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Thought this might be of interest to anyone who watched her videos for GW. Like Duncan Rhodes and Chris Peach before her she has decided to set up on her own.

New channel on YT and her first video:



Thought it was fun and well produced, if I were better at painting stripes I would have had a go at Rainbow Warriors

Not too familiar with her videos since they were mostly locked at Warhammer+ which I do not subscribe.
Both Peach and Duncan target demographic in therms of painters is mainly for starters or tabletop quality levels.

But its a bit sad that GW cannot hold these good painters on their presenting teams and they keep on leaving.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not too familiar with her videos since they were mostly locked at Warhammer+ which I do not subscribe.
Both Peach and Duncan target demographic in therms of painters is mainly for starters or tabletop quality levels.

But its a bit sad that GW cannot hold these good painters on their presenting teams and they keep on leaving.

My guess is there’s only a limited budget for their painting tutorials, the painters get to a point where they know they’ll make more money doing their own YouTube channel and decide to give it a go.

I wish her all the best, she's a great painter and personality.

Interested to see who she is replaced by at GeeDubs.

 General Kroll wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not too familiar with her videos since they were mostly locked at Warhammer+ which I do not subscribe.
Both Peach and Duncan target demographic in therms of painters is mainly for starters or tabletop quality levels.

But its a bit sad that GW cannot hold these good painters on their presenting teams and they keep on leaving.

My guess is there’s only a limited budget for their painting tutorials, the painters get to a point where they know they’ll make more money doing their own YouTube channel and decide to give it a go.

It might also be a factor that working at GW HQ in that role effectively requires living close to Nottingham. GW often hire younger people from all over the UK to work there, but after a while they might just want to go back home.

 General Kroll wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not too familiar with her videos since they were mostly locked at Warhammer+ which I do not subscribe.
Both Peach and Duncan target demographic in therms of painters is mainly for starters or tabletop quality levels.

But its a bit sad that GW cannot hold these good painters on their presenting teams and they keep on leaving.

My guess is there’s only a limited budget for their painting tutorials, the painters get to a point where they know they’ll make more money doing their own YouTube channel and decide to give it a go.

GW also got wise to making internet 'stars' out of their painting people and seem to really downplay their personalities etc now. She's probably one of the last few that the 40k community would be easily able to name and who could easily spin off into their own Youtube channel. Good luck to her.

 Londinium wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not too familiar with her videos since they were mostly locked at Warhammer+ which I do not subscribe.
Both Peach and Duncan target demographic in therms of painters is mainly for starters or tabletop quality levels.

But its a bit sad that GW cannot hold these good painters on their presenting teams and they keep on leaving.

My guess is there’s only a limited budget for their painting tutorials, the painters get to a point where they know they’ll make more money doing their own YouTube channel and decide to give it a go.

GW also got wise to making internet 'stars' out of their painting people and seem to really downplay their personalities etc now. She's probably one of the last few that the 40k community would be easily able to name and who could easily spin off into their own Youtube channel. Good luck to her.

Between Patreon, Youtube earnings, product placements and comission work, being independent from GW ought to earn you (much) more money if you are as much as recognizable - GW pay might be steadier and better for an unknown artist, but it probably prevents you taking up all sorts of opportunities that come your way, and limits your long-term perspectives if you don't make the jump after a couple of years that you use to build your personal brand.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Londinium wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not too familiar with her videos since they were mostly locked at Warhammer+ which I do not subscribe.
Both Peach and Duncan target demographic in therms of painters is mainly for starters or tabletop quality levels.

But its a bit sad that GW cannot hold these good painters on their presenting teams and they keep on leaving.

My guess is there’s only a limited budget for their painting tutorials, the painters get to a point where they know they’ll make more money doing their own YouTube channel and decide to give it a go.

GW also got wise to making internet 'stars' out of their painting people and seem to really downplay their personalities etc now. She's probably one of the last few that the 40k community would be easily able to name and who could easily spin off into their own Youtube channel. Good luck to her.

Between Patreon, Youtube earnings, product placements and comission work, being independent from GW ought to earn you (much) more money if you are as much as recognizable - GW pay might be steadier and better for an unknown artist, but it probably prevents you taking up all sorts of opportunities that come your way, and limits your long-term perspectives if you don't make the jump after a couple of years that you use to build your personal brand.

No idea how much they are payed at GW, but GW has kind of helped the artists building their internet footprint.
There is probably loads of other reasons too that we dont know about.
Regarding how much better off the YouTubers are etc again Im not totally sure about that ( dont have any concrete numbers). The other day I was hearing a top Spanish painter pro with a big (probably the biggest) internet presence and he was talking with other pro painters and saying that being recognisable online does not sometimes translate in being commissioned and getting more money etc.
Either way it's a fine balance like in any other line of work.

GW though should be clever about the talents they "created" and have a special package ready for those individuals since they are effectively now empty handed.

Wishing her the best, I haven't seen a ton of her painting tutorials, but the ones I did were well done and I appreciated her sense of humor.

I imagine it's tough for GW to keep their better and more charismatic painting people for a number of reasons that people have touched on here. One thing I think that is also pretty significant that I didn't see mentioned is variety. A lot of the very skilled painters I have met before at conventions at what not tend to be really passionate about painting and paint a wide variety of things. It's probably really nice for someone who makes painting content to be able to choose something they are excited about, rather than just being assigned a random GW miniature to make a tutorial on.

Good luck to her. I really love her colourful style and its something I'd like to emulate when I get to painting some of my Tzeentch backlog.

I've already subscribed and I hope we'll see her interviewed on The Painting Phase.

Her first video on the Rainbow Warriors is actually really good.

But yeah, GW lost another one because they tried to downplay personalities that people liked. Their loss, as always.

"The Painting Phase" with Peachy has a whole heap of "former insider" insights as to what was good (and bad) about working for GW. There's certainly a lot of discussion on the topic of good/bad management, remuneration and such in relation to being a "face". Certainly worth listening to/watching for both the insider gossip as well as more fun recollections, in addition to the normal banter and hobby discussion.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:


Interested to see who she is replaced by at GeeDubs.

From what I can gather, by a pair of hands.

GW painting tutorials have really suffered over the past few ones.
The lion was abysmal and I can't believe they thought it was worth showing off.
I hope she does well, I suplbscribed for masterclass, but that seems gone now

Love SavageOrcGuy, she's an absolute blast and manages to keep the old school whimsy alive with her quirky paintjobs.

Glad to see she's striking out on her own and I can't wait to see her lay paint on some non-GW mins.

Yeah her painting videos were the best content on wh+ at the beginning, she's a good painter and a charming personality so I think she's gonna do really well. That video is mostly her geeking out over obscure / fan lore which is great

Since GW has gone to only table ready painting on YT, I hope she adds more of the old Table + that GW used to do. I pulled a lot of inspiration from those older videos.

 legionaires wrote:
Since GW has gone to only table ready painting on YT, I hope she adds more of the old Table + that GW used to do. I pulled a lot of inspiration from those older videos.

The tabletop isn't even good and asks for some really....interesting asks.
Like repainting black when already painting black. Spraying it gold, then.....painting it gold. Just paint it grey. It makes basecating easier.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Her first video on the Rainbow Warriors is actually really good.

But yeah, GW lost another one because they tried to downplay personalities that people liked. Their loss, as always.

Is this an ongoing problem?

3 people have left so far. Duncan, peachy and Louise.
There have been more but those had the most personalities and good skill.
Their tutorials have suffered alot. For example, the Dantes lacks anything to help a new player learn to paint, but go look at the old nagash one, it was great

How do we know they downplayed personalities?

Emma/ElectricEve was the first to go solo, before Duncan, but she choose streaming(on twitch) rather than youtube.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Their tutorials have suffered alot. For example, the Dantes lacks anything to help a new player learn to paint, but go look at the old nagash one, it was great

I feel that GW has decided that the free YouTube tutorials be strictly for new painters (they even limit them to 10 paints in the tutorial). The more in-depth tutorials are what Louise was doing on Warhammer+. Nick Bayton is still at GW doing battle reports on Warhammer+, so we'll see if they have him pick up the Masterclass tutorials or if they get someone new or drop them altogether.

She was on the Honest Wargamer stream for a bit on Monday and it sounds like there is no love lost between her and GW. She's now working out of the TSN studio with Rob's assistance- her desk is literally next to his, apparently she's been there a while and had to crawl under camera so as not to seen before she left GW.

Best of luck to her enjoyed her first video.

 Ghaz wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Their tutorials have suffered alot. For example, the Dantes lacks anything to help a new player learn to paint, but go look at the old nagash one, it was great

I feel that GW has decided that the free YouTube tutorials be strictly for new painters (they even limit them to 10 paints in the tutorial). The more in-depth tutorials are what Louise was doing on Warhammer+. Nick Bayton is still at GW doing battle reports on Warhammer+, so we'll see if they have him pick up the Masterclass tutorials or if they get someone new or drop them altogether.

Yeah I noticed that. So few paints.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 legionaires wrote:
Since GW has gone to only table ready painting on YT, I hope she adds more of the old Table + that GW used to do. I pulled a lot of inspiration from those older videos.

The tabletop isn't even good and asks for some really....interesting asks.
Like repainting black when already painting black. Spraying it gold, then.....painting it gold. Just paint it grey. It makes basecating easier.

You mean black over black primer? Well if you don't paint better not make any mistake because you can't paint over mistake as black brush paint isn't same as spray black so would stick over like sore thump.

 DaveC wrote:
sounds like there is no love lost between her and GW.

Any chance you can elaborate for those of us that don't have time to watch the video?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Their tutorials have suffered alot. For example, the Dantes lacks anything to help a new player learn to paint, but go look at the old nagash one, it was great

I feel that GW has decided that the free YouTube tutorials be strictly for new painters (they even limit them to 10 paints in the tutorial). The more in-depth tutorials are what Louise was doing on Warhammer+. Nick Bayton is still at GW doing battle reports on Warhammer+, so we'll see if they have him pick up the Masterclass tutorials or if they get someone new or drop them altogether.

Yeah I noticed that. So few paints.

Yes, they should all be like this video...

TreeStewges wrote:
How do we know they downplayed personalities?

Having watched her tutorials on WH+ and then her own tutorial on Rogue Hobbies, yeah, they stuck her to a script and little else. It's VERY obvious that her personality was suppressed in favor of a clean corporate script.

Her greater benefit is that she was able to showcase more of her personality on Twitter and Instagram.

GW lost a good one, but here's the thing: she's still making GW content. Talking GW lore and painting GW miniatures, just like Duncan is, and Peachy... They're all still supporting GW despite leaving the company, they're just getting paid more and get to do more of their own thing. Sure they'll do non-GW models and be able to say whatever they want now, but even if they truly hated GW (which isn't really the case, it's just a few issues with management), they're still feeding into the same hobby, because they have to, to remain relevant on Youtube

But, I wish her the best of luck, she has a really bright and colorful style and great personality.

It's generally a good thing when an artist gets good enough to make a living selling their own work rather than having to stay with a corporate job. Rebecca Guay, for example, was one of the best that Magic had, but she's able to make far more money now as an artist on her own.