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A LONG time ago I made a winged tyrant using the old, metal 3rd edition tyrant body, Red Terror head, and some fantasy dragon wings. it looks great, but a tad small. I wonder if it would be more the size of this new flying prime.

 xttz wrote:

Speculation time:
The 10e launch box has a new brainbug that works as reimagined of Doom of Malantai (with callbacks to the original 90's Zoanthrope model) and may effectively replace the Neurothrope. There's also a beefier Warrior Prime that's almost certainly a pushfit model.

With GW's current design approach of allowing game-legal units from a single box of models, the current Warrior and Zoanthrope kits may have issues.

What if the current Prime and Neutrothrope models now become sergeant equivalents and a fixed part of the unit datasheet, rather than a separate character entry? Brainbug takes the former role of the Neurothrope as a separate psychic leader character. Then at some point in future we get a new Primarisified Warrior Prime multipart kit separate from Warriors.

The new brainbug from the trailer is much, much bigger than a mid-sized Nid. The two "attendants" should be around the size of current Zoans, I guess they will be something akin to the pylons for TSK.

Boxes of three for Warriors and Zoans don't really have a problem with unit sizes. Buy one box get a minimum legal unit, buy two boxes get an HQ and a unit of 5 that is better than a unit of six anyways.

 xttz wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Looking optimistically, we can see he is clearly much beefier than the current prime, so if we get a new foot-prime it may be even thicker by comparison (I'm not so optimistic as to hope for dual-build).

I do feel he more or less confirms incoming Shrikes by his simple existence though.

Speculation time:
The 10e launch box has a new brainbug that works as reimagined of Doom of Malantai (with callbacks to the original 90's Zoanthrope model) and may effectively replace the Neurothrope. There's also a beefier Warrior Prime that's almost certainly a pushfit model.

With GW's current design approach of allowing game-legal units from a single box of models, the current Warrior and Zoanthrope kits may have issues.

What if the current Prime and Neutrothrope models now become sergeant equivalents and a fixed part of the unit datasheet, rather than a separate character entry? Brainbug takes the former role of the Neurothrope as a separate psychic leader character. Then at some point in future we get a new Primarisified Warrior Prime multipart kit separate from Warriors.

I honestly expect the current Prime kit to do one of 3 things; become a normal warrior, become a unit sergeant or stay as the ground Prime. I genuinely think we will see the second option and he becomes a Warrior Alpha, akin to that one roided up Von Ryan's Leaper in the box, the one with the crest. Then we will see another stand alone Tyranid Prime kit drop to represent the ground bound warrior prime. The real question would be, what would a Warrior Prime provide to the unit. He has no unique weapon like how a Nob can take a PK, and warriors are synapse so morale buffs are pointless for them. Perhaps he would be a trigger for some sort of ability?

Tyranid Prime already provides its Alpha Warrior buff. I guess it will have a version of that in 10th.

I think we can all agree that 10th needs to bring back the Tyranid Event Table.

Jones is acting strangely.

 Overread wrote:
OH Those are good wings!

Am I the only one who doesn't like these wings? Maybe I am.

If I end up getting this model (which I probably will), I'll probably use the Parasite of Mortrex or Hive Tyrant wings, whichever looks better. If neither work, I'll probably end up looking around for 3D printer stl's.

 Breotan wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't like these wings? Maybe I am.

You are not.

Yeah the wings don't sit right with me either. They just don't look very Tyranidy to me.

So Prime, Gaunts, Leapers, rippers are already revealed.

Still missing are

Carnifex, Zoe thing with drones.

Is there something else more in the Video? I dont remember much more than that.

 NAVARRO wrote:
So Prime, Gaunts, Leapers, rippers are already revealed.

Still missing are

Carnifex, Zoe thing with drones.

Is there something else more in the Video? I dont remember much more than that.

Biovores, other new gaunts and the tentacle feeder units that ate the space marines

 Matrindur wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
So Prime, Gaunts, Leapers, rippers are already revealed.

Still missing are

Carnifex, Zoe thing with drones.

Is there something else more in the Video? I dont remember much more than that.

Biovores, other new gaunts and the tentacle feeder units that ate the space marines

Your right forgot about the funny feeder dudes I hope those and the fex actually bring something cool to this release.

 xttz wrote:

Speculation time:
The 10e launch box has a new brainbug that works as reimagined of Doom of Malantai (with callbacks to the original 90's Zoanthrope model) and may effectively replace the Neurothrope. There's also a beefier Warrior Prime that's almost certainly a pushfit model.

With GW's current design approach of allowing game-legal units from a single box of models, the current Warrior and Zoanthrope kits may have issues.

What if the current Prime and Neutrothrope models now become sergeant equivalents and a fixed part of the unit datasheet, rather than a separate character entry? Brainbug takes the former role of the Neurothrope as a separate psychic leader character. Then at some point in future we get a new Primarisified Warrior Prime multipart kit separate from Warriors.

My bet would be that the big brain from the video will be a psychic equivalent of the HT where Neuro will play a role of its smaller and weaker version = Tyranid Prime which basicaly means a psychic lieutenant.

Perfect 10. Love it.

It’s a beast!

While Barbgaunts are cool I was hoping that those bugs from the video are actually Biovores. Same as with Lictors who turned to be Ryans instead.

Really love the Neurotyrant and the Psycophage models. The screamer killer is huge!

Psychophage - taking inspiration from the Venomcrawler, or inspiring it?

Random appreciation for different sizes of Gaunts, too. Nice little touch there.

Gaunts on 32 mm now. Well...

 Lord_Valorion wrote:
Gaunts on 32 mm now. Well...

Looks like they're on the newer 28s going by the full shot of everything without the terrain.

Sternguard have really solid poses. Just not sure if I like the whole of the thing.

Goddamn those nids!

Really solid sculpts for the nids all round. The neurogaunts seemed a bit ehh... at first, but I think that's just the paint job on them. The brain-tyrant looks awesome. Weakest sculpt there is the winged prime, but only because of the wings themselves don't look right.
If I were still into 40k I'd be jumping straight on that gribbly bandwagon. I expecting this new box set to come with an eyewateringly appropriate price tag.

The new nids are a miss for me, I don't think they fit in great with my current models. The only real win for me is the ripper swarms.

Oddly I like everything on the marine side, and I generally hate primaris. Maybe its because most of it looks a lot closer to the older marines.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Lord_Valorion wrote:
Gaunts on 32 mm now. Well...

Looks like they're on the newer 28s going by the full shot of everything without the terrain.

On one preview picture they have the same Base as the new Flamermarines.

Good Morning Hive mind, Lovely to wake up to the best Named starter ever. Levis bugs are on.

Unpopular opinion but there goes the Good the Bad and the Ugly and the STAR:

The Ugly -
Neurotyrant- Amateur hour kit bash kind of feel to it, the design here is simply add random stuff on top of the mini making it just a mess of carapace bits. Confusing concept ideas and not a good model at all.

Von Ryan’s Leapers- The focus point is the head and the head is again too messy and proportionally weird, it just want to do too much and in the end fails. Talons cool though. This mini will be for me hated till the end of times since I have been waiting for a Lictor for decades and this is not IT!

Psychophage- Oh my where to start? Ash fumes look like froth on top, abdomen too big, head is what exactly? and those limbs are disjointed and so is the connection of the head to the abdomen. A pass here.

The Bad-
Winged Tyranid Prime- well that does not look like a prime at all, the wings are awful and someone should relegate this boring mini to spawning pool

Termagants- Such boring take and still same mistakes of hands with pistols. Boring

Rippers- Look 4 rippers per base? Missed chance to a FW take on swarm. Can someone tell GW that putting them all with thoungue out does not make them scary at all.

The good-
Barbgaunts- Thats it a weapon fused and also wicked 3 limbed creature...this is alien, fresh and novel take on Gaunt weapons I absolutely love this to bits.

Screamer-Killer- Yiiiikes this is good! Yautja head makes me happy inside XD (remove tact rock please) But a more erect carnifex and I love carnifex minis LOVELY!

The Star-
Neurogaunts- This is what I expected and wanted the Nid refresh to be this is superb, smaller gaunts that look Niddy/ alien and scary and something more than copy pasta of old concepts. The Idea is there the mini is there and the Neurogaunt prime is sweeeeeet. I almost want to buy the box just for this kit alone. Yes please bring more of that.

Boxset- A no go for me too many stinkers I will wait for individual kits of Neurogaunts and the Barbgaunts and Screamer killer.

Until GW releases the Lictor I will be hibernating.

I love the new nids. I’m hoping marine popularity means the nid half is fairly easy to pick up.

Neurotyrant seems very "busy" in terms of detail. Will wait to see what it does in terms of rules to make it different from Zoanthrope. Also notice that like the Psychophage, it seems GW is in the fad of having upper jaw fangs but there is no lower jaw to close against it and actually produce a bite?

Psychophage is a weird concept. Seems far too specialized if its focus is on eating psykers. What would it do if there are none available on the other side? Or can they eat anything and spew their gak but get more powerful effect from consuming psykers?

The barbgaunt seems to be this edition's iteration of the old spike rifle design from 2nd edition, though it seems this time it is more like a frag missile launcher? The old spike rifles were harpoon like and compared to the fleshborer, had weaker S but better AP.

Not sure about the neurogaunts til the rules are known. Are they meant to be cheap Guards for the Neurotyrant? How do they differ from using normal gaunts as ablative shields? The mention of relays for the synaptic netowork perhaps a callback to 3rd edition when some Gaunts could be mutated to be hive nodes?

The Tyranid Prime had me worried, but this is a home run aas far as design is concerned.

However, i'm worried we wont see that many refreshed kits in autumn, and they might trickle some during the edition in Kill Team, Space Hulk, and what else.

I wonder if the psychophage was just a reskinned venomcrawler? They basically have identical body structures