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 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Wayland Games is currently showing 10+ rhino and marine infantry boxes in stock.

I’m….distrustful of Wayland when it comes to their stock levels.

They fixed their stock levels issue years ago by going to live-stock on their website.

It does seem to work for released items but they still don't get it right for Pre-Orders. Last two times I've Pre-Ordered with them it's been at least a month after the release before they actually had the product. Now is this because they over sold or GW under supplied I have no idea? They were however good at letting me know I could cancel if I wanted to, no fuss.

Yep everyone is waiting on the second wave which I'm hoping/guessing will happen this weekend or just before. Which would make sense if GW are doing a mostly "Made to Order" shipping order this coming week.


In the end this means that Old World is getting the same kind of volume of launch attention as 40K or AoS have had in the past - which is really encouraging numbers wise!

Tallonian4th wrote:
It does seem to work for released items but they still don't get it right for Pre-Orders. Last two times I've Pre-Ordered with them it's been at least a month after the release before they actually had the product. Now is this because they over sold or GW under supplied I have no idea? They were however good at letting me know I could cancel if I wanted to, no fuss.

Has it happened with anything other than GW stuff? That might be indicative of the underlying issue.

Tallonian4th wrote:

It does seem to work for released items but they still don't get it right for Pre-Orders. Last two times I've Pre-Ordered with them it's been at least a month after the release before they actually had the product. Now is this because they over sold or GW under supplied I have no idea? They were however good at letting me know I could cancel if I wanted to, no fuss.

I've tried to make three release-day preorders with Wayland recently and the best outcome was the LI baneblades arriving on the Wednesday after release, despite it being marked as ready to go on the Sunday. My starter box from EG arrived on the Saturday.

The other two times their website just had repeated timeouts and 503 server errors until there was no stock available to order.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 tauist wrote:
It's like the Age Of Darkness release all over again. GW releases a game and leaves it hanging. I made the right choice sticking to AT for now

Make no mistake, Adeptus Titanicus is also languishing

LI has invigorated interest in AT here but the only effect that's had is there are now 3 people angry they can't buy the AT starter anywhere.

It's interesting...the AT starter is available on the US site. And there are still LI starter boxes, infantry boxes, and Rhino boxes available on eBay (US) at this moment...some discounted even. I know the conversation here was more about the individual kits than the starter. But it seems like either the US was stocked a little better than normal, or there isn't quite as much demand here for LI. And if I had to place money on one side, I'd probably go with the latter. Feel like maybe the nostalgia play is hitting a little better over there than here.

 Overread wrote:
Yep everyone is waiting on the second wave which I'm hoping/guessing will happen this weekend or just before.

Nah. Lots of people are waiting for the reprint of the limited first print run and worrying about being far behind by the time they get it.

Right now?

I need the next book, because I want access to new Formations.

Not because I don’t want to duplicate existing formations in my list, but I want to get an idea of how flexible my existing collection is, and how future releases might affect said options, and the look, feel and shape of my army.

I for one am happy to drop £100 a month on kits, and I now know I’m perfectly capable of getting that painted too. But I still want flexibility, options and choice.

In case anyone wants them, some of the bases and the plastic Marauders came back in stock on the US site.

There is definitely an element of not buying and painting up masses of stuff until the Great Slaughter's lists and units arrive.

I've got to about 1k points with a Warhound. Gives me enough for some "intro games' to learn the game, and leaving plenty of space for the big ticket stuff that is coming for the next wave (Land Raiders, Bikes, Drop Pods etc). and up towards 2k which I think is the level this game is going to settle at.

Apparently (I haven't seen it) today's WH+ Loremasters video on Solar Aux brought us some new box art...

Well hello there~ 😍

OK, I can use a solar aux shadowsword in full size right?

Oh, thats pretty. I hope that theres a full size kit for these guys coming. Thats clearly an image of a render there - the detailing looks like its for a full size tank rather than an epic scale one to me, though I could be mistaken.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Oh, thats pretty. I hope that theres a full size kit for these guys coming. Thats clearly an image of a render there - the detailing looks like its for a full size tank rather than an epic scale one to me, though I could be mistaken.

Same with LI Baneblade box art

Now that looks like a proper Superheavy Tank If that comes out on 28mil, don't know if I can resist it, even though I have no sensible way of fielding it in games

Is there any chance it'd be a dual kit with the stormhammer?

 Crablezworth wrote:
Is there any chance it'd be a dual kit with the stormhammer?

Spoiler:

Pretty unlikely, they would have shown it together if that was the case.

More likely that there will be another kit that has the Shadowsword as one build and then also the Stormsword and maybe the Stormblade as they all use the same hull configuration

 xttz wrote:
Apparently (I haven't seen it) today's WH+ Loremasters video on Solar Aux brought us some new box art...

Spoiler:

Love the look of the mini, but that got me all excited that they were actually going to start using traditional artwork for the game. And that was actually a silly thing for me to expect, considering all of the game's presentation has been entirely devoid of it so far.

Gee Bill! How Come Your Mom Lets You Have Two Shadowswords?

Wonder how big volcano cannon they will have rulewise. AP only -3? Lower engine killer value?

And the obvious...When do they come out ;-)

Wonder if they'll do a combined kit? It'd work well with the Stormblade and Stormsword

New article about a new book for HH and at the end they also say:

This epic campaign book is designed very much as a companion piece to the first supplement to Legions Imperialis, The Great Slaughter**

What I really don't like is the asterisk for our book which says:

The Great Slaughter will also be out a little later this year.

Not even a "soon" let alone a next month kinda sounds like a big delay to me. "A little later this year" is the same wording they used back when LI was delayed which took 4 months from that point to release. And I hope we aren't looking at the second book they need to reprint for some reason.

 Matrindur wrote:
New article about a new book for HH and at the end they also say:

This epic campaign book is designed very much as a companion piece to the first supplement to Legions Imperialis, The Great Slaughter**

What I really don't like is the asterisk for our book which says:

The Great Slaughter will also be out a little later this year.

Not even a "soon" let alone a next month kinda sounds like a big delay to me. "A little later this year" is the same wording they used back when LI was delayed which took 4 months from that point to release. And I hope we aren't looking at the second book they need to reprint for some reason.

I'm wondering if a certain red sea conflict is delaying shipping and arrival of a lot China sourced products?

"Later than you think" (TM)

Given how WarCom has been going, "little later this year", we can assume preorders go up 31st Dec 2024 if we're lucky?

Coming Soon...the announcement you've been all waiting for...

 Matrindur wrote:

Not even a "soon" let alone a next month kinda sounds like a big delay to me. "A little later this year" is the same wording they used back when LI was delayed which took 4 months from that point to release. And I hope we aren't looking at the second book they need to reprint for some reason.

I bet this is more to do with making the next release wave more manageable. Even without the dozen or so supplement kits we're still waiting on a lot of things covered by the core rules:
individual tank boxes
2 support sets
reboxed AT/AI units
reboxed terrain
knight/titan battleforces

Prior to the original announcement a lot of us were originally expecting the supplement to be in Spring as there's so much stuff to come out.

One can hope those come meanwhile. And not with now delayed supplement

It looks like they saved Money on the wrong places and even on the Management; I don't know any other Company who failed to recover from the Pandemic like Games Workshop.

Not only LI, everything of the last two Years gives the feeling only incompetent people remained in the Management...

How will they manage this Company when Cavill makes their IPs eternal mainstream cash cows?

Faster Edition circles and logistical Problems. 40k as a Mainstream SciFi setting will kill them... they will never work up that backlock...

assuming their troubles are caused by the pandemic and were not there before or caused by something else that was there before and just well hidden from people because a global crisis was an easy excuse