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Point changes coming today. One list i had made over 200 up

FYI post-app update the datasheets are locked now

Tyrannofex is 245? WTF?

Yeah bugger this update. Imma use my 'Dex as printed...

I'm sure you are fine eldar using rules as were. And knights.

You can negotiate which rules and points you are using in a friendly game.

Not everyone here is a tournament player after all and H.B.M.C is definitely not one.

If he can get his friends to agree to let him use codex points, then it is great for him.

Imagine having to negotiate to use your printed Codex. Your printed brand new Codex.

tneva82 wrote:
I'm sure you are fine eldar using rules as were. And knights.

And one day you're going to reply to the things people actually say, rather than the stuff you invent in your head.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Imagine having to negotiate to use your printed Codex. Your printed brand new Codex.

tneva82 wrote:
I'm sure you are fine eldar using rules as were. And knights.

And one day you're going to reply to the things people actually say, rather than the stuff you invent in your head.

Whilst I'm agreeing it's dumb and a waste of a tree, the points in the codex does literally have a section for "scan this to get the most up to date points". They'd have been better off not printing them at all really if that's their intent, but a book vs book showdown is fine if you're not bothered about being on the current meta or whatever.

Question for those who MIGHT have seen the updated Tyranid codex already.. hah..

I have HEARD that the unit sizes have changed and Termagaunts and Hormagaunts are maxed at 20 models per unit?

And I am also wondering WHY the Winged Prime and the Neurotyrant are considered BAD, per se..

 porkuslime wrote:
Question for those who MIGHT have seen the updated Tyranid codex already.. hah..

I have HEARD that the unit sizes have changed and Termagaunts and Hormagaunts are maxed at 20 models per unit?

And I am also wondering WHY the Winged Prime and the Neurotyrant are considered BAD, per se..

Winged prime if joined to gargoyles is T3 for the purposes of precision and hits like a wet noodle, put it with warriors and the fly is wasted, whilst still hitting like a wet noodle.

Neurotyrant seems ok, problem is again you lower their T by putting them in units and using neurogaunts to do it would be suicide by sniper.

They're also max 20 in the index.

Dudeface wrote:

 porkuslime wrote:
Question for those who MIGHT have seen the updated Tyranid codex already.. hah..

I have HEARD that the unit sizes have changed and Termagaunts and Hormagaunts are maxed at 20 models per unit?

And I am also wondering WHY the Winged Prime and the Neurotyrant are considered BAD, per se..

Winged prime if joined to gargoyles is T3 for the purposes of precision and hits like a wet noodle, put it with warriors and the fly is wasted, whilst still hitting like a wet noodle.

Neurotyrant seems ok, problem is again you lower their T by putting them in units and using neurogaunts to do it would be suicide by sniper.

They're also max 20 in the index.

appreciate that.. will have to do a bit of rebasing or slight repainting to get down from 30 alas..

The fly isn't completly wasted(have had some use of it) but the sustained wasn't most useful with index det. Now with point drop and 5 detachment not providing sustained and 1 allowing advance&charge to warriors it might see some use.

Several new detachments also have enhancements that work well with an attached Prime. There's a +2" unit movement bonus in Swarm, or a double regeneration in Assimilation that can bring back two warriors each turn.

Definitely think we'll see more of that now that the points cut effectively gives free upgrades compared to before.

I've found tanks tend to go down with the hyper adaptation for lethal hits on everything combined with enough hormagaunts. They fail saves eventually.

I remember when the indices first started getting previews and the people who screamed bloody murder at me (and some others) for even suggesting that the cards had tons of wasted space and that they didn't need to be double sided.

And here we are, Codex in my hand, and what a shock: Everything is on a single block!

The physical cards are still double sided, likely because they want to have one unit per card so you never have to flip a card ovet to see a different unit, but we were right. Nothing needs to be double-sided.

In the grand scheme of things is it really that big a deal if the unit stats are on two sides of a cars instead of one? (Honest question, I haven't used them.)

Ease of use if everything is right there, specifically what a unit is armed with.

I go back to the original example: The Land Raider.

The 'rules' side just had Godhammer Lascannon and Twin Heavy Bolter. No indication given of how many of eithet it had.

We know, but a new playet or even a rare individual unfamiliar with Marines might not know. Hell, with the return of Twin-Linked I incorrectly assumed that the 2 shot Godhamner was representative of both guns.

Only on the flipside did we learn how many of each weapon it actually had. I thought it would be nice if the card showed what something was armed with right when you look at it. Transport capacity too, while we're at it.

Others agreed. Others acted as if I had kicked their dog.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I remember when the indices first started getting previews and the people who screamed bloody murder at me (and some others) for even suggesting that the cards had tons of wasted space and that they didn't need to be double sided.

And here we are, Codex in my hand, and what a shock: Everything is on a single block!

The physical cards are still double sided, likely because they want to have one unit per card so you never have to flip a card ovet to see a different unit, but we were right. Nothing needs to be double-sided.

This is genuinely incredible.

Incredible in the sense that I lack credibility? I have the book. Honest!

One thing that's interesting is that New Zealand Tyranids aren't as dangerous as Australian Tyranids. None of their winged bioforms can actually fly.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Incredible in the sense that I lack credibility? I have the book. Honest!

One thing that's interesting is that New Zealand Tyranids aren't as dangerous as Australian Tyranids. None of their winged bioforms can actually fly.

That just sounds like Australia being Australia to me.

And if every actual unit rule is on one side like they are in the codex, they could still use the other side for all the keywords so just in case you would need to look one up during the game you could just flip the card instead of searching through the book. This way you would actually have everything you need to play on the card

 Mr_Rose wrote:

That just sounds like Australia being Australia to me.

Australia you say...

Anyone had trouble getting the dex to work with App?

Ive redeemed code from book but nothing from the dex is appearing in App. Quite possible I'm being dense and missed somthing but not sure if its a bug.

 Kinetochore wrote:
Anyone had trouble getting the dex to work with App?

Ive redeemed code from book but nothing from the dex is appearing in App. Quite possible I'm being dense and missed somthing but not sure if its a bug.

I had the same issue. I logged out of the app, closed it, re-opened and logged in again. The codex then appeared for me. Same with the website.

Curious, tried that but didnt work for me. At least I know its not just me though!

At first glance the covers look similar, as they both use the same Tyrant in the foreground, but the background of the 10th edition codex has been changed, and includes the faction symbol.



Just in case people need help making sure they are buying the right version.

edit:
Back covers are also different, with the 10th having new models like Deathleaper and one of the Norns in the battle scene.

So uh….which one is which?

Also, anyone able to spill the beans on the new Termagant weapons?

 Nevelon wrote:
At first glance the covers look similar, as they both use the same Tyrant in the foreground, but the background of the 10th edition codex has been changed, and includes the faction symbol.

I took me a minute to find the symbol, and that's after you said it was there. Waldo is easier to spot! Seriously, who thought that up? They should have commissioned a new round of artwork for codex covers instead. This is just poor.

I suspect we'll see each new codex do this. Faction symbol on the background of their 9th edition and then a new work of art for their limited edition.

Clearly just having a different cover material and less text wasn't shifting limited editions enough

 Geifer wrote:
They should have commissioned a new round of artwork for codex covers instead.

Apparently too expensive for 3 year edition period