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...they were released this weekend, dude - my local GW had the White Scars and Iron Hands ones in, and they are/were showing as available to order on the GW site yesterday.

Hang on - given the thread, were you meaning the boarding patrols or the big SM boxes for the other FF Chapters?

Sorry I should have been clearer, I was on about the new SM and 2 new CSM (one with Abby and the other with the Prince)

BrudeUK wrote:
Sorry I should have been clearer, I was on about the new SM and 2 new CSM (one with Abby and the other with the Prince)

No word on a release date for them - which is a little odd, now that I think about it, as you'd've kinda expected them to have launched alongside the new format.

All I can say is they're not out yet, and they don't seem to be on next week's pre-order list, so you're looking at them going on pre-order on the 28th at the very earliest.

 Dysartes wrote:

BrudeUK wrote:
Sorry I should have been clearer, I was on about the new SM and 2 new CSM (one with Abby and the other with the Prince)

No word on a release date for them - which is a little odd, now that I think about it, as you'd've kinda expected them to have launched alongside the new format.

All I can say is they're not out yet, and they don't seem to be on next week's pre-order list, so you're looking at them going on pre-order on the 28th at the very earliest.

They were sitting on the shelf at miniature market today. So they are out.

 Theophony wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

BrudeUK wrote:
Sorry I should have been clearer, I was on about the new SM and 2 new CSM (one with Abby and the other with the Prince)

No word on a release date for them - which is a little odd, now that I think about it, as you'd've kinda expected them to have launched alongside the new format.

All I can say is they're not out yet, and they don't seem to be on next week's pre-order list, so you're looking at them going on pre-order on the 28th at the very earliest.

They were sitting on the shelf at miniature market today. So they are out.

Given they're not on the GW store, Theophony, I'm going to assume you made the same mistake I did - we're not talking the Ultramarines/Salamanders/Iron Hands/White Scars boxes, we're talking about these three.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

BrudeUK wrote:
Sorry I should have been clearer, I was on about the new SM and 2 new CSM (one with Abby and the other with the Prince)

No word on a release date for them - which is a little odd, now that I think about it, as you'd've kinda expected them to have launched alongside the new format.

All I can say is they're not out yet, and they don't seem to be on next week's pre-order list, so you're looking at them going on pre-order on the 28th at the very earliest.

They were sitting on the shelf at miniature market today. So they are out.

Given they're not on the GW store, Theophony, I'm going to assume you made the same mistake I did - we're not talking the Ultramarines/Salamanders/Iron Hands/White Scars boxes, we're talking about these three.

Sorry, no I saw those, not the others. My fault.

BrudeUK wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts on when these new 3 box sets will be up for pre-order. I expected them to be announced for a ne, t Saturday pre-order but maybe they've been pushed back a week to make way for the new Guard? Thanks in advance

They knew when guard would be coming out like year ago...

They don't push things around at last moment. That ranges from flat out impossible to bloody expensive for GW. If something is delayed from original it's due to something serious in logistics. NOT to "oh let's release these now instead". They might have to delay them but then they would be released along with what originally was going to be released on that day. Not push back others.

 Dysartes wrote:

Given they're not on the GW store, Theophony, I'm going to assume you made the same mistake I did - we're not talking the Ultramarines/Salamanders/Iron Hands/White Scars boxes, we're talking about these three.

Given the AoO branding I think it's safe to assume they'll release alongside Book 2, which should be in February. That might also be at the same time as World Eaters, or with the next KT box that I assume will be revealed at LVO.

How much of a discount do you get when buying the IH boxed set?

 Strg Alt wrote:
How much of a discount do you get when buying the IH boxed set?

All the individual kits count up to 364USD, and the box set is 210, which comes out to roughly a 42% discount.

170 Euro is way too much for two characters, two dreads and a squad. Claims of a discount by GW seems to be a scam here.

Not defending GW here, but if you look at the individual items...

Iron Father - £26
Prim Tech-Marine - £24
Intercessors - £36
Redemptor Dread - £42.50
Redemptor Dread - £42.50
£171
Iron Hands Primaris Upgrades - £16
£187

Depending on if you value the upgrade frames or not, that box saves either £41 or £57 over RRP - that's 24% to 30.5%.

Whether that says more about GW's normal prices than anything else, I'll leave it up to the reader.

Yeah any boxed set that includes multiple characters will always give a seemingly worse discount over regular units. That's due to the way GW kits are priced based on expected sales. Characters are marked up as each customer is likely to buy either zero or one over the lifetime of the kit, compared to something like a squad or tank where many players might own multiples.

 Strg Alt wrote:
170 Euro is way too much for two characters, two dreads and a squad. Claims of a discount by GW seems to be a scam here.

Ok.

Go to your FLGS and buy those items separately.

Check the price.

Then check the box price.

I'm guessing you aren't buying ANY models from GW then as if you do you are acting totally irrationally.

 Dysartes wrote:
Not defending GW here, but if you look at the individual items...

Iron Father - £26
Prim Tech-Marine - £24
Intercessors - £36
Redemptor Dread - £42.50
Redemptor Dread - £42.50
£171
Iron Hands Primaris Upgrades - £16
£187

Depending on if you value the upgrade frames or not, that box saves either £41 or £57 over RRP - that's 24% to 30.5%.

Whether that says more about GW's normal prices than anything else, I'll leave it up to the reader.

These 2 minis are kind of hard to justify and does break a bit the idea of good value for the box set.
Iron Father - £26
Prim Tech-Marine - £24

Most characters are like that these days so nothing new.
When you pay £50 for two small sprues it's kind of a hit. When you put those expensive minis on a box set then all looks overpriced.
The box already has savings and if you manage to get them at a discount it makes them more bearable.

tneva82 wrote:
I'm guessing you aren't buying ANY models from GW then as if you do you are acting totally irrationally.

I wouldn't call noting the prices as being bad as "acting totally irrationally".

The Battleforce box prices are absurd. They are only less absurd in relation to the standard prices.

Updating with SM boxes

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/27/lvo-2023-vashtorr-the-arkifane-invades-the-dark-angels-home-turf/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=warhammer-40,000&utm_content=lvo-soul-forge-king



https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/27/lvo-2023-strike-force-agastus-makes-planetfall-with-new-desolation-marines-and-dreadnought/

"Boarding Patrol: Space Marines" is up for pre-order this weekend, and is £65 for £101.50 worth of stuff.

("Balefleet Battleforce" is also going up at £130 for £201 worth of Chaos)

beast_gts wrote:
"Boarding Patrol: Space Marines" is up for pre-order this weekend, and is £65 for £101.50 worth of stuff.

("Balefleet Battleforce" is also going up at £130 for £201 worth of Chaos)

What’s a equivalent in US dollars?

 Nevelon wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
"Boarding Patrol: Space Marines" is up for pre-order this weekend, and is £65 for £101.50 worth of stuff.

("Balefleet Battleforce" is also going up at £130 for £201 worth of Chaos)

What’s a equivalent in US dollars?

The Boarding Patrol should be around $95.

Balefleet Battleforce should be around $210.

Thanks

What on earth are those missilelancherchaingunoewpewpew guns?

 Flinty wrote:
What on earth are those missilelancherchaingunoewpewpew guns?

Desolation Marines

Yerg... those are horrible.

I mean I know GW regularly gets it in the neck for their firearms designs, but *shudder* is this a new low?

 Flinty wrote:
Yerg... those are horrible.

I mean I know GW regularly gets it in the neck for their firearms designs, but *shudder* is this a new low?

The general consensus from the internet full of memes is “hilariously and enthusiastically YES”

 Flinty wrote:
Yerg... those are horrible.

I mean I know GW regularly gets it in the neck for their firearms designs, but *shudder* is this a new low?

Low? It´s rather a bottomless pit.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Yerg... those are horrible.

I mean I know GW regularly gets it in the neck for their firearms designs, but *shudder* is this a new low?

Low? It´s rather a bottomless pit.

Bottomless does seem to be a recurring theme (looks at Rogal Dorn tank..)

Ba-dum tch!

 Flinty wrote:
Yerg... those are horrible.

I mean I know GW regularly gets it in the neck for their firearms designs, but *shudder* is this a new low?

Primaris already had a play style similar to what Orks should be: blob up in close, lay down withering wait of fire while drawing in, and then charge to fisticuffs range to mop up survivors.

This weapon design just proves that they’re taking another step towards emulating their green superiors.

I dunno, I kind of like them for how over-the-top ridiculous they are. Keep in mind that Space Marines is the faction with aircraft like the Stormraven, probably the least aerodynamic flying thing in the game. Realism is best checked at the door when doing anything related to 40k.

I'm absolutely gonna get that set. Dark Angels probably don't need any of what's in there, but I still want it. I'll probably split the other box too because I want the new Azrael and I totally need more Intercessors (not) and Deathwing (actually I probably do need more of these now lol).