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The fates of the various cultist and traitor guard models fluctuate more than the fleshy bodies of spawn.

Kiss goodbye to cultist grenade launchers next codex.

Zagstruk and Badrukk as MTO is a bit of a dick move considering they've been thrown out of the Codex when, last week? At least they could have made them in metal.

Just thinking that the Chaos Marine patrol box would see double use as extra models for BSF and as a 40K combat patrol.

Been pondering the future of 10th edition, and I'm guessing that we'll see an Imperial version of the Wardogs kit and finally a Chaos Tyrant.

I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

23 years and 7 editions later will do that to a range

Kinda disappointed the MTO isn't all metal. The Old World gave me hope that finecast was official dead and that resin models would be metal. Guess it was too much a hassle for a one week order schedule

 GaroRobe wrote:
Kinda disappointed the MTO isn't all metal. The Old World gave me hope that finecast was official dead and that resin models would be metal. Guess it was too much a hassle for a one week order schedule

From what I remember the molds had to be changed to work properly with finecast, so they may be still trying to get some mileage from those instead of preparing new ones specifically for metal.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i thought the cultist firebrand came from the same kit as the other blackstone cultists?

He did, but he's on his own sprue, so can be released as a solo model.

With his own datasheet, too, it seems.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

I'm glad I'm not the only one!

It's funny though even though Necrons are not that much older and Squats are much newer, the Tau always still feel like the "new guys" in the game.

 Overread wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

I'm glad I'm not the only one!

It's funny though even though Necrons are not that much older and Squats are much newer, the Tau always still feel like the "new guys" in the game.

I think it's the anime aesthetic. While Admech are much newer in terms of actual models, they fit into the 'grimdark' and almost steampunk tech that pervades the setting.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

if something is older than a lot of players, you can definitely call it classic


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 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

I'm glad I'm not the only one!

It's funny though even though Necrons are not that much older and Squats are much newer, the Tau always still feel like the "new guys" in the game.

I think it's the anime aesthetic. While Admech are much newer in terms of actual models, they fit into the 'grimdark' and almost steampunk tech that pervades the setting.

i still don't really get what people mean when they call T'au "anime". i know there's the robots but the actual aesthetics of the T'au feel much more Buddhist/Indian in nature than Japanese

That VotLW box is excellent.

If I didn't have a packed project schedule (and just about enough self-control) I'd seriously consider it.

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 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

I'm glad I'm not the only one!

It's funny though even though Necrons are not that much older and Squats are much newer, the Tau always still feel like the "new guys" in the game.

I think it's the anime aesthetic. While Admech are much newer in terms of actual models, they fit into the 'grimdark' and almost steampunk tech that pervades the setting.

i still don't really get what people mean when they call T'au "anime". i know there's the robots but the actual aesthetics of the T'au feel much more Buddhist/Indian in nature than Japanese

Lets face it, over the last few decades the west really hasn't done "Mecha" at all really. We've a few tries, but mostly its Mech Warrior and in TV/film world the only real mecha has been PowerRangers. Otherwise mecha series have nearly all originated from anime to the point where, to some, its "anime" as a concept. Western mech use tends to be more as a machine, but very much not the focus of a film or series - with the odd exception like Pacific Rim.

So its not necessarily the designs, but the fact that mecha has been from anime land for so long.
That said they also have a lot of asian influences here and there in the style and asthetics of the faction.



I do agree that its a good point that many of their designs are more fresh/clean than the Grim Dark gothic that we are more used too with many other factions. They have that "shiny new" feel to everything about them. It's also likely that the lore for them is pretty new too. They don't have ancient lore like the Necrons do that wriggles its way into the background of the setting. Tau haven't shaped the Galaxy at one time; or been part of ancient power bodies or such. Everything about them is "new and shiny".

I am seriously hoping Abaddon's lack of all four god key words is an oversight...

Semper wrote:
I am seriously hoping Abaddon's lack of all four god key words is an oversight...

That would be incredibly worrisome.

Also, the DAMNED keyword is new, right?

 Overread wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:


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 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm confused by the concept of "classic" Tau kits.

I'm glad I'm not the only one!

It's funny though even though Necrons are not that much older and Squats are much newer, the Tau always still feel like the "new guys" in the game.

I think it's the anime aesthetic. While Admech are much newer in terms of actual models, they fit into the 'grimdark' and almost steampunk tech that pervades the setting.

i still don't really get what people mean when they call T'au "anime". i know there's the robots but the actual aesthetics of the T'au feel much more Buddhist/Indian in nature than Japanese

Lets face it, over the last few decades the west really hasn't done "Mecha" at all really. We've a few tries, but mostly its Mech Warrior and in TV/film world the only real mecha has been PowerRangers. Otherwise mecha series have nearly all originated from anime to the point where, to some, its "anime" as a concept. Western mech use tends to be more as a machine, but very much not the focus of a film or series - with the odd exception like Pacific Rim.

So its not necessarily the designs, but the fact that mecha has been from anime land for so long.
That said they also have a lot of asian influences here and there in the style and asthetics of the faction.



I do agree that its a good point that many of their designs are more fresh/clean than the Grim Dark gothic that we are more used too with many other factions. They have that "shiny new" feel to everything about them. It's also likely that the lore for them is pretty new too. They don't have ancient lore like the Necrons do that wriggles its way into the background of the setting. Tau haven't shaped the Galaxy at one time; or been part of ancient power bodies or such. Everything about them is "new and shiny".

that's fair; as i said, i don't really think of t'au as being "the robots faction"; the unifying aspect and caste system, which feels more significant for the character and background of the faction (granted, the models tell a different story, but hey at least we got new kroot)

tau gossip aside ... when are we expecting the tau point fixes ffs??????

 aracersss wrote:
tau gossip aside ... when are we expecting the tau point fixes ffs??????

This week, its normally the Wednesday or Thursday before release date so either 8th or 9th

That one CSM box with the Raptors and Havocs is really unique in that among SC boxes as that it has three HQ's. Also, while I do like the new Combat Patrol, I kind of wish that they would just go back to the last Start Collecting box with the Shadowspear models, with the Great Possessed models replaced with one GP new model that serves as a new HQ. The old GP models can either be packaged with the Master of Possession, maybe as some kind of specialist bodyguard, or packaged with the regular Possessed kit.

I am disappointed that there were no old metal Chaos models. I didn't buy the metal DP model when it was released as a limited time offer, a decision that I now regret. Also, I want the old Terminator Lord with horns pointing down.

Prices for this week:



10€ increase on the big boxes compared to the Ork/Custodes ones

Ooo, the gunrig coming back as MTO, tempting. I was always a little miffed that they stopped making that, though certain things from the same 'set' like the droneport are still available.

Though, when I got mine it was nearly forty quid, I dread what it might cost this time around.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I am disappointed that there were no old metal Chaos models. I didn't buy the metal DP model when it was released as a limited time offer, a decision that I now regret. Also, I want the old Terminator Lord with horns pointing down.

Id bet that CSM will get a MTO later, maybe alongside the next 40k codex release. They want people buying the new models, and then expanding with the older MTO stuff.

Bit late this time but heres the summary for Valraks newest video about EC:

Fulgrim
Lucius
Noise marines
New Cataphractii-based Terminators (poor WE, only ones without specific Terminators)
New Slaanesh cultist-like unit

No Eidolon
Other new HQs

Everything could change as always but should be out by the end of 2025

 Matrindur wrote:
Bit late this time but heres the summary for Valraks newest video about EC:

Fulgrim
Lucius
Noise marines
New Cataphractii-based Terminators (poor WE, only ones without specific Terminators)
New Slaanesh cultist-like unit

No new Eidolon
Other new HQs

Everything could change as always but should be out by the end of 2025

Sooo... the only relevant rumour is, that Terminators are Cataphractii (and it could change till the end of 2025). The rest is just 'of course'. And what 'no new Eidolon', there isn't an old one for 40k.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
And what 'no new Eidolon', there isn't an old one for 40k.

Better now?

 Matrindur wrote:
Bit late this time but heres the summary for Valraks newest video about EC:

Fulgrim
Lucius
Noise marines
New Cataphractii-based Terminators (poor WE, only ones without specific Terminators)
New Slaanesh cultist-like unit

No Eidolon
Other new HQs

Everything could change as always but should be out by the end of 2025

tbf, eighbound feel like they were supposed to be WE's terminators. in classic WE fashion, they traded the range options for even more melee violence

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Bit late this time but heres the summary for Valraks newest video about EC:

Fulgrim
Lucius
Noise marines
New Cataphractii-based Terminators (poor WE, only ones without specific Terminators)
New Slaanesh cultist-like unit

No Eidolon
Other new HQs

Everything could change as always but should be out by the end of 2025

tbf, eighbound feel like they were supposed to be WE's terminators. in classic WE fashion, they traded the range options for even more melee violence

Red Butchers existed once, would be nice to get a 40K version.

Why would they go for cataphractii terminators rather than tartaros? Feels like the tartaros phoenix guardians quickly became iconic for the 30k EC.
But then again, perhaps that is exactly why they dont want to do a kit that would easily substitute the resin models.

 Fayric wrote:
Why would they go for cataphractii terminators rather than tartaros? Feels like the tartaros phoenix guardians quickly became iconic for the 30k EC.
But then again, perhaps that is exactly why they dont want to do a kit that would easily substitute the resin models.

Because no team knows the lore of the other stage of the universe and of course what you pointed out with the strict split of the models available.

Makes me wonder if Horus Heresy gets embiggened Cataphractii soon and the Emprah's Kiddies design is based on it because the Cataphractii design was locked in at the time of sculpting while embiggened Tartaros was not.