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Seems like the preview is at a really odd time for everyone.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seems like the preview is at a really odd time for everyone.

GW is testing your resolve and dedication.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seems like the preview is at a really odd time for everyone.

Not for americans.

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seems like the preview is at a really odd time for everyone.

Not for americans.

10pm is still a pretty weird time I'd imagine, most people won't want to start a 2 hrs stream that late as a guess

Edit: ofc that varies depending on state

Dudeface wrote:


10pm is still a pretty weird time I'd imagine, most people won't want to start a 2 hrs stream that late as a guess

These previews are normally about an hour, right? The five game systems shown seem to fit their usual blueprint: start with the Lion for 40k, 10mins chatter between the other four game reveals, then finish on 40k 10E announcement.

Still, I'm pretty happy to just be able to wake up at 7am and see all the separate articles posted without sitting through the full stream.

"Timed for after an event-only seminar so the attendees don't ruin the reveals with phone pictures" as has been sagely explained to me for questioning the incredibly dumb timing. Why those people can't be trusted not to spoil things when they're already getting a first look, or why they can't just collect phones during the seminar, or why the stream and the seminar can't be at the same time or both be at a more sensible time, who can say. We're not supposed to ask

tneva82 wrote:
Not for americans.

10pm is a weird time.

 xttz wrote:

Dudeface wrote:


10pm is still a pretty weird time I'd imagine, most people won't want to start a 2 hrs stream that late as a guess

These previews are normally about an hour, right? The five game systems shown seem to fit their usual blueprint: start with the Lion for 40k, 10mins chatter between the other four game reveals, then finish on 40k 10E announcement.

Still, I'm pretty happy to just be able to wake up at 7am and see all the separate articles posted without sitting through the full stream.

I think the on-site one is 8-10pm

Dudeface wrote:

 xttz wrote:

Dudeface wrote:


10pm is still a pretty weird time I'd imagine, most people won't want to start a 2 hrs stream that late as a guess

These previews are normally about an hour, right? The five game systems shown seem to fit their usual blueprint: start with the Lion for 40k, 10mins chatter between the other four game reveals, then finish on 40k 10E announcement.

Still, I'm pretty happy to just be able to wake up at 7am and see all the separate articles posted without sitting through the full stream.

I think the on-site one is 8-10pm

The stream usually does one reveal every 15 minutes, and streams till the list is done, usually more like 1:30, but it depends on how much they're showing, i guess it can get to 2h quite easily.

 warboss wrote:

Ancient Otter wrote:
Gotta admit to myself, that if it is definitely 10th edition this year, it's impressive they managed to stick to 3 years per edition (including AOS) with the manufacturing and shipping disruptions the last few years.

Is that rapid turnover/life cycle something that should be applauded though?

On the one hand, that's very fast. On the other hand, 9th has definitely worn out its welcome at this point.

I’m agnostic on edition churn. Not only do I not play these days, but?

On one hand, it does seem super fast. And I can well understand why folk feel frustrated/annoyed/upset that rules purchases just don’t last as long as they used to.

On the other? It seems to be lead by GW’s increased output. Seemingly gone are the days of a given army going an edition or two with no new Codex or models. Yes someone is still going to be Last Out The Gate, but that wait time is reduced all the same.

Looking across 9th as a whole? For releases and updates it’s been a pretty decent three years. Necrons, Orks, Eldar and Imperial Guard all got quite significant numbers of releases in terms of kit counts. Yes each still has needs and wants, but a solid update is still solid, even if it’s incomplete.

So I’m hopeful that 10th will do the same for other forces. Nids and Dark Eldar for instance still need Finecast to go away - and Eldar wouldn’t say no to a medium sized release updating the remaining Aspects (including the Dire Avengers, because that kit is showing it’s age!).

Not saying it’s a good or bad thing. Just presenting my thoughts for others to pick apart.

It's definitely not a genestealer:



So unless those expecting space hulk are foreseeing Ultras terminators against Gaunts, I think that's certainly not what this is for.

Looks very gaunt to me, so the fellas saying this was "at least a carnifex size" because of height whatever reasons

Yeah I’d say Gaunt.

Head plating, and I think we can see shoulder carapace as well.

 xttz wrote:

Dudeface wrote:


10pm is still a pretty weird time I'd imagine, most people won't want to start a 2 hrs stream that late as a guess

These previews are normally about an hour, right? The five game systems shown seem to fit their usual blueprint: start with the Lion for 40k, 10mins chatter between the other four game reveals, then finish on 40k 10E announcement.

Start with 15-20 minutes of chat blather, realize they're running late, and increasingly rush through releases so they (and the camera crew and support staff) can finally leave their booth and the studio at the dead of morning.

Still, I'm pretty happy to just be able to wake up at 7am and see all the separate articles posted without sitting through the full stream.

True, which begs the question why they don't just do the stream at the usual daily release time beforehand, followed by the articles and that way they don't have to worry about being 'scooped' by potato-cams at all.

The streamers aren't at Adepticon. Most of the audience isn't at Adepticon. The audience at Adepticon has presumably sat through a traditional GW seminar of non-answers to watch the same stream as everyone else at 10pm. Presumably that's engaging for someone, somewhere, but no idea why.

Ah yes spoil the reveals for the audience in advance then...

Duh. Entitlement of some people...

Time is designed around the seminar. You know? The guys paying money to go to the adepticon part of which is getting to see previews.

Lol. Seems to be too tough concept to figure out time is designed for the people actually at the adepticon. Funny that with event being ADEPTICON. Weird. Adepticon schedule made to work for adepticon.

Spoiling? This isn't a movie.

Dudeface wrote:


So unless those expecting space hulk are foreseeing Ultras terminators against Gaunts, I think that's certainly not what this is for.

Space Hulk is wishful thinking for me and I don't think that's what it is, but *if* it came back they're not just doing it as a one-and-done. They don't really do that anymore. It'd be weird to not launch it with Blood Angels vs Genestealers, but I think we'd get multiple expansion boxes with more Terminators from other legions, and more Tyranid units as enemies, along with a bunch of missions.

tneva82 wrote:
Ah yes spoil the reveals for the audience in advance then...

Duh. Entitlement of some people...

Time is designed around the seminar. You know? The guys paying money to go to the adepticon part of which is getting to see previews.

Lol. Seems to be too tough concept to figure out time is designed for the people actually at the adepticon. Funny that with event being ADEPTICON. Weird. Adepticon schedule made to work for adepticon.

No we understand we just think it's stupid. A fraction of a fraction of a percent of the audience are at Adepticon, none of the rest of us give a gak. GW encouraging people to stay up until unsociable hours is distinctly unhealthy.

Billicus wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Ah yes spoil the reveals for the audience in advance then...

Duh. Entitlement of some people...

Time is designed around the seminar. You know? The guys paying money to go to the adepticon part of which is getting to see previews.

Lol. Seems to be too tough concept to figure out time is designed for the people actually at the adepticon. Funny that with event being ADEPTICON. Weird. Adepticon schedule made to work for adepticon.

No we understand we just think it's stupid. A fraction of a fraction of a percent of the audience are at Adepticon, none of the rest of us give a gak. GW encouraging people to stay up until unsociable hours is distinctly unhealthy.

It think the various positions on this topic have now been sufficiently made clear. It is what it is, we're not gonna change it this year, if you really want to have at least a slim chance of doing anything about it write a politely-worded feedback mail to GW.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Looks very gaunt to me, so the fellas saying this was "at least a carnifex size" because of height whatever reasons

They are not the same creature. The Tyranid in the Tyranid video had spurs on the side of it's head it clearly was not any gaunt we currently know of (or indeed any Tyranid we know of). The image in the terminator's eye has no spurs on its head and looks like a gaunt.

Where did this new image come from?

Someone at GW uploaded it early and then took it down.

But the Internet is forever.

Billicus wrote:

No we understand we just think it's stupid. A fraction of a fraction of a percent of the audience are at Adepticon, none of the rest of us give a gak. GW encouraging people to stay up until unsociable hours is distinctly unhealthy.

You could...

... and hear me out here, give it a chance, crazy as this might seem...

... wait.

 oni wrote:
Where did this new image come from?

The video(really more of a GIF) was uploaded to YouTube. Usually they hide these things until ready to reveal, but if someone is quick enough they can usually get the video or a link to it before it gets hidden.

In this case, the following image was the video:

 Vermis wrote:

Billicus wrote:

No we understand we just think it's stupid. A fraction of a fraction of a percent of the audience are at Adepticon, none of the rest of us give a gak. GW encouraging people to stay up until unsociable hours is distinctly unhealthy.

You could...

... and hear me out here, give it a chance, crazy as this might seem...

... wait.

Exactly, I'm not sure "the guests at Adepticon will get the privilege of a preview under NDA and wll have recording devices confiscated as we will not be making the reveals publicly until 6pm your time zone the next day. The team will present from Nottingham 24 hour straight just to ensure none of you feel the slightest bit over entitled and forced to watch it at 3am" is healthy either.

Wait. What? You expect people to wait for their next hit of hobby fix?

Inconceivable!

Dudeface wrote:
Exactly, I'm not sure "the guests at Adepticon will get the privilege of a preview under NDA and wll have recording devices confiscated as we will not be making the reveals publicly until 6pm your time zone the next day. The team will present from Nottingham 24 hour straight just to ensure none of you feel the slightest bit over entitled and forced to watch it at 3am" is healthy either.

Yeah, that "take their phones from them!" bit was a real 'uhhh wat' moment. Not to mention... everything else.

alextroy wrote:Wait. What? You expect people to wait for their next hit of hobby fix?

Inconceivable!

It's a step. Maybe... one of twelve.

Find your higher power, people! No I don't mean Lion El'Jonson.

Mmm. 6000 attendees last year. I wouldn't want to be responsible for getting 6000 phones back to the right people afterwards...

If anybody there is under an NDA it's the staff and the people that do professional photographs for the organizer etc., i don't think an NDA for a general convention audience is even enforceable. If they did seperate entry for the Seminar and made you sign a form then maybe, idk.

But it does not really matter, time zones are just a fact of life and in this case it is literally impossible to find a time slot that pleases everybody around the world.