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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

The one who made that meme probably has no problem with SM being stealthy.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

The one who made that meme probably has no problem with SM being stealthy.

Also, in real life, unshod hooves are not that loud, especially not when moving on soft-ish ground.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

The one who made that meme probably has no problem with SM being stealthy.

Also, in real life, unshod hooves are not that loud, especially not when moving on soft-ish ground.

Yeah, that too. There were predators with hooves in our prehistory. Also Leapers are meant to be ambush predators.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

The one who made that meme probably has no problem with SM being stealthy.

Also, in real life, unshod hooves are not that loud, especially not when moving on soft-ish ground.

Yeah, that too. There were predators with hooves in our prehistory. Also Leapers are meant to be ambush predators.

On these I think there has been an update on the typical Nid design with a "finger" behind those hooves...


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 Geifer wrote:


While GW's photographers are indeed phenomenal at picking the worst possible angle, for me it's the lack of restraint. The head has teeth. And tentacles. And mandibles. And extra eyes. And an additional chitin plate layer. And the kitchen sink. It's just too much in one place compared to the rest of the body that has an evenly detailed, clean design. It's a point of failure that is far too common on GW sculpts for my liking. 95% of the model shows good taste and judgment, and then there's this one thing the sculptor had to overdo completely.

It's kind of frustrating, but at least oftentimes done in such a way that a simple part swap fixes the issue.

Yeah I agree with most of that. The fact the head is the focal point of the mini does not help either.

Tsagualsa wrote:
It is some sort of inside joke, the von Ryan's Leaper appeared on a CCG card in the early 2000s, with very bad art that nobody could quite make out what it was supposed to represent, and since then it was mentioned in several nid codexes as a creature of ambiguous progeny that the Imperials can't really place among the tyranid strains

Wasn't the codex first? Date in it (2000) predates copyright on the card...

 vipoid wrote:
Also, is it me or are they a little chunky? Looks like the Hive Mind needs to exercise them a little more

"Chunky"? Where?

They have literal barbie waists barely any thicker than their thighs and human sized limbs (so, really anorexic seeing half of width is supposed to be armored shell). Is that supposed to be some late AF joke or something?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This is what I was afraid of. New things instead of updated old things.

Ah, yes, last century, such new

 Geifer wrote:
The head has teeth. And tentacles. And mandibles.

All of which were present on the 2nd Ed Lictor, who also had the bonus of a bottom jaw of teeth, too.

Yep the main difference being things like the upper mandibles where kind of pressed in against the tentacles in a bunch instead of spread out like in the new model.

Well, I've long been disappointed with solo Lictors, so if these get the lictor rules and can be run in groups, I guess that'll be okay. So long as the actual Lictors gets a beef-up so that's its actually terrifying to characters on the battlefield.

On an older question, how many termagants/hormagaunts do people tend to run in a game? I've got 60 apiece of each and was wondering if it was worth investing in more (of the old kits) or if I've got enough for a sane game.

 catbarf wrote:
Y'know, I always assumed a Von Ryan's Leaper was some kind of indigenous organism that the chart was speculating to be related to Tyranids- the Catachan Devil is also on the same chart (derived from Raveners IIRC) with the same question mark appellation.

Ah, okay. This makes sense.

So apparently I've gone through near 30ish years of my life thinking the 2nd edition Lictor's mandibles were just spiky ears...

 Geifer wrote:
I don't think Termagants get new bases. The picture from the latest Warhammer Community looks like 40mm bases for Terminators and 25mm bases for Termagants remain the default.

I haven´t seen chessboard markings on SM since the 90s.

So now, when Characters can join squads again, imagine Ryans being led by a Lictor!

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So now, when Characters can join squads again, imagine Ryans being led by a Lictor!

We can not allow those horrible man eating monsters from outer space to be nicknamed "Ryans". No one would ever be terrified by them any more.

That being said I do love that they are called "Von Ryan's Leapers". Great quote from the past.

I think the group shot is showing the new biovore in the background.


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G. M. wrote:
I think the group shot is showing the new biovore in the background.


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Looks like gaunt jenga to me, arms match the other gaunts and the back "mouth" looks like the white flesh of yhe gaunt above it.

 G. M. wrote:
I think the group shot is showing the new biovore in the background.


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It's juste a Gaunt, the white thing top left is its tail. The white blurb to the right however, i dunno.


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Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
I’m liking these the more I look at them.

Same, they grew on me. They are essentially elite Hormagaunts, and i like the fact that GW is expanding existing genuses instead of creating new ones.

Plus i'm sure the the selection of heads will make up for the overbusy mouths (like this head with a single middle mandible, which looks awesome).

Nothing can be worse than the Dark Reapers baby heads.

Ugh


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Siegfriedfr wrote:

 G. M. wrote:
I think the group shot is showing the new biovore in the background.


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It's juste a Gaunt, the white thing top left is its tail. The white blurb to the right however, i dunno.


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Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
I’m liking these the more I look at them.

Same, they grew on me. They are essentially elite Hormagaunts, and i like the fact that GW is expanding existing genuses instead of creating new ones.

Plus i'm sure the the selection of heads will make up for the overbusy mouths (like this head with a single middle mandible, which looks awesome).

Nothing can be worse than the Dark Reapers baby heads.

Hormagaunts & lictors having babies.

I've wanted more small & medium Nids for a long time so this has me pretty happy.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I've wanted more small & medium Nids for a long time so this has me pretty happy.

Yeah, the last big update nids got added tons of big monsters, like the Maleceptor and Toxicrene. Good to see them filling out some of the middle-range units.

I'm pretty excited. My main concern is that the Lictor DOESN'T get updated as a result... but we'll see.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

You know that the clip clop is due to the horseshoe not the hooves themselves... and that hooves can be very stealthy and extremely well adapted for negotiating rough terrain do you? Please tell me you knew about the existence of horseshoe else this is just embarrassing.

Whilst GW can make some utterly baffling choices at times, I really cannot imagine that the biovore, pyrovore and lictor will make it out of this update without getting new models. Now perhaps they won't all be in the new boxed set so might come after it; but otherwise it just makes so much sense.

Remove the last of the finecast from the model range; update the last of the oldest models and bring the whole army into a modern form. They are already updating the gaunts and screamerkiller (which likely also means carenifex) and they've released mini-lictors.


Then again they released new rangers and rangers on jetbikes for Eldar but didn't update the Ranger Exarch/named hero and Eldar are still running around with the old Warpsiders and such.

It seems that lots of “Tyranid” stuff dropping in June. June 24th is the best guess for 10th release. Aliens Dark Descent releases Tuesday June 20th, & the same company that does that has Space Marine 2 coming out 2023 (Best Buy slipped and had July but took it off days later). I think it’s safe to say June is the month!

 Overread wrote:
Then again they released new rangers and rangers on jetbikes for Eldar but didn't update the Ranger Exarch/named hero and Eldar are still running around with the old Warpsiders and such.

Eldars are an ancient people so they have ancient models; that's what I tell myself as cry to myself to sleep.

The Tyranid deck was originally released last October.

 Overread wrote:
Whilst GW can make some utterly baffling choices at times, I really cannot imagine that the biovore, pyrovore and lictor will make it out of this update without getting new models. Now perhaps they won't all be in the new boxed set so might come after it; but otherwise it just makes so much sense.

Remove the last of the finecast from the model range; update the last of the oldest models and bring the whole army into a modern form. They are already updating the gaunts and screamerkiller (which likely also means carenifex) and they've released mini-lictors.

Considering what we saw in the trailer and how several monopose units from the Indomitus box saw follow-up kits with variant build options, my current expectation is that:
* Biovores, screamer-killers, and leapers are all pushfit models in the launch box.
* Later there will be an updated multi-part Carnifex kit in a similar style (though perhaps without SK bits).
* A multi-part kit to make 3 leapers, with the options to build as 1-3 Lictors/Deathleaper instead.
* Biovores & spore mines remain available via the pushfit sprues, as they don't need many options.

Unless they kill two Squigs with one stone and combine the Biovore and Pyrovore kits.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Unless they kill two Squigs with one stone and combine the Biovore and Pyrovore kits.

Which is something I've expected them to do for utterly ages. 3 in a box with alternate builds just like the zoanthrope/venoms and the hiveguard/tyrant guard sets

I'd guess they're procrastinating on putting energy toward remaking/combining biovores and pyrovores because they've sold basically none of them over the editions.

 G. M. wrote:
I think the group shot is showing the new biovore in the background.


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i love the new models, but add this one to the list of units that are going to have a harder time than they need to surviving because of the way LoS is figured now. completely behind hard cover, except an inch of claws sticking up gets them shot every time. maybe they have something like the 'can't be targeted from more than 12"', or they stop punishing good looking models on the table top in 10th. who knows.