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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/24/sunday-preview-codex-space-marines-slams-into-action/

Everything for space marines (including Agastus models) on a two week pre-order

No scouts.

 Kanluwen wrote:
No scouts.

Hmm. Being held back for a Kill Team release?

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
No scouts.

Hmm. Being held back for a Kill Team release?

That would be really dumb if so...so probably.

Also no Ballistus Dreadnought.

Also no Terminator Captain which was previewed at Nova.

Hey now, they can only release so many Space Marines in a week.
Gotta have at least two or three weeks for a new edition Codex release chunk. The train must roll on.

yeah My guess is that we'l get a second wave with the new ranged dread, scouts and the termy captain. and maybe something unexpected too.

That would make sense...if it were one week of preorders.

It's two.

If you watch the video, they include a shot of the table of contents. So we know what’s in the book (if there were any questions)

Apparently Leslie Nielsen has been reincarnated as a primaris lieutenant.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
No scouts.

Hmm. Being held back for a Kill Team release?

That would be really dumb if so...so probably.

Scouts were repeatedly rumoured to be a KT release before they were even officially confirmed, so that seems pretty likely. Probably they'll announce the KT box in the Warhammer day preview, then release it in November.

beast_gts wrote:
Also no Ballistus Dreadnought.

I wonder if they'll either make the Leviathan kit available direct-only, or if GW are keeping a multi-part version back to accompany the Dark Angels codex next year. Assault terminators could also get the same treatment.

 xttz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
No scouts.

Hmm. Being held back for a Kill Team release?

That would be really dumb if so...so probably.

Scouts were repeatedly rumoured to be a KT release before they were even officially confirmed, so that seems pretty likely. Probably they'll announce the KT box in the Warhammer day preview, then release it in November.

Yes, Scouts were repeatedly rumored to be a KT release by Valrak. He's now walked it back to "speculation", also presenting a "theory" that it's going to be flying KTs.

The Scouts article does nothing to suggest or imply that it is KT related. They're just...there. Just like everything else for the Space Marines from Nova, they received their own article, video, etc--all with the WH40K badging/promo wraps.

beast_gts wrote:
Also no Ballistus Dreadnought.

I wonder if they'll either make the Leviathan kit available direct-only, or if GW are keeping a multi-part version back to accompany the Dark Angels codex next year. Assault terminators could also get the same treatment.

It's possible that they don't intend on having a multi-part one for awhile yet.


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 Nevelon wrote:
If you watch the video, they include a shot of the table of contents. So we know what’s in the book (if there were any questions)

I cannot stress how dumb it is that there's a separate entry for the "Lieutenant with Combi-Weapon".

This is literally the goofiest crap since the existence of separate entries for the Reiver and Phobos Lieutenants.

 Kanluwen wrote:

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 Nevelon wrote:
If you watch the video, they include a shot of the table of contents. So we know what’s in the book (if there were any questions)

I cannot stress how dumb it is that there's a separate entry for the "Lieutenant with Combi-Weapon".

This is literally the goofiest crap since the existence of separate entries for the Reiver and Phobos Lieutenants.

No arguments here. The phobos Lt’s are a hot mess. It bugs me that the combi weapon guy is a lone wolf while the others are unit leaders. But nothing about their names tells you which is which.

Of course, the same could be said about most of the primaris unit names…

This whole book reeks of missed opportunities. Also interesting that still no sight of the Phobos assaulty with twin lightning claws ala the Raven Guard battleforce art.

 Nevelon wrote:
If you watch the video, they include a shot of the table of contents. So we know what’s in the book (if there were any questions)

Nice to see that the word 'Primaris' doesn't exist in the names of any of the data sheets. This means I don't need to replace my Jump Pack Captain.

Anyone that knows what the status of the chapter specific detachments and units available here

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/12/free-space-marines-index-cards-dark-angels-blood-angels-space-wolves-black-templars-and-deathwatch/

will be post release of the SM codex. To me it seems like the only possibility is that they can no longer be used as they don't work with the new codex.

Why can't they be used with the Space Marine release? The codex adds more detachments outside of the Gladius Detachment. Those detachments appear usable for SW, DA, DW, BT and BA units with the same caveats as before.

Hoffa76 wrote:
Anyone that knows what the status of the chapter specific detachments and units available here

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/12/free-space-marines-index-cards-dark-angels-blood-angels-space-wolves-black-templars-and-deathwatch/

will be post release of the SM codex. To me it seems like the only possibility is that they can no longer be used as they don't work with the new codex.

They'll be required since the new Codex does not include those units.

The rub will be for armies that utilize shared units - they'll need both this Codex and their Indexes, even in cases where they are using their own bespoke detachment. At least if the Tyranid release is any indication of what will happen with the Index.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I cannot stress how dumb it is that there's a separate entry for the "Lieutenant with Combi-Weapon".

I am in complete agreement. It's like when we had a Gravis Captain and Gravis Captain with Master Crafted Bolt Rifle.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Nice to see that the word 'Primaris' doesn't exist in the names of any of the data sheets. This means I don't need to replace my Jump Pack Captain.

Unless he has a Thunder Hammer, pair of Lightning Claws, or anything else that isn't Bolt Pistol/Plasma Pistol/Hand Flamer or Chainsword/Power Sword/Power Fist.

Most of my firstborn officers have magnets, so it should be easy to get them with the new program. Still going to be a lot of stuff not in the codex, but should be OK on gear for those that remain.

At least all the phobos Lts. Have different rules that justify the separate datasheets? There wasn’t even that thin an excuse for the gravis captains. They got a whole datasheet for what should have been a one line addition. At least in the new book the captains are more reasonable.

This might be the dullest marine codex release in a very, very long time. The new stuff is just bland and uninspiring.
I wonder if the new unit entries will match the existing data cards. Really not interested in buying anything, so will just use current cards with new detachments (which I don’t need a book for).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I cannot stress how dumb it is that there's a separate entry for the "Lieutenant with Combi-Weapon".

I am in complete agreement. It's like when we had a Gravis Captain and Gravis Captain with Master Crafted Bolt Rifle.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Nice to see that the word 'Primaris' doesn't exist in the names of any of the data sheets. This means I don't need to replace my Jump Pack Captain.

Unless he has a Thunder Hammer, pair of Lightning Claws, or anything else that isn't Bolt Pistol/Plasma Pistol/Hand Flamer or Chainsword/Power Sword/Power Fist.

pretty sure most people are gonna shrug and go "meh whatever" with that stuff

On the subject of the Lieutenant with Combi-weapon, he does have a very distinct ruleset compared to normal Lieutenants. He's a Lone Operative, where the others are leaders (of various different units depending on type). Personally I think he should have a cooler name (like Forward Ops Lieutenant or Tyrannic Veteran Lieutenant) but given his ruleset he definitely should be his own thing.

Prices

New Terminator Squad @ 40 GBP.. that's not too bad compared to the current pricing of the Assault Termies (37.50 GBP).

With GW's currency exchange hocus-pocus, I'm expecting 55 EUR.

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

New Terminator Squad @ 40 GBP.. that's not too bad compared to the current pricing of the Assault Termies (37.50 GBP).

With GW's currency exchange hocus-pocus, I'm expecting 55 EUR.

Yes its 55€

Sarigar wrote:
Why can't they be used with the Space Marine release? The codex adds more detachments outside of the Gladius Detachment. Those detachments appear usable for SW, DA, DW, BT and BA units with the same caveats as before.

I got fooled by the fact that a couple of BT Index cards have primaris in their name but I just realised Primaris is not a keyword in 10:th. It is silly that BT have both a Crusader Squad and a Primaris Crusader squad though. (I will play my Crusader Squads as Primaris Crusader Squads from now on as the regular Crusader Squad obviously will be removed when BT gets their 10:th edition update)

I hope there will be plenty of stock of the Terminators. I wouldn't mind picking up a box, but I do mind placing an order just for them in case they sell out and GW doesn't make more for half a year.

Company Heroes seem…ok at £40. £8 for character type sculpts.

Not cheap. But doesn’t feel demented to me.