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Not painting the jaw like an armor piece can make a huge difference in looks.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Not painting the jaw like an armor piece can make a huge difference in looks.

Yeah. I was disliking that the heads looked so different from the established aesthetics, but the bottom left one in that photo has assuaged my fears.

So far mostly "meh" on new nids. I'll definitely be sticking to the old kit for Screamer Killers. The "Leapers" look decent. Curious to see what the new units do.

 Insectum7 wrote:
Curious to see what the new units do.

Yeah, shame that they posted stats for SC only. I really would like to see stats for Psychophage.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
Curious to see what the new units do.

Yeah, shame that they posted stats for SC only. I really would like to see stats for Psychophage.

Apparently, the cards we were shown(including the ones we've previously seen) we only saw because they're in use on the demos.

Re-putting this here as this is the first love my 'Nids have really got in close to a decade (even if our current Codex is the best Codex they've had since 2nd Ed and has the two most fluffy rules ever created for the 'Nids - Synaptic Links and Bioadaptive Traits):

1. The Tyranid Prime has a boring pose and his wings are coming outta the wrong joint.

2. The Neurotyrant is fething amazing. Surprised at its size - the CGI trailer gave off nearly Silent King levels of size - but either way it's still an awesome looking beastie. Nice to have a new Leader Beast.

3. The Screamer Killer's face has strong Predator vibes. It's weird. As an update to one of my fav models (I have two OG Carnifexes, and one of them is made of lead!) I am greatly pleased by this revision. No so pleased with hits stats though. T9? Why is he the same toughness as a Rhino. It should be tougher than a Rhino. Makes me worry what's going to happen to the smaller Carnifex kit (T8? T7? ).

4. Leapers have grown on me. I still would rather a plastic Lictor, but these minis are fine.

5. Termagants are Termagants. I need more of them like I need a hole in the head.

6. Neurogaunts have an extremely unusual paint job that makes various bits of them look like bionic implants rather than grown creatures. Part of me wants to paint all those bits up metallic and give 'em the odd bit of technical gubbinz and call them a heretical Magos Biologis experiment gone wrong. Honestly not a fan. They feel like the least necessary unit added to the game (a meatshield Tyranid gribbly unit... like Termagants and Hormagaunts already are?). I liked the recolour from a post or two above this one. That looks good.

7. Barbgaunts. Hmm... Well, as someone who was really hoping for a brand new Biovore model that doesn't suck (4th time's a charm!) these were a disappointment. These models suffer the most from the "push fit" design, as they look like 2D miniatures that fit into slotta-bases. There's so much real estate on the base that's empty. We know what they can do with plastics technology, so these being so squished up really doesn't make sense. They should be spread out like Hive/Tyrant Guard.

8. The Psychophage is a complete flip on the Neurotyrant, where I thought it was going to be small but it's the biggest thing in the box! I love it. I think it looks amazing.

Now none of this precludes things like the Lictor or Biovore getting new models (and hopefully the Pyrovore as well!), but in a similar vein to Eldar players (although not to the same degree, given they have literally the oldest models GW still sells), it is annoying to see a big expansion of your chosen faction and find that they're adding tons of new stuff whilst leaving ancient things in the dust. Could be worse though. Could be Dark Eldar, who didn't even get a new model in the last edition or two (Lilith's singular release was a re-release).

I want that Screamer Killer.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


3. The Screamer Killer's face has strong Predator vibes. It's weird. As an update to one of my fav models (I have two OG Carnifexes, and one of them is made of lead!) I am greatly pleased by this revision. No so pleased with hits stats though. T9? Why is he the same toughness as a Rhino. It should be tougher than a Rhino. Makes me worry what's going to happen to the smaller Carnifex kit (T8? T7? ).

Yeah, T9 is a dissapointment. Also now, I remember you warning me to be careful of what I want vs what they could release. After the Video I was enthusiastic for SC but now, contrary to most, I really do not like its head (maybe with different paintjob it will grow on me?).

8. The Psychophage is a complete flip on the Neurotyrant, where I thought it was going to be small but it's the biggest thing in the box! I love it. I think it looks amazing.

My favourite model from the box.

I think the neurogaunts would look great with a really pale colour scheme, as if they are semitransparent or similar like the Juvies from later Gears of War games.

About new SC head https://www.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/comments/133lbd4/i_cant_be_the_only_one_who_sees_it/

No new Tyranids on the Kill team means that the wait for a Lictor is still going... maybe another decade then.

 NAVARRO wrote:
No new Tyranids on the Kill team means that the wait for a Lictor is still going... maybe another decade then.

There will be more Tyranid releases for the Codex, just like there was for the Necrons.

They got 7 kits in the box, and 7 kits for the Codex.

Psychophage - it is mentioned that they eat enemies, especially psykers, to produce psychoclastic torrent. I could imagine that they have some kind of weak ranged attack that will increase in strenght, penetration and damage after X models eaten, where psykers even double its output.

Siegfriedfr wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
No new Tyranids on the Kill team means that the wait for a Lictor is still going... maybe another decade then.

There will be more Tyranid releases for the Codex, just like there was for the Necrons.

They got 7 kits in the box, and 7 kits for the Codex.

I’m counting 8 Tyranid “boxes” in the new starter.

Prime, neuroprime, screamer, leapers, termiguanrs, psycho, barbtermies, & neurotermies…

Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:

Siegfriedfr wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
No new Tyranids on the Kill team means that the wait for a Lictor is still going... maybe another decade then.

There will be more Tyranid releases for the Codex, just like there was for the Necrons.

They got 7 kits in the box, and 7 kits for the Codex.

I’m counting 8 Tyranid “boxes” in the new starter.

Prime, neuroprime, screamer, leapers, termiguanrs, psycho, barbtermies, & neurotermies…

Depends how they are setup. A few of the new models in the Necron set are all on one easy-built sprue for the starter sets that GW sells along with the big box at the start of the edition.
Eg it might be all the "hero" units are on one sprue - so the Screamerkiller and new winged warrior prime could both be on the same sprue.


It also depends on which kits are going to stay easy build and which will get regular assembly options for their retail release.

Past the starter, Hormagaunts and Genestealer updates would make sense. Lictor needs plastic. Biovore/pyrovore does as well, and would fit well into a EtB kit slot like the Doomstalker or Heavy destroyer. Lord of War and terrain piece are the two roles with no plastic nid kits. That's 6 potential kits for a further release.

To put things in perspective a bit with some stats from 2020/21:

Necrons got roughly 3-4 character models, 3 squads, 2 larger models, 2 LOWs, and a terrain piece with or shortly after their codex
Excluding small single character / support units like cryptothralls, Necrons got 10 new kits in 2020/21. Of those, 3 were updated versions of existing kits, and 7 were brand new units.
They also got 9 character / support units; 2 were updated and 7 were brand new.

In the Leviathan box only the termagant/ripper sprue is a straight up replacement. The others are all either brand new units or new variants of existing things.

Given GW's obvious preference for new over old, a wave of Tyranid kits on par with the Necron codex release doesn't seem that likely to directly replace all of the 5-6 existing models many are expecting it to:
Lictor(s)
Biovores
Pyrovores
Hormagaunts
Genestealers
Carnifex

Lord of War.

On that subject, do we think 'Nids would finally get one that isn't a spindly heavy piece of resin that would break if you so much as glanced at it?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Lord of War.

On that subject, do we think 'Nids would finally get one that isn't a spindly heavy piece of resin that would break if you so much as glanced at it?

The Dominatrix fits that bill. Looks like a Tyranid version of a cow. Big thing, with a big gun, and a big brain bug attached to it. The mod3l in Epic was big and impressive.

GW has been willing to directly swap over FW models from resin to plastic again, and the monolith and gorkanauts were both promoted to lords of war from heavy support. The logical thing would be a kit that makes barbed or scythed heirodule, and bump its stats to somewhere in the range of the gorkanaut or questoris knight.

 stonehorse wrote:

The Dominatrix fits that bill. Looks like a Tyranid version of a cow. Big thing, with a big gun, and a big brain bug attached to it. The mod3l in Epic was big and impressive.

I could see a reimagined Dominatrix ending up relabelled with the the rumoured 'norn emissary' title, given that name originated alongside accurate leaks for the boxed set.

Could plausibly double up as a Hierodule kit too.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
... and the monolith and gorkanauts were both promoted to lords of war from heavy support.

Which was a mistake...

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The logical thing would be a kit that makes barbed or scythed heirodule, and bump its stats to somewhere in the range of the gorkanaut or questoris knight.

Feth no! You know how great it was to have that those things made into a Heavy Support slot? Moreover, they're around the same size as the Tyrannofex, meaning they shouldn't ever go back to being Lords of War.

More things should be brought into the Heavy Support slot, like the Macharius.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
... and the monolith and gorkanauts were both promoted to lords of war from heavy support.

Which was a mistake...

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The logical thing would be a kit that makes barbed or scythed heirodule, and bump its stats to somewhere in the range of the gorkanaut or questoris knight.

Feth no! You know how great it was to have that those things made into a Heavy Support slot? Moreover, they're around the same size as the Tyrannofex, meaning they shouldn't ever go back to being Lords of War.

More things should be brought into the Heavy Support slot, like the Macharius.

Neither Lords of War nor Heavy Support are concepts that exist in 10th edition anyway, from everything revealed so far.

 Asmodai wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
... and the monolith and gorkanauts were both promoted to lords of war from heavy support.

Which was a mistake...

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The logical thing would be a kit that makes barbed or scythed heirodule, and bump its stats to somewhere in the range of the gorkanaut or questoris knight.

Feth no! You know how great it was to have that those things made into a Heavy Support slot? Moreover, they're around the same size as the Tyrannofex, meaning they shouldn't ever go back to being Lords of War.

More things should be brought into the Heavy Support slot, like the Macharius.

Neither Lords of War nor Heavy Support are concepts that exist in 10th edition anyway, from everything revealed so far.

Yup; up to three of anything regardless. Looking at the revealed datasheets there’s no symbol indicating any sort of order of battle. Just the Faction symbol and the keywords, none of which even have the “battleline” tag that enables you to have up to six of a thing. We’ve been assuming that the army list tells you which units get that.

Unrelated; kinda want to make a Dominatrix by fusing a Neurotyrant with a Tyrannofex… except it’s not big or bulky enough.

Strap them to a lovely small Puppy.

Jack Russell pup should be ideal.

Before the current models, Hierodules were Titan sized threats so the remade ones could be made bigger again, and they should be as otherwise what makes them different enough from Tyrannofexes? Unless we treat all 3 simply as Nids versions of various super heavies classes.

And the Hierophant was the size of a Warlord (or Reaver), but that got scaled down to be basically what the Hierodule was in Epic.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Unrelated; kinda want to make a Dominatrix by fusing a Neurotyrant with a Tyrannofex… except it’s not big or bulky enough.

I was thinking of using the abdomen of the Psychophage with the Neurotyrant and additional legs to make an epic-scale Dominatrix...

Assuming today's faction focus is us, and that SM got 2 datasheets revealed, My bet is on Sporocyst (just to troll us)

Faction stuff coming now.
















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Quite impressed with Genestealers.

Additional wound is nice, re-roll wounds when holding/contesting an objective is nice.

HTH seems a wee bit weedy, but I’m lacking enough Edition Context to say for certain.

5++ is very welcome.


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Rupture Cannon is also looking rather buff. Certainly should be capable of kneecapping a Knight with just a modicum of luck.

2 Wounds Stealers? Awesome!