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Goonhammer reviews are up as well on their website for all the books.
Read the article on generic Legion units and main rules.
They don't pull punches on talking about how the wargear removals will have an impact on people's armies and the fact the core rules are written like a corporate legal document.
Even in the sections where the articles are positive (Challenges being one) they are still clear the way its written is going to put people off.
The most hilarious takeaway is that there is apparently a big note in the book that every single rule should be read through because this edition is nothing like any previous edition and assuming the rules are similar will mean you'll get them wrong.
So much for "The Horus Heresy you all know and love".
It's as wordy a f***. It could be rewritten with half the word count. There's an ok, maybe even good game, hidden under all that verbiage. It's not the first time it was 'good game, s*** rulebook' and I'm sure it won't be the last.
The reduction of customization is a blow. I felt certain they'd release a 'commander' set - like the old 40 commander with a bunch of the options they could take. Oh well.
I've been going back and forth over whether or not I should buy the Saturnine set. Alchemist Workshop have 300 in stock at the time of writing, so I guess that there's no rush
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Whether you're gonna play the game or not, it's still really quite a good deal vs buying the contents individually. I use one page rules for heresy, so there's enough in there to keep me going for ages, and with any luck I can flip the book for a tenner or so
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The removal of so many options is just plain ridiculous IMO. Otherwise this might have been a good edition.
The box sets will be a deal $$$ wise compared to if you buy it all separately but IMO the old V2 Army books will just stay on my shelf for now.
I decided to go with 2 boxes mainly for all the new kit which im sure will cost a ton when its in individual boxes, rules are whatever will just sell off at least 1 book maybe both if they continuing making it worse than V2.
Did pick up the journal hoping its worthwhile with story/scenarios and anything else they add.
Didnt and not buying any of the new army books--all the removals make them a waste IMO. As well the Legion trait/unit changes seem all over the place...instead of using this as a chance to fix mistakes they just repeated mistakes or made things actively worse in some of the various legion rules....
I guess outside some specific resin units they still need to sell which they made much better. This is pure crappy marketing and its done very badly.
Also ordered two set of the Melee Weapons. With 80 MkII, I’m gonna be doing a lot of more Veteran units, something which various hitting sticks are welcome.
Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Also ordered two set of the Melee Weapons. With 80 MkII, I’m gonna be doing a lot of more Veteran units, something which various hitting sticks are welcome.
Melee veterans are jump only sorry to say if you want to be wysiwyg
I want to make sure I didn't miss something but there really isn't any need for FOMO on the box, right? This will be like AoD in that it should be available for awhile yes?
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Also ordered two set of the Melee Weapons. With 80 MkII, I’m gonna be doing a lot of more Veteran units, something which various hitting sticks are welcome.
Melee veterans are jump only sorry to say if you want to be wysiwyg
Can still equip Veteran Sarge differently and that. The rest, I’ll await Book In Hand plans.
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Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
I'd already talked myself into waiting on the new box and just grabbing the books instead, but them putting a box in the BRB about how they basically lied straight to our faces has me feeling like taking the money I was gonna use for the books to another company.
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The most hilarious takeaway is that there is apparently a big note in the book that every single rule should be read through because this edition is nothing like any previous edition and assuming the rules are similar will mean you'll get them wrong. So much for "The Horus Heresy you all know and love".
All of the marketing and developer comments were about how this was basically a revamp and would be like 2.0(which we all of course knew was false when the leaks happened), it's the fact that the developers knew about this callout and still tried to sell it that way that leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Corpos be corpos and all that, but I feel like this is something that shouldn't get my dollars.
Automatically Appended Next Post: So I've gotten to see the book. There's 6 pages used to define what they mean when they use a term like Turn. The last definition is a definition of what a Rule is. There's then 3 pages of pictures, and the next page with game text, they put the definition of Rule word for word again. They felt the need to define what a Rule is twice within 4 pages.
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In the realm of big stompy robots, they have actually figured out how to make Titanic objectives make sense.
Instead of standing on central objectives, you now attack off table targets.
Also, I love the idea taking a 3,500 point Warlord titan as your entire army... I just need to borrow a couple thousand dollars from someone to help me buy one.
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Why are the Liber Astartes and Hereticus books $5 USD more than they were listed on the trade sheet? They were listed as $65 USD on the trade sheet and they are $70 on the website.
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Also, I love the idea taking a 3,500 point Warlord titan as your entire army... I just need to borrow a couple thousand dollars from someone to help me buy one.
As much as I fancy an Armiger as my Kill Team, or a Questoris as a Combat Patrol...
I find it facinating that on roll out day of a new edition a good 92-95% of the Heresy minitures line is "Out of Stock".
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I'd assume they're out of stock for repackaging for the new edition.
Its been impossible to get any of the resin stuff for years now. Unless you are actively checking your emails for restock alerts daily they might come back in stock with 3 or 4 and then they're gone again.
