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 Jack Flask wrote:


Right, but the rumor is specifically that it's a box of Terminators, Assault Terminators, a Terminator Ancient, a Terminator Chaplain, and a Terminator Captain; all in the new BIG-inator scale. But currently the Assault Terminators are the old 6th(?) Ed small-inators, so GW would have to release Assault BIG-inators sometime between now and December to make that possible.

Sure I'm not doubting the arrival of assault termies, just saying there's precedent for brand new products being bundled into a big box splash release or otherwise available through non-standard SKUs, often at a discount.

I like how the harli CP feels very self contained. You can embark all troupe and it’s all fast moving jetbike/skimmer things. The kind of force that might just show up and fight alongside another, without worrying about how the footsloggers/support elements got there.

Some patrols feel like a random mish-mash of units just chucked into the box. This one feels coherent.

Slightly sad to see that DkoK cavalry in there, I've been waiting for this box for a while and if it had 15-20 more infantry bodies instead it would be the perfect companion to the DkoK army box.

beast_gts wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
So GW shared an article about the upcoming Knights codex, am I the only one let down by the exclusion of the Cerastus Knights? I mean, they have plastic models, so that excuse doesn’t comply…

They're 30k models, and you can't cross the (revenue) streams...

Yeah, there is no way they would have Armigers and Questoris in 30k, so why would the Cerastus go to 40k.

After catching up on this thread, all I can hear in my head is Chappell Roan singing, "I'm gonna keep on dancing at the Krieg pony club!"

I almost want to Weird Al the lyrics to the entire song for the lulls.

A Chappell Roan reference!? In MY dakkadakka!???

Well done, ill be coming up with my own lyrics to annoy my mates.

 Nevelon wrote:
I like how the harli CP feels very self contained. You can embark all troupe and it’s all fast moving jetbike/skimmer things. The kind of force that might just show up and fight alongside another, without worrying about how the footsloggers/support elements got there.

Some patrols feel like a random mish-mash of units just chucked into the box. This one feels coherent.

I must say that while I was impressed with the Twilight Cavalcade, this is even more better. Maybe one unit too many in comparison to most other patrols( most are 430-ish points ), but its a good mix of kits indeed.

I'm a bit miffed that GW didn't release this sooner in 10th edition's life. Its all old kits and without a coinciding codex book release there was no reason to hold this set back. Given how similar the lists are for both patrols, the Twilight Cavalcade could have been the later patrol with only the additional cost of a Shadowseer and a second Troupe kit. Once again, the Troupe Master easily kitbashed from left over components from the bundle.

Still, I'm happy with it and only need to spend £22 on a Starweaver kit to complete the patrol.

Is Calgar just gone from the store now? I was half expecting them to keep both models available since the current one is so new. I grabbed two of him predicting this, I'm gonna paint up a full 10 man honor guard squad for display and wanted those sword and board victrix. Four of them plus two victrix boxes will do the trick.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Is Calgar just gone from the store now? I was half expecting them to keep both models available since the current one is so new. I grabbed two of him predicting this, I'm gonna paint up a full 10 man honor guard squad for display and wanted those sword and board victrix. Four of them plus two victrix boxes will do the trick.

Given how the new kit specifies he is Marneus Calgar in Armour of Antilochus, there's at least a chance that the old kit will be made available again in new packaging and usable via a different datasheet.

If that happened I'd expect that it would be a fixed size unit of old Calgar & 2 guards, while the new terminator Calgar model can join a varaible 3-6 model unit of Victrix guard without shields.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Is Calgar just gone from the store now? I was half expecting them to keep both models available since the current one is so new. I grabbed two of him predicting this, I'm gonna paint up a full 10 man honor guard squad for display and wanted those sword and board victrix. Four of them plus two victrix boxes will do the trick.

It will be interesting to see how the kits are laid out. With a little luck, the Victrix and the Bladeguard Veterans will work together. So if you wanted some sword and board victrix, you might be able to kitbash your own.

Fingers crossed we see rules for both versions in the codex.

Aside from being Ultramarines-specific. those Victrix models suffer from wearing the dumbest-looking helmets in the history of Space Marines. The Aquilastache helmet looked dumb on that one Captain kit ages ago - spreading it to a whole unit?

Hard pass.

They're just Dr Robotnik fanboys.

 Fayric wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
So GW shared an article about the upcoming Knights codex, am I the only one let down by the exclusion of the Cerastus Knights? I mean, they have plastic models, so that excuse doesn’t comply…

They're 30k models, and you can't cross the (revenue) streams...

Yeah, there is no way they would have Armigers and Questoris in 30k, so why would the Cerastus go to 40k.

But there are Questoris in 30k, just look at LImp

 BorderCountess wrote:
Aside from being Ultramarines-specific. those Victrix models suffer from wearing the dumbest-looking helmets in the history of Space Marines. The Aquilastache helmet looked dumb on that one Captain kit ages ago - spreading it to a whole unit?

Hard pass.

Ultramarines Honour Guard had them before that Captain did, except without the mouth grille he had that makes it really look like a mustache
It'd be weird if the Victrix lacked such an iconic look (especially since Gravis Calgar already established they have them already)

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:
Aside from being Ultramarines-specific. those Victrix models suffer from wearing the dumbest-looking helmets in the history of Space Marines. The Aquilastache helmet looked dumb on that one Captain kit ages ago - spreading it to a whole unit?

Hard pass.

Ultramarines Honour Guard had them before that Captain did, except without the mouth grille he had that makes it really look like a mustache
It'd be weird if the Victrix lacked such an iconic look (especially since Gravis Calgar already established they have them already)

It’s a little silly, but also iconic. I’m glad they kept it.

I would also assume that its an incredibly simple thing to fix if you have a spare head lying around.

Only the Alpha Legion may wear the Aquila on their chests. They turn out to be traitors, so the privilege is extended to all loyalist chapters. To be extra special, the Ultramarines start slapping the symbol on their faces as well as their chests.

You’re thinking of The Emperor’s Children there.

 Malika2 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
So GW shared an article about the upcoming Knights codex, am I the only one let down by the exclusion of the Cerastus Knights? I mean, they have plastic models, so that excuse doesn’t comply…

They're 30k models, and you can't cross the (revenue) streams...

Yeah, there is no way they would have Armigers and Questoris in 30k, so why would the Cerastus go to 40k.

But there are Questoris in 30k, just look at LImp

I know, that was the point We obviously, already have models that double in both systems. The facepalm was directed at beast_gts. but I admit, I was not clear in my communication

 Fayric wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
So GW shared an article about the upcoming Knights codex, am I the only one let down by the exclusion of the Cerastus Knights? I mean, they have plastic models, so that excuse doesn’t comply…

They're 30k models, and you can't cross the (revenue) streams...

Yeah, there is no way they would have Armigers and Questoris in 30k, so why would the Cerastus go to 40k.

But there are Questoris in 30k, just look at LImp

Sorry, I was checking this stuff on my phone and totally overlooked the facepalm. My bad!


I know, that was the point We obviously, already have models that double in both systems. The facepalm was directed at beast_gts. but I admit, I was not clear in my communication

 Fayric wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
So GW shared an article about the upcoming Knights codex, am I the only one let down by the exclusion of the Cerastus Knights? I mean, they have plastic models, so that excuse doesn’t comply…

They're 30k models, and you can't cross the (revenue) streams...

Yeah, there is no way they would have Armigers and Questoris in 30k, so why would the Cerastus go to 40k.

But there are Questoris in 30k, just look at LImp

I know, that was the point We obviously, already have models that double in both systems. The facepalm was directed at beast_gts. but I admit, I was not clear in my communication

 BorderCountess wrote:
Aside from being Ultramarines-specific. those Victrix models suffer from wearing the dumbest-looking helmets in the history of Space Marines. The Aquilastache helmet looked dumb on that one Captain kit ages ago - spreading it to a whole unit?

Hard pass.

Just so I'm clear, you like this helmet better?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:
Aside from being Ultramarines-specific. those Victrix models suffer from wearing the dumbest-looking helmets in the history of Space Marines. The Aquilastache helmet looked dumb on that one Captain kit ages ago - spreading it to a whole unit?

Hard pass.

Just so I'm clear, you like this helmet better?

If we are helmet shaming to find the worst, I always hated the pig snout helm that came with the VV kit.

I’ve always liked the wolf helms. That specific one is maybe a bit derpy, but I like the concept.

 Flinty wrote:
I’ve always liked the wolf helms. That specific one is maybe a bit derpy, but I like the concept.

I always thought there'd be a good opportunity to make a variety of animal themed helmets. The idea's loosely inspired by the stargate helmets (if you squint a bit and with fewer Egyptian influences) but it would be a nice bonus for all kinds of animal themed chapters to give their special units or leaders.

I actually do really like that specific head. Huge upgrade over the one from the old plastic unit and nowhere near as goofy as the MIA horus heresy upgrade

 Fayric wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
So GW shared an article about the upcoming Knights codex, am I the only one let down by the exclusion of the Cerastus Knights? I mean, they have plastic models, so that excuse doesn’t comply…

They're 30k models, and you can't cross the (revenue) streams...

Yeah, there is no way they would have Armigers and Questoris in 30k, so why would the Cerastus go to 40k.

But there are Questoris in 30k, just look at LImp

I know, that was the point We obviously, already have models that double in both systems. The facepalm was directed at beast_gts. but I admit, I was not clear in my communication

Mario wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
I’ve always liked the wolf helms. That specific one is maybe a bit derpy, but I like the concept.

I always thought there'd be a good opportunity to make a variety of animal themed helmets. The idea's loosely inspired by the stargate helmets (if you squint a bit and with fewer Egyptian influences) but it would be a nice bonus for all kinds of animal themed chapters to give their special units or leaders.

these guys are probably for you then

https://puppetswar.eu/resin-models-and-bits/all-bits/heads.html

They do a selection of animal themed heads. Again with the Egyptian style to several of them, but maybe not all.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:
Aside from being Ultramarines-specific. those Victrix models suffer from wearing the dumbest-looking helmets in the history of Space Marines. The Aquilastache helmet looked dumb on that one Captain kit ages ago - spreading it to a whole unit?

Hard pass.

Just so I'm clear, you like this helmet better?

As compared to the Aquilastache? Absolutely.