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Yep you can take both Mercs and Allies - one of which is Dwarfs but noted as Suspicious

What is a Marauder Giant? Is that not just the giant model from AoS namely differently?

 nathan2004 wrote:
What is a Marauder Giant? Is that not just the giant model from AoS namely differently?

This one

 nathan2004 wrote:
What is a Marauder Giant? Is that not just the giant model from AoS namely differently?

This guy...

 nathan2004 wrote:
What is a Marauder Giant? Is that not just the giant model from AoS namely differently?

No, it’s a really old metal giant from an early edition. It was very good looking for it’s day though and impressively tall though so is fondly remembered.

GW we’re selling it direct sales up to late 6th Ed.

Looks like the 6th Ed O&G giant (remastered in resin) is going to be the main giant for TOW, but good to see a MTO of the Marauder one.

So, any sign of the PDFs?

I think it still holds up today. I was lucky enough to own one, and stupid enough to have sold it.

I’m almost certainly treating myself when the MTO rolls around.

 DaveC wrote:
The Troll Hag returns!

Box is underwhelming probably just get individual kits

Well individual kits means higher price if you get all so what kits you drop?

Also interresting they apparently dont lock cool new ceterpiece models in the armyboxes as a standard MO.
They dont even include a single character in this box, and that strike me as highly unusual.

Apparently a simplified (cheaper) version compared to the two lauch boxes that also had rules (right?)

 triplegrim wrote:
So, any sign of the PDFs?

Nope, and from a very quick search none of the supposed 'influencers' have dropped videos showing battle reports with legacy forces as was rumoured to have been seen today.

I suspect we might not see legacy pdfs for a while longer yet. Maybe the wont put them out until all regions have gotten their first releases.

So that's another army getting only a couple of characters (fairly uninspiring ones at that) as new models.
Tell me again how TOW is 'a labour of love' rather than one big nostalgia mining excercise?

Im disappointed by the lack of new plastic models, but they literally had an article last week about how they had to resculpt certain models, created new ones, and are making available stuff never released

Considering how many sculpts the new launching armies got, I'm not surprised at all. I figure a few new characters for each army is what we can expect to see. Coupled to old models; updated plastics here and there on the sprue (the new Brets don't have anywhere near the mould lines you'd expect from the really old moulds) and some wildcards. Perhaps a resin model here and there of old things that either never got released or had limited releases.

I figure this is what we'll see for each army (heck you can already see a good many models in the rule book for upcoming armies).

Then at some point things will shift gears and we'll see perhaps updated models/new models or even new armies added.

In theory GW needs the sales to be good to then justify whole army updates and such. It might be we don't even see that until Old World 2nd Edition. 1st edition being getting everything out the door with a starting army.

 MalusCalibur wrote:
So that's another army getting only a couple of characters (fairly uninspiring ones at that) as new models.
Tell me again how TOW is 'a labour of love' rather than one big nostalgia mining excercise?

the designers and rules writers put a lot of love into it and also releasing the very old models is seen as love to the hobby by them

just everything else is lacking and this is what we have seen with most other specialist games and why the designers were happy to leave GW after

I must can has the marauder giant, even if I never put it in play. If nothing else, it's the stuffing for a dreadsock par excellence!

Also, it's release day and I got the shipping notification that my stuff got to the store on Thursday, so I'm off to collect in an hour!!! ~happydance~

Honestly, for what I'm interested in doing the only disappointment so far is that the Brettonian Trebuchet cannot kill your opponents if you wang it in a sock and use it as a morning star.
But if that is the price we pay, then I pay it gladly.

Oh also the epub rules are back for all the rules documents for this game. Not a huge issue for me, but I know it was one of the things people were really unhappy about GW not doing for their mainline games recently. So that's another big boon for Old World

I wonder if they are going to do a "lords and heroes" book for all factions?

If I had to bet, we’ll see the pdfs Monday. They don’t usually do articles on the weekend.

Right now I expect every faction to get an Arcane Journal of their own with a few specialist characters and subfaction armies in them. Complimenting the army rosters in the collected books.

Old World 2.0 if/when it comes (considering how popular this already is I would be surprised if we don't see it); might then either continue the approach or go to the more standard Battletome for each faction. At which point we'd lose the all encompassing good/bad army books and gain individual ones for each force.

GW might consider marketing them as Arcane Journals or something or just Journals (so that there's a difference in name from the AoS Battletomes and 40K Codex). Just beefing them up to the full standard whole-army-in-a-book reference

 Fayric wrote:
Also interresting they apparently dont lock cool new ceterpiece models in the armyboxes as a standard MO.
They dont even include a single character in this box, and that strike me as highly unusual.

Apparently a simplified (cheaper) version compared to the two lauch boxes that also had rules (right?)

The Bret and TK boxes are so much more interesting that this one. Considering it also lacks reference sheets, book, etc. I certainly hope the price
does reflect a discount on the kits. If not, I'll just buy what I want piecemeal (more on the Night Goblin and Black Orc side), and go from there.

Damn those old Stone Trolls lools good still.

Was just admiring them in the 5th ed O&G book. Thry have a full color page with all 6.

I think I will buy them MTO.

I'd be surprised if it didn't. If you look at the launch boxes for AoS and 40k and then compare them to the Combat Patrol/Vanguard boxes (which are often similar unit mixes) the launch boxes sit at around £120-150 while the Combat Patrol/Vanguard boxes are £85.

Come to think of it, we've seen a lot of the returning Bretonnians and Tomb Kings in passing, but have we got explicit lists for everything that's returning to the main range and MtO?

The Greenskins article is very comprehensive, and with current MtO pricing (or indeed just the pricing in general) it makes sense to give customers a decent amount of time to prepare for a very short window of availability

 nathan2004 wrote:
Anyone have suggestions on proxies using GW models for a Chaos Dragon?

You're asking for a current GW product to use as a Chaos Dragon, correct?

I'd look at the Knights Draconis. Wouldn't be too far fetched to convert the Sigmarine rider to a Chaos Warrior type (or replace it altogther). The Dark Elf dragon (with dreadlord / sorceress) could work pretty good to (but are temporarily unavailable in the store right now).

I'm very excited to be able to buy a Marauder Giant for a semi-reasonable price!

I wonder what "classic ogres" are? The Jes Goodwin sculpts? The Michael Perry sculpts?

 Pariah Press wrote:
I'm very excited to be able to buy a Marauder Giant for a semi-reasonably price!

I wonder what "classic ogres" are? The Jes Goodwin sculpts? The Michael Perry sculpts?

I think it is these. The names they use for everything seem to match the Citadel Catalogue names.

Thanks.

Well, hopefully they'll have a MTO run of the Jes Goodwin "collector's ogres" someday.

Classic Ogres are back! YES!

I'm disappointed not to see classic Gobbo Wolf Riders on the list, but I'll survive.

I'll also be getting some Goblin Bolt Throwers, the Warboss on the Wyvern (as long as I don't miss the made to order window)... and probably a bunch more.

GW has definitely found a way to reactivate the pipeline into my wallet.

 Pariah Press wrote:
Thanks.

Well, hopefully they'll have a MTO run of the Jes Goodwin "collector's ogres" someday.

I've got a set of 'Golgfag's Maneaters' kicking around in my storage area (as well as 'Hrothyogg Ogre Captain' from above who was one of my very first miniatures). They're absurdly tiny for ogres.


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Huh. Did I just completely miss announcements of ePub versions of the rulebooks? That's... pretty big, especially given how badly they screwed up availability for the print versions.