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I agree; its a perfectly cromulent model

I notice Valrak has mentioned on B&C about a HH box due soon and he said to watch for NOVA. Not sure of any other context tbh.

I could see them doing a box set with that Mark III stuff, kind of a splash release.

Repostign the probably cover again

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The evidence is a piece of artwork they've shown at a preview show that contains those units (also including a Mk3 support squad with volkites).

Since GW does not usually just make art in that style outside book covers or box covers and it's not the cover of Siege of Cthonia, it's a reasonable assumption it's a box cover.

I'd get mutiples tbh

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Repostign the probably cover again

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The evidence is a piece of artwork they've shown at a preview show that contains those units (also including a Mk3 support squad with volkites).

Since GW does not usually just make art in that style outside book covers or box covers and it's not the cover of Siege of Cthonia, it's a reasonable assumption it's a box cover.

I'd get mutiples tbh

I'm thinking 2 to start myself. Depends on if there are 20 or 30 troops in the box, and the price.

I'll take as many mkiii as possible for my 18th...both 30 & 40k.

If this happens, I'll take new mkiv for my EC

 GaroRobe wrote:
Yeah, but those weren't specifically for this game. And many of the models are clearly based on upcoming releases, from the assault squads, to the likely command set loadout. I could be wrong of course, but it's interesting they designed mk6 rapier crew

Well it was either rapier for epic or no rapier. Rapier without crew wasn't going to be a thing and if there's crew mk6 is only one they would do at this point.

So unless they are going to skip rapier entirely on epic it was going to have mk6 crew always.

Sunday Preview – The Noble Knight Lancer



Pre-order next weekend, and should find out cost in the next few days.

Are any of the Cerastus actually good in game tho?

Probably not amazing but considering I've wanted an Acheron since it came out but didn't want to build that large a FW model I'm very happy that I'll be able to get a plastic one pretty soon.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Are any of the Cerastus actually good in game tho?

Lancer bondsman is advance and charge, and has free tank shock as the ability. Plus 4++ built in. It's quite nasty.

I’d need to refresh myself on its rules, Spesh for 2nd Ed. But from memory?

If your opponent has Knights or Super Heavies, it’ll have a great time, as it’s fast a fairly survivable. But if they’ve gone for lots of wee stuff, it may struggle to have much of an impact.

I generally hate clear and tinted plastic for 'energy shields' and the like, but that shield looks weird and empty as is.

Could use panels to be painted in gemstone paints or something similar so it doesn't look like the knight is carting around an unfinished frame.

Voss wrote:
I generally hate clear and tinted plastic for 'energy shields' and the like, but that shield looks weird and empty as is.

Could use panels to be painted in gemstone paints or something similar so it doesn't look like the knight is carting around an unfinished frame.

This is my problem with the lancer. Shield is quite jarring compared to the rest of the model. I'd be inclined to remove it entirely and put a void shield generator (or something similar) on the hand ti represent the shield.

Voss wrote:
I generally hate clear and tinted plastic for 'energy shields' and the like, but that shield looks weird and empty as is.

Could use panels to be painted in gemstone paints or something similar so it doesn't look like the knight is carting around an unfinished frame.

Cut overhead projector transparency to size and glue in, use water effects gel (with some color mixed in possibly) to create wavy pattern, highlight wave crests (just do the whole thing according to tutorials for making 1:700-ish scale waves) with white, that's probably a better "energy field" look than you'll ever get from some transparent HIPS part.

...ofc probably a bit dodgy, at the price this'll be sold at, but it'll look amazing.

Maybe Taro will do some compatible shields as alternatives, like he's done with regular Knights.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe Taro will do some compatible shields as alternatives, like he's done with regular Knights.

Can't lie, some of those look pretty fantastic. Good for adding a little legion flair to some allied knights, like the scythes for death guard or loudspeakers for 3rd legion.

cody.d. wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe Taro will do some compatible shields as alternatives, like he's done with regular Knights.

Can't lie, some of those look pretty fantastic. Good for adding a little legion flair to some allied knights, like the scythes for death guard or loudspeakers for 3rd legion.

They really are. My Death Guard allied Chaos Knight has his bell to tie into the various Nurgle bells.

beast_gts wrote:
Sunday Preview – The Noble Knight Lancer

Spoiler:

Pre-order next weekend, and should find out cost in the next few days.

£120, €155

 DaveC wrote:
£120, €155

Thanks Dave. So a tenner more than the Dominus, and £105 less than FW.

 DaveC wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Sunday Preview – The Noble Knight Lancer

Spoiler:

Pre-order next weekend, and should find out cost in the next few days.

£120, €155

Remarkably OK tbh.

That isn't as bad as I thought. Of course its only a single build while the Dominus Knight has two but it is bigger and also seems to be a great kit in terms of posability so I'll take it as a win

Depending on the exact sprue layout, we may yet see Weapon Sprues sold separately once it’s chassis mates are out.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Depending on the exact sprue layout, we may yet see Weapon Sprues sold separately once it’s chassis mates are out.

I'd assume it'll work like the Armigers & Dominus kits. Release them separately for now and let people double- or triple- dip on the £120 models to get all the options. Then in a few years when sales have dipped they'll all get reboxed into a single product which covers all Cerastus variants.

Not what we’ve seen with Heresy though. Or indeed AT.

I’d argue the advantage to doing so is that where I might only field a single such Knight in a list, I’m unlikely to buy more than one. But by offering me more load outs for a comparatively modest cost? That’s how you get more money out my wallet.

Plastic Heresy stuff hasn't been around long enough for any repackaging yet.

However AT kits are all the right age and are getting repacked right now, so we should know quite soon if titan weapons get consolidated. Considering GW have actively reduced excess SKUs for Imperial Guard, Orks, and others in recent years I'd be very surprised if titans don't get all of their options in one box too.

If it’s 120 with the other weapon options it’s a day 1 buy for me. If not I want to know if the ranges options are a dual kit before making decisions.
Also it would leave more room in the August budget for LI so I’m OK with either.

Have we seen sprues for the Cerastus yet? I couldn't find them on WarCom, but I was certain i'd seen them floating about.

Unless it was just a fever dream of mine.

 xttz wrote:
Plastic Heresy stuff hasn't been around long enough for any repackaging yet.

However AT kits are all the right age and are getting repacked right now, so we should know quite soon if titan weapons get consolidated. Considering GW have actively reduced excess SKUs for Imperial Guard, Orks, and others in recent years I'd be very surprised if titans don't get all of their options in one box too.

I was more meaning stuff like the Leviathan Weapons, where as well as a choice of punchy or shooty base kit, you can procure the weapons as a separate sprue. As we can with AT weapons.

I think that would make sense. A Knight isn’t just a significant cash sink, but a significant points sink. Speaking for myself, but I suspect others will happily echo this opinion, I’d be more interested in buying a single one, and splashing a little extra cash for weapon options than I would be buy two or three big kits, which I’ll only use one of at any given time.

Even those with Knight armies? Yeah they’d almost certainly welcome a variety of arms to end up with a variety of models to use.

 Snrub wrote:
Have we seen sprues for the Cerastus yet? I couldn't find them on WarCom, but I was certain i'd seen them floating about.

Unless it was just a fever dream of mine.

IIRC the Acheron sprues have been leaked, maybe you're remembering that

https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378724-cerastus-knight-acheron-sprue-leak/