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Dunno why but not really feeling those Raiders. GW has probs modelling cloth or something, the end result looks far too action figure'y than it would need to. Or its the paintjob, idk..

Such a pity, as the Raiders kit would otherwise have plenty of kitbashing potential (it still might have some cool bitz, but the torsos would need work)

I wonder if this is the look for the new defiler, the EC codex on the war machines page had a large unknown vehicle on it that we were debating on if it was just fancy art, but the smoke stacks having a shoulder pad next to them and the rumour of legion specific heads make me think it might be a fancied up version of defiler art (there is a mauler fiend with a unique head to side that was just jazzed up art for codex but mostly based on the mauler model). If true Im thinking it might be closer to a mini lord of skulls style torso over the old box torso.

The not-Legionnaires and not-Swooping Hawks both being 2 duplicate sprues kind of sucks.

I like how the Raiders don't loot Primaris equipment because that's against the Pirate Code.

 tauist wrote:
Dunno why but not really feeling those Raiders. GW has probs modelling cloth or something, the end result looks far too action figure'y than it would need to. Or its the paintjob, idk..

Such a pity, as the Raiders kit would otherwise have plenty of kitbashing potential (it still might have some cool bitz, but the torsos would need work)

Not 40K, but the Raiders are screaming out to be used as Black Shields in Heresy. Would benefit from some minor conversions and kit bashing for era appropriate weapons. But even without that they absolutely look the part of Marines on the edge of supply lines and that.

Also, and a minor thing? I’m liking that the colours of the Red Corsairs are that uniform black and red, but they’re not painted in a particularly uniform way.

Can’t decide whether I like the Vyper update. Looks good, I like the profile a lot. Sharper details as well. Which is a rare sight nowadays (in resin/metal to plastic transition at least)

But the grooves on the old design and a more robust hull are such classic features, that have been burned into my brain since childhood.
The new one feels more like a plane, the old one - a fast weapon platform, which I slightly prefer.

Might buy the old Vyper before the “OOP” price hike…

The red corsairs are pretty neat, the characters are great (I like huron the least and by a great stretch, lol)
And a couple of those “rank and file” dudes in old marks of armour make my heart ache, that primaris exist rather than a rescale of the classic design, but oh well. We got heresy for that at least.

Kharseth is splendid. I absolutely adore that helmet design, and the pose… damn good mini

The rest - meh, not my cup of tea

What Xeno race is that lizard man? Looks like something worth fleshing out more.

Tarrelian Dog Soldier, first shown in art in the 3rd Ed Rulebook.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also, and you’ll have to manage your own expectations on this one? But from the Heresy Custards article…

Heresy Custards on Warhammer Community wrote:We’ve dropped a few hints that some of these models are also perfect for using in Warhammer 40,000 and it’s entirely true. A rules update for the Adeptus Custodes is set for later this year. But several of these new miniatures are already perfectly suitable to represent current units in Warhammer 40,000.

I think anyone with a memory span longer than 3 years will see the warning flags go up here. The new 'stodes don't aesthetically match any of the existing 40k kits and I expect there will be a 40k release wave that they use to sever the ranges. Worth noting GW haven't acknowledged the new edition right around the corner so any comments they make about the rules are entirely framed around 10th edition which may well end within a month of the banana box dropping.

Apparently mould lines are making a comeback.

Look at the leg of the Custodes model. Was this just a mistake, or is the bug a feature now?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Apparently mould lines are making a comeback.

Look at the leg of the Custodes model. Was this just a mistake, or is the bug a feature now?

Presumably that's just a ridge in the armour like the current models also have.

It's an armor ridge, it's present on Stormcast as well.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Dunno why but not really feeling those Raiders. GW has probs modelling cloth or something, the end result looks far too action figure'y than it would need to. Or its the paintjob, idk..

Such a pity, as the Raiders kit would otherwise have plenty of kitbashing potential (it still might have some cool bitz, but the torsos would need work)

Not 40K, but the Raiders are screaming out to be used as Black Shields in Heresy. Would benefit from some minor conversions and kit bashing for era appropriate weapons. But even without that they absolutely look the part of Marines on the edge of supply lines and that.

Also, and a minor thing? I’m liking that the colours of the Red Corsairs are that uniform black and red, but they’re not painted in a particularly uniform way.

By all means, you do you. I like the Red Corsairs characters, and that alligator hunter dude with an alien dog and a powerfist are going to my shopping cart (to fill out my RT Bestiary), but I just aint feeling the raiders. Felt the same way about CSM Legionnaires when they came to KT21 Nachmund. Too much action figur'y derp on those models for my sensibilities. If I was going to do HH blackshields, I'd kitbash stock HH kits + odds and ends instead of using these. Think along the lines of that ex BA marine bloke in Necromunda. Sprinkling some scout armour bitz etc.. I've also seen some decent looking unorthodox armour mark combos on 30K subreddit which could work as a base. Add some autoguns and lasguns from Necromunda and that.. Plenty of variants for both weapons in the NEC bitz range to represent a random clutch of looted guns. Just some ideas off the top of me ed

Wasnt a fan of the new 40K EC models either, aside from some odd bitz like some of the heads and that. Guess I'm very particular when it comes to Astartes (which is also why MKX Tacticus and Phobos armours are a hard pass for me). No idea why Gravis battleplate doesnt rub me the wrong way though..

 Platuan4th wrote:
It's an armor ridge, it's present on Stormcast as well.

Indeed, but that aside, there are sometimes mistakes in these. Have you ever looked at the 360 view of Alpharius on the GW site? They forgot to attach his right hand to his wrist. Oopsie doo!

 NAVARRO wrote:
What Xeno race is that lizard man? Looks like something worth fleshing out more.

As others have said, it's a Tarellian, a race notable for fighting as mercenaries for various sides regardless of their alignment. They've been mentioned to have worked for Huron, for various Chaos/Renegade groups, for Druchari and the T'au as far as i'm aware. They also have some noteworthy naval assets.

His sidekick is more interesting in my opinion: the preview states that it's a Barghesi, which is kind of a big deal - they've been alluded to as "hyper-violent" in source material at least as far back as 3rd edition, and they're reputed to be a major-ish galactic threat because of something in their biological make-up: the Imperium is very afraid of the 'nids getting hold of so much as a single sample of Barghesi genetic material, to the point that there's a dedicated chapter of Astartes whose job consists of making sure that no Barghesi leave their worlds, and nothing gets in, especially not nids. Barghesi violence-juice is one of the things that makes Bile's "New Men" so... violent, among other things. This critter here is the first official representation of a Barghesi in either model or art afaik, and it being just the pet of what might as well be a random Kroot is somewhat underwhelming.

'Lizard man' the tarellian is also lizard woman, according to GW. Just so we know...

I think maybe if the armor ridge didn't extend to the sole of the shoe, and if it could decide whether it wants to be on the knee or not, would make it look a lot better. More deliberate.

Sorry, but that pirate captain lady is just pants-on-head stupid. In case you didn't realize she's a ship captain, they gave her what looks like an actual piece of her ship's bridge to float around the battlefield on. Why would you want the captain of your ship floating around an active warzone instead of, oh I don't know, commanding the ship from the safety of said ship? They should have painted her as hologram - that would have made more sense at least.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Sorry, but that pirate captain lady is just pants-on-head stupid. In case you didn't realize she's a ship captain, they gave her what looks like an actual piece of her ship's bridge to float around the battlefield on. Why would you want the captain of your ship floating around an active warzone instead of, oh I don't know, commanding the ship from the safety of said ship? They should have painted her as hologram - that would have made more sense at least.

Ah yes, the realistic and carefully considered battle tactics and strategy common to 40k. This is clearly an aberration, completely against the themes and actions of the setting.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Sorry, but that pirate captain lady is just pants-on-head stupid. In case you didn't realize she's a ship captain, they gave her what looks like an actual piece of her ship's bridge to float around the battlefield on. Why would you want the captain of your ship floating around an active warzone instead of, oh I don't know, commanding the ship from the safety of said ship? They should have painted her as hologram - that would have made more sense at least.

I mean, yes, all true. But it also is a wicked looking model and I want one to use as a Rogue Trader.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Sorry, but that pirate captain lady is just pants-on-head stupid. In case you didn't realize she's a ship captain, they gave her what looks like an actual piece of her ship's bridge to float around the battlefield on. Why would you want the captain of your ship floating around an active warzone instead of, oh I don't know, commanding the ship from the safety of said ship? They should have painted her as hologram - that would have made more sense at least.

Go ahead and tell that to captain Kirk/Picard/Sisco/Janeway

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Sorry, but that pirate captain lady is just pants-on-head stupid. In case you didn't realize she's a ship captain, they gave her what looks like an actual piece of her ship's bridge to float around the battlefield on. Why would you want the captain of your ship floating around an active warzone instead of, oh I don't know, commanding the ship from the safety of said ship? They should have painted her as hologram - that would have made more sense at least.

Did you happen to watch the reveal stream? They narrated the piece being like that because that "ship bridge" is actually some sort of mini-command station she uses to hack into enemy ships from the inside, as well as working as a strategic HUD display set during battles, via which she issues commands to her fleet.. or something along those lines. So, its not actually a piece of a Ship's bridge.

 tauist wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Sorry, but that pirate captain lady is just pants-on-head stupid. In case you didn't realize she's a ship captain, they gave her what looks like an actual piece of her ship's bridge to float around the battlefield on. Why would you want the captain of your ship floating around an active warzone instead of, oh I don't know, commanding the ship from the safety of said ship? They should have painted her as hologram - that would have made more sense at least.

Did you happen to watch the reveal stream? They narrated the piece being like that because that "ship bridge" is actually some sort of mini-command station she uses to hack into enemy ships from the inside, as well as working as a strategic HUD display set during battles, via which she issues commands to her fleet.. or something along those lines. So, its not actually a piece of a Ship's bridge.

His point isn't that she's hovering around on a mechanical bridge-like platform; but why a ship captain would be conducting control from surface side instead of being on the actual bridge of the ship she's commanding.

I’m guessing she’s most useful in a Boarding Action. They mentioned her floaty platform thing allows her to interface with enemy ships.

While it might be a beautiful sculpt, your model of Roosevelt sitting at the Resolute Desk does not belong on the back of a jeep driving around Normandy.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
While it might be a beautiful sculpt, your model of Roosevelt sitting at the Resolute Desk does not belong on the back of a jeep driving around Normandy.

Not without at least 2 M2 brownings mounted to the desk, with silver bullets for the Nazi werewolves.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
While it might be a beautiful sculpt, your model of Roosevelt sitting at the Resolute Desk does not belong on the back of a jeep driving around Normandy.

Let's face it, that seems exactly like how 40K would handle it.


As for the whole squad, I hope that Huron's gang actually get some rules reflecting their competences instead of just being ablative wounds like Titus' assistants.

 Overread wrote:


His point isn't that she's hovering around on a mechanical bridge-like platform; but why a ship captain would be conducting control from surface side instead of being on the actual bridge of the ship she's commanding.

She's driving closer to hit them with her sword

If she wasn't floating around outside her ship/fleet, Huron's only female friend would be an alien dog man.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Tarrelian Dog Soldier, first shown in art in the 3rd Ed Rulebook.

Slicey-dicey
Onsey twicey
Fang and claw will
Kill Dredd nicely!

Sure looks close to a Klegg to me!

But, yes, def the old Terrelian Dog Solider.

Valete,

JohnS