be EPIC news if true.


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 Shadow Walker wrote:
I like the Librarian. Very cool model. Shame it is resin.

Agreed. This mean available via Forge World? If so hard pass.

If in doubt you could always snag some extra bits from the grey knights box? Give them a bit of extra libraian flair. or a hood should you want it.

Admittedly that does go down the route of just using a grey knight as your consul.

I really like that Librarian - I'm actually tempted to pick one up as a 40k Libby, if I remember.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
Maybe they should have released the bloody assault marines then!

Hey now let' not get kuh-ray-zee

My totally baseless hope: at Fest they say they're just putting HH on hold for the 40k reboot and reveal a new big box (with assault marines) that's coming in fall. I think that would be a healthy way to make people wait calmly, so obviously they won't do it.

They should just release a roadmap for the game, like they do with other sidegames. Their 'Security by Obscurity' approach is totally anachronistic.

THIS. Seriously, I don't care if assault marines aren't due till DEC if I KNOW that they are in the works. I can plan/save. This whole, "Ya, no, we're keeping anything long term hidden", is par for the course at GW and brutally stupid.

Lovely looking mini but a shame it is in resin. The uncluttered look works well with the rest of the Heresy line.

Not sure I like the lack of hood, but they're not hard to jimmy up from a pauldron.

Not even releasing those 'stop gap' assault arms yet?
Jeez, how long do we have to wait.

I guess GW have their project releases all mapped out and we just have to keep on waiting till the game is dead. All ready for the new HH v3.0 with assault marines in 2 years time.
:-(

#losing-interest

So do people just not kitbash nowadays or what?

You can't kitbash a Mk7 jump pack into anything that would look like it belongs in 30k.

You absolutely can.

Zephon's jump pack is just a fancy Mk7 pack and he wears Mk6 armour. On top of that, the Chaos Raptor packs are Heresy designs and easy to de-Chaos. For Chainswords and Bolt Pistols, there are how many different kits that provide them? It's not like we're pre-Black Book Heresy trying to get as many Heresy pattern helmets as possible from the 4 plastic kits that had them.
Outside of GW products, there are plenty of sellers who make compatible bits people could use.
It's never about finding solutions, it's always just about complaining as much as possible.

 Gert wrote:
It's never about finding solutions, it's always just about complaining as much as possible.

Or it's always just about defending the brand your personality revolves around? I got plenty of solutions, the biggest one is called a Saturn 2. It's GW that needs a solution to stop losing sales over asinine reasons such as refusing to provide a basic troop unit that half the factions need to function.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Gert wrote:
It's never about finding solutions, it's always just about complaining as much as possible.

Or it's always just about defending the brand your personality revolves around? I got plenty of solutions, the biggest one is called a Saturn 2. It's GW that needs a solution to stop losing sales over asinine reasons such as refusing to provide a basic troop unit that half the factions need to function.

It's GW that needs a solution to stop losing sales over ridiculous reasons, such as refusing to provide a plastic basic troop unit for each faction in Horus Heresy.

Marines can sit down.

How is explicitly saying "Just go to other places" defending GW?
Just because I'm not going for GW every single week doesn't mean I'm defending the company. If people won't take advice and fix their issues then they shouldn't be endlessly complaining. Just my opinion.

I like the look of the Librarian model, but didn't the Imperial Fists not use their Librarians during the Heresy? Why is he then painted that way? Also, making the model resin is a big L.