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Got a gut feeling that Space Hulk could also be on the way...

so, looking at the image blown up a little on my phone, I'm certain that thiers a Ultramarine "inverted Omega" symbol on the shoulder pad. So, its ultras vs nids.

could it be a historical throwback? the ultramarines 1st company basically died to a man defending Macragge in the 1st tryanic war, after all. maybe some sort of "warhammer historical" or simmilar?

You guys do know there's video, right?

I’ve not located it on the page. A link would be awesome.

The videos just shows the mid head and zooms in on the eye, and terminator as in the image. Or is there an another?

No, thats it

It will be Space Hulk... but not as we know it. Either Killteams or Board Actions rules, self contained set I imagine.

 alextroy wrote:
I’ve not located it on the page. A link would be awesome.

The 'video' is the article picture on the main Warcom page (it may not show on mobile). Its more a 15 second animated gif than a proper video.

But its also on their youtube channel : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZZ_7f1Bkpo

So nids or if we are lucky something actually "new" like Lizardmen

The Terminator's proportions seem a little better, with a wider chest and the ability to turn the head to the side without moving the whole torso. It's not a picture of a miniature, but hoepfully an indication that the new models will have a working anatomy.

Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

The Rumors about Tyranids and Terminators for the 10th launch box are materialized almost officially in that video, and i believe the Tyranid Warrior is indicating of a revamp for that unit.

Actually when you look at the latest combat patrol for Tyranids, it looks almost like they were trying to clear up stock for gaunts warriors and tyrants in preparation for a revamp.

My opinion is that the following units get redone:
- warriors
- gaunts
- stealers
- biovore/pyrovore
- Lictor/deahleaper
- Ravener/Red Terror

And maybe :
- Tyrant
- Carnifex

Those 2 kits are old enough, but they are still aesthetically pleasing enough.

I'm going to laugh when it turns out it's just more teasers for Space Marine 2 and has nothing to do with 10th or (for some dumb reason) a new version of Space Hulk.

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

The Rumors about Tyranids and Terminators for the 10th launch box are materialized almost officially in that video, and i believe the Tyranid Warrior is indicating of a revamp for that unit.

Actually when you look at the latest combat patrol for Tyranids, it looks almost like they were trying to clear up stock for gaunts warriors and tyrants in preparation for a revamp.

This has been repeated endlessly but there's no such thing as clearing up stock. GW manufactures new sprues for each new boxed set it makes. There isn't some huge pile of old sprues lying around waiting to get packed into boxes and they don't break down old stock to repack into combat patrols or army sets or anything else.

Greenfield wrote:

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

The Rumors about Tyranids and Terminators for the 10th launch box are materialized almost officially in that video, and i believe the Tyranid Warrior is indicating of a revamp for that unit.

Actually when you look at the latest combat patrol for Tyranids, it looks almost like they were trying to clear up stock for gaunts warriors and tyrants in preparation for a revamp.

This has been repeated endlessly but there's no such thing as clearing up stock. GW manufactures new sprues for each new boxed set it makes. There isn't some huge pile of old sprues lying around waiting to get packed into boxes and they don't break down old stock to repack into combat patrols or army sets or anything else.

I'm still amazed people think GW has a huge sprue overstock considering how many kits in almost all regions fall in and out of stock over the last 2-3 years. Even IF GW had overstock the Pandemic would have blown that away entirely.

 Overread wrote:


I'm still amazed people think GW has a huge sprue overstock considering how many kits in almost all regions fall in and out of stock over the last 2-3 years. Even IF GW had overstock the Pandemic would have blown that away entirely.

That, and the fact it would probably cost GW more to pay staff to repack old existing sprues rather than just casting up new ones for pennies.

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

They were literally in the previous edition of Kill Team.

Custodes work in Kill team so there is space for Terminators*, but it's not Space Hulk.

If it was Space Hulk the intro would have been about blips, simple enough.


*the 2+ save would be the most controversial thing, so I think you'd definitely be looking at a small team when they come out in WD before we kick off the new Season.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

They were literally in the previous edition of Kill Team.

which is nothing like the current edition, where they are not allowed, and the closest units currently in it (space marine heavy intercessor kill teams) struggle due too-low model counts. Custodes are often only effective in Kill Team when played with Sisters of Silence giving them numbers to operate around.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

They were literally in the previous edition of Kill Team.

They even had Broodlords and Patriarchs!

xerxeskingofking wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

They were literally in the previous edition of Kill Team.

which is nothing like the current edition, where they are not allowed

Not allowed currently and has nothing to do with whether or not they fit the "setting" of Kill Team.

Completely classic style helmet and proportions line up with the recent chaos terminator kit - looks like firstborn. A Tyranid having a nose hole and cheeks is new though - are nids the biggest faction not having had a decent range update semi-recently (other than maybe Drukhari)?

How many Kill-Team previews feature the Warhammer 40,000 logo so prominently?

 Insularum wrote:
A Tyranid having a nose hole and cheeks is new though...

And that's what concerns me. I want Tyranids to get some new critters and new models to replace ancient FineCost models. I don't want a back-to-the-drawing-board redesign of the whole race.

 Insularum wrote:
...are nids the biggest faction not having had a decent range update semi-recently (other than maybe Drukhari)?

Prior to the Parasite, the last Tyranid release was in, IIRC, 2014.

 Insularum wrote:
Completely classic style helmet and proportions line up with the recent chaos terminator kit - looks like firstborn. A Tyranid having a nose hole and cheeks is new though - are nids the biggest faction not having had a decent range update semi-recently (other than maybe Drukhari)?

"Semi-recently" would be funny if it weren't so sad. Nids last range update was 2014 (Blood of Baal). Only new model since then was the Parasite for the 9th edition release.

xerxeskingofking wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Siegfriedfr wrote:
Terminators wouldnt work in a Kill Team setting, they are too powerful, so that's ruled out.

They were literally in the previous edition of Kill Team.

which is nothing like the current edition, where they are not allowed, and the closest units currently in it (space marine heavy intercessor kill teams) struggle due too-low model counts. Custodes are often only effective in Kill Team when played with Sisters of Silence giving them numbers to operate around.

I don't think this is a tease for KT at all, but considering we have Custodes (which seem absolutely absurd from a thematic viewpoint) I thinking ruling out terminators completely from the game just because they would be a low model count band and not very effective is giving GW too much credit.

It's most likely just a tease for tenth or maaaybe some new boxed game akin to Space Hulk.

The denial is pretty strong. Rumors are for 10th edition box set with nids and terminators (I’m using Valraks source simply because of accuracy thus far).

Mechanicum daemon Prince…..OK, Vashtor, but if you just saw the model/image, how else would you describe it?
Azrael…. Yep
Next book Farsight with new model….. yep
Another book and the Lion… all teases point this way
Dante? Waiting on that one.
So are we just going to dismiss the 10th edition rumor as something else, like Space Hulk?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Insularum wrote:
A Tyranid having a nose hole and cheeks is new though...

And that's what concerns me. I want Tyranids to get some new critters and new models to replace ancient FineCost models. I don't want a back-to-the-drawing-board redesign of the whole race.

Well, I had that experience a long time ago. I bought some of the new models in 3rd edition but then decided they were either garbage in quality and design (metal) or not what I was looking for. I didn't liked the new design of the Warriors that much and that of the Rippers even less. Termagants were to big for their stats and Hormagaunts had (and have) too large heads. It stopped me from collecting Tyranids at all.

I bought the Genestealers and the plastic Brood Lord (not the metal one - it didn't look like a Stealer at all) as an old GSC player, and some later Tyranid models were nice. But just when you thought, they had learned from past mistakes - boom. Gargoyles. They don't even share a sprue with the foot-slogging beasts, yet they have the same huge head and arms with an even tinier body.

Well, I'm happy with my 1st/2nd edition models + Armorcast. Why should I collect an army where I don't like the basic troops. So a new design wouldn't hurt me.

GW has shown they can modernize a range without invalidating it. They did a good job with the Eldar, and I hope they do the same with the nids.

Not reinventing the wheel, but cleaning up some old stuff, cutting modern and more efficient sprues, and giving people new toys to field along side their existing ones.

SamusDrake wrote:
Got a gut feeling that Space Hulk could also be on the way...

Yeah, after everyone buys four sets of Gallow Dark, they change it to the new and improved Space Hulk hallways with a new terrain type.

 Nevelon wrote:
GW has shown they can modernize a range without invalidating it. They did a good job with the Eldar, and I hope they do the same with the nids.

Not reinventing the wheel, but cleaning up some old stuff, cutting modern and more efficient sprues, and giving people new toys to field along side their existing ones.

They've also shown they can strip away the options and turn the rest into a quagmire of genericised weaponry and Byzantine limitations and combinations.

An arbitrarily limited kit is better than a strictly ETB kit, or absolutely nothing.

If they’re Indomtius armors and on par with the CSM terminators, I’ll be fine with it. You can swap arms around and the shoulder pads are separate so I expect that at a minimum. Sadly there’s no chance to get a dual kit to make close combat/shooty variants in this age.