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See I'm looking at the release the Lizardmen just got, and the complete and utter lack of new Cold One riders they got.

"But they..."

Aggradons and Raptadons are not Cold Ones.

So, yes, these could be Kroot riding Knarlocs... or they could be Kroot riding Krootanok Mawstalkers or some other nonsense name for a new unit.

It’ll be a new unit obviously to sell everyone new toys. Primaris Knarlocs fits current m.o.

The kroot looks like he has an old spyglass and a longrifle, so its probably the kind of mobile sniperteam that GW really like to make these days.
Probably has little to no viability in most games.

Featherspineback Krootsteedox.

The new kroot mount doesn't seem to have the kroot-style beak that literally all kroot 'animal' form have. I think it might actually be a kroot riding a non-kroot creature, which is weird.

EDIT: also a distinct lack of quills on the mount.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
I think it might actually be a kroot riding a non-kroot creature, which is weird.

The Kroot are present all over galaxy, travelling in their Warspheres so they could find some alien mounts to use alongside traditional ones.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
The new kroot mount doesn't seem to have the kroot-style beak that literally all kroot 'animal' form have. I think it might actually be a kroot riding a non-kroot creature, which is weird.

EDIT: also a distinct lack of quills on the mount.

I fully agree, I 100% believe whatever that Kroot is riding isnt in the krootis species. Knarloc, Kroot and Kroothounds all have tale tail signifiers, like evolutionary dead-ends that dont change regardless of sub-species they devolve into. Overbite beak, quills, short stumpy tail. Whatever this mount is, it aint Kroot! We have the rumour engine for its tail and its pretty much like a Kroxigors with boney protrusions and hardened scales, its also really lithe and long. It looks agile whereas Knarlocs are very stocky and sturdy! All muscle and thighs.

Could it be Krootis? probably I dunno. It has sensory whiskers under its bottom jaw and the sides of its head but they arent quills, then its got a heavy brow like an Aggradon. What I think GW has done has given them some exotic Xenos lizard mount to really make the Kroot and Tau look even more alien though I wish they did that for the Tarellians and kept the Kroot purely within their own species to really sell how utterly weird Kroot are with their sub-species.


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 Dysartes wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Orkamedies? Nazdreg?

I'd be up for the return of Nazdreg.

I dont think its Nazdreg, for starters that Bosspole would be plastered in any Clan glyph and it isnt, if it were badmoons you wouldnt miss the icon thats for sure.. Nazdreg is also in Mega-armour which this Mek isnt in. More like a kind of exo-suit, he has a bionik left foot, the same powerklaw the Megamek has, a Traktor Kannon (Nazdreg has a gatling blasta) and some form of shokkjump whirlygig on his back which could either be the techno gubbins for the traktor or a personal teleporta (in the same fashion of the new Overlord, letting the leader port a squad about with him).

Infact I dont think this is a named character at all, it looks very Clan agnostic, I cant see a symbol insight. His Bosspole is just a sawblade and a 3 headed spanner. Probably could be a named character but it doesnt scream to me any of the Meks we have in the lore. Aint Mogrok (he created the Tellyporta Blasta), doesnt fit Orkimedes. Reckon its either a completely new named BadMek (exiled) or a generic Mekboss.

Didn't we recently have rumors about a big kroot refresh/expansion coming with the next tau codex that mentioned mounted kroot/cavalry kroot or whatever? Bit of a confirmation of that rumors veracity?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Didn't we recently have rumors about a big kroot refresh/expansion coming with the next tau codex that mentioned mounted kroot/cavalry kroot or whatever? Bit of a confirmation of that rumors veracity?

Yes but people don't like it when Valrak is right.

Well, looks like he is, again. Maybe one day he'll be right about a new 40k Rogal Dorn primarch mini lol

Dudeface wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Didn't we recently have rumors about a big kroot refresh/expansion coming with the next tau codex that mentioned mounted kroot/cavalry kroot or whatever? Bit of a confirmation of that rumors veracity?

Yes but people don't like it when Valrak is right.

Or maybe people don't like it when Valrak is given credit for rumors/speculation done years in advance of him "reporting" on it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Didn't we recently have rumors about a big kroot refresh/expansion coming with the next tau codex that mentioned mounted kroot/cavalry kroot or whatever? Bit of a confirmation of that rumors veracity?

Yes but people don't like it when Valrak is right.

Or maybe people don't like it when Valrak is given credit for rumors/speculation done years in advance of him "reporting" on it.

Nah, it's definitely the former. I saw people claiming his Lion rumours were obvious and that anyone could have guessed it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Didn't we recently have rumors about a big kroot refresh/expansion coming with the next tau codex that mentioned mounted kroot/cavalry kroot or whatever? Bit of a confirmation of that rumors veracity?

Yes but people don't like it when Valrak is right.

Or maybe people don't like it when Valrak is given credit for rumors/speculation done years in advance of him "reporting" on it.

OK, so who is he parroting the kroot rumours off?

Imagine getting angry at someone because the rumors they reported turn out to be right.

Ah, the top brazz Tau realized they need to keep a tighter leash on kroot and have them work with an other species that report directly to the blue guys.
For the greater good ofcourse.

This might be a bit out there, but the kroot's mount looks like a vaguely reptilian quadruped, with heavy 'crocodile' style scales on the torso and tail, and a head that seems kind of 'boxy'.

Doesn't that fit the description of a grox pretty well? We've seen a lot of 'old school' creatures like the ambull and gyrinx returning over the last few years. Wouldn't be that strange to have a frequently-mentioned but no longer seen xeno-critter return.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say every single model shown there is a named character. Apart from Leviathan, they only showed named characters as part of GW's "watershed year".

I agree Nazdreg seems like a good bet for the Ork, that gun looks very Kustom Blasta X in appearance. That Kroot is a brand new character if this is the case.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Gonna go out on a limb here and say every single model shown there is a named character. Apart from Leviathan, they only showed named characters as part of GW's "watershed year".

I agree Nazdreg seems like a good bet for the Ork, that gun looks very Kustom Blasta X in appearance. That Kroot is a brand new character if this is the case.

Whoever that Ork is, it seems like a very scrawny body in some sort of exoskeleton or frame that's distinct from a Mega Armour. You can see support pistons under the arms, and the feet have some sort of bracing behind them, while the actual "pilot's" feet are somewhere on the shin of the exo-skeleton.On the right side of the picture, you can sort-of imagine an ork arm holding some sort of control device, while the larger gun-arm is just part of the suit. I.e. it's another "baby carrier".

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Gonna go out on a limb here and say every single model shown there is a named character. Apart from Leviathan, they only showed named characters as part of GW's "watershed year".

I agree Nazdreg seems like a good bet for the Ork, that gun looks very Kustom Blasta X in appearance. That Kroot is a brand new character if this is the case.

Whoever that Ork is, it seems like a very scrawny body in some sort of exoskeleton or frame that's distinct from a Mega Armour. You can see support pistons under the arms, and the feet have some sort of bracing behind them, while the actual "pilot's" feet are somewhere on the shin of the exo-skeleton.On the right side of the picture, you can sort-of imagine an ork arm holding some sort of control device, while the larger gun-arm is just part of the suit. I.e. it's another "baby carrier".

I thought that too. The only reason I can see them modding Nazdreg to either be out of Mega Armour, is Ghazza is *the* character in Mega Armour (something I disagree with the notion of, but I'm trying to rationalise a speculated thought process here), and Nazza is now no longer in MA, or his entire body is bionic. I'm not seeing a lot of evidence of scale on the model, as there doesn't appear to be any obvious skulls and the like to easily gauge how big it is, but the base is lacking the typical scenic base treatment that GW gives big characters, so that's another point against it being Nazdreg.

Edit-
Light enhanced version of it I found. Can see a few details a tad better.
https://i.imgur.com/3fwWyZb.mp4

And the Kroot and Custard Cream for completeness.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tau40K/comments/18rcq9c/other_angles_on_the_kroot_rider/
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fe843ytmd5n8c1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D481%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6d1ebefbb130995626bb39fd0ed1267f5aa014c9

Kroot merc working for exodites on an eldar dinosaur.

Probability on the “Redacted” slot being a Kroot codex?

So a Winged Hussar custode, and a Kroot riding what looks to be a modernized version of the old dark elf cold ones.

As for the roadmap, I think the fact that Tau are coming in probably around 3-6 months time per the same roadmap probably limits the likelihood of this being related to a forthcoming standalone kroot mercs book.

 Grimtuff wrote:

Light enhanced version of it I found. Can see a few details a tad better.
https://i.imgur.com/3fwWyZb.mp4

That guy has more hardware than Cawl and I'm here for it. Don't care about the rules, he clearly has enough teef to join my bad moons list.

 Jadenim wrote:
Probability on the “Redacted” slot being a Kroot codex?

Extremely low/non-existent. It's a placeholder.

Curious if they’re redoing the lootas box and that’s the mech leading the squad?

Very excited about the kroot and custodes.

 Gulgog TufToof wrote:
Curious if they’re redoing the lootas box and that’s the mech leading the squad?

I'd rather they did plastic Tank Bustas (finally) then mess with the plastic kits that do exist.

I saw the Orky profile and thought it looked a bit like the Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, but then I remembered that the BMWSAG is a relatively recent model so it's unlikely to be that. Maybe it's a Big Mek with some other kind of wacky Orky weapon and not a named character at all?

It looks like a shock jump tellyporta on the back, and the weapon is some sort of trakta cannon or lifta droppa variant.

I wonder if it will be a fixed character, or if it will have a few options, like an alt weapon or kff instead of tellyporta.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
The only thing worse than marketing hyperbole is the even-more-hyperbolic discussions on here about it afterwards.

Amen, brother. The usual suspects at their usual spiel, guess it's another six months of lurking then. Merry Christmas to all!

I find it very funny how you dealt Daedelus81 the true death and then seemingly retired in penance, btw.