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Amazing Adepticon releases/reveals, It really displays the massive raw volume of output GW is doing these days. How many models and sets have they revealed? It's a level of speed/quality unmatched and seems to be increasing by the year!

I cant keep up with it for sure and must confess, of all the new stuff, the new edition box and models seems to be what Im less interested in. Do we really need updated intercessors? The current kit is perfectly fine.

I generaly prefer infantry over vehicles but the new small vehicles are really nice
Everyone is loving the red terror, mind its what you would expect of a model update but I cant shrug off the same design between a Ravener and a Trygon... its cool and all but nothing that gets me overly exited since we've seen these similar designs over and over again and Trygon still does its job just fine.

Probably boring for most but what really floats my boat and will make me open my wallet is the Zoat. I missed it first time around and since then I have been eyeballing it on eBay but scalping prices were simply absurd there. I absolutely love the idea of finally getting one of my few unicorn models. I want that one so bad.

So quite a good 40k Update with some nice surprises and sets. Positive vibes all around.

The Saladin armoured car is nice. Will they be doing a tie in with the tank museum?

ccs wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
That they suddenly caved to internet bitching?

Wouldn't be the first time. See: Adepta Sororitas.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Personally I'm frankly astounded anyone cares about Catachans

Because they're a blatant nod to the Vietnam war and Deathworlds have been a popular setting since the beginning with Rogue Trader itself. The conflict left a huge mark on pop culture during the 1980s ranging from The A-Team to ALIENS and Predator. Good Morning Vietnam, Apocalpse Now, Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, First Blood, Full Metal Jacket...there was no getting away from it.

That said, they need a name change! I can't help but read it as "Cat-Chans". Oh dear.

I'd definitely would rather have new Catachans than new Steel Legion. SL have very similar look and themes than the Krieg, whilst the Catachans are drastically different. But of course the current Catachan models are atrocious. I'd really love to see them in modern detail and proportions.

Other guard regiment I'd love to see is the Vostroyans. They again have very distinct look and are peak 40k.

SamusDrake wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Personally I'm frankly astounded anyone cares about Catachans

Because they're a blatant nod to the Vietnam war and Deathworlds have been a popular setting since the beginning with Rogue Trader itself. The conflict left a huge mark on pop culture during the 1980s ranging from The A-Team to ALIENS and Predator. Good Morning Vietnam, Apocalpse Now, Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, First Blood, Full Metal Jacket...there was no getting away from it.

That said, they need a name change! I can't help but read it as "Cat-Chans". Oh dear.

Apparently the official way to pronounce it is Kat-a-kan, which I think must be something unique to the GW studio

SamusDrake wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Personally I'm frankly astounded anyone cares about Catachans

Because they're a blatant nod to the Vietnam war and Deathworlds have been a popular setting since the beginning with Rogue Trader itself. The conflict left a huge mark on pop culture during the 1980s ranging from The A-Team to ALIENS and Predator. Good Morning Vietnam, Apocalpse Now, Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, First Blood, Full Metal Jacket...there was no getting away from it.

That said, they need a name change! I can't help but read it as "Cat-Chans". Oh dear.

Anime felinid cat girl army confirmed!

 BorderCountess wrote:

ccs wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
That they suddenly caved to internet bitching?

Wouldn't be the first time. See: Adepta Sororitas.

That was less 'internet bitching' and more 'they sent out a survey and got overwhleming feedback in favour'. The Adepta Sororitas won as a write-in candidate for 'what would you like to see in the future?'. A morte perpetua, Domine, libra nos.

Catgirls Are Canon!

I'm sure GW are now hard at work at those tail & ears upgrade sprues as we speak right now...

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

ccs wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
That they suddenly caved to internet bitching?

Wouldn't be the first time. See: Adepta Sororitas.

That was less 'internet bitching' and more 'they sent out a survey and got overwhleming feedback in favour'. The Adepta Sororitas won as a write-in candidate for 'what would you like to see in the future?'. A morte perpetua, Domine, libra nos.

Most recent internet bitching prior was deathwatch really

Dudeface wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

ccs wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
That they suddenly caved to internet bitching?

Wouldn't be the first time. See: Adepta Sororitas.

That was less 'internet bitching' and more 'they sent out a survey and got overwhleming feedback in favour'. The Adepta Sororitas won as a write-in candidate for 'what would you like to see in the future?'. A morte perpetua, Domine, libra nos.

Most recent internet bitching prior was deathwatch really

Let's be real, all of the following were 100% internet bitching based:

Indexes post 7th edition.
The platonic idea of caring about army balance in ANY way.
Points in Age of Sigmar.
Having any kind of media presence, social or otherwise.
Warhammer The Old World.
Any fix to any on release rules oversight (Stormraven, Ironhands, Harlequins, Index Eldar)
Acknowledging that tournaments exist and that people play in them
Any army release that isn't Space Marines

Don't forget pre-empting the bitching about Daemons getting squatted.

Does YouTube Rage count as Internet Bitching?

Because if that worked, then I'm just hallucinating these female Custodes.


James Workshop is Tzeentch after all. No matter what you belive... all is going according to plan.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Does YouTube Rage count as Internet Bitching?

Because if that worked, then I'm just hallucinating these female Custodes.


James Workshop is Tzeentch after all. No matter what you belive... all is going according to plan.

The cookies taste good, eh?

Games Workshop's decision to announce new models at Adepticon is seen by some as supportive of third-party or "independent" gaming events. However in many ways it served to take attention from other third-party or "independent" gaming companies at the same event.

There are many pros and cons to consider.

ERJAK wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

ccs wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
That they suddenly caved to internet bitching?

Wouldn't be the first time. See: Adepta Sororitas.

That was less 'internet bitching' and more 'they sent out a survey and got overwhleming feedback in favour'. The Adepta Sororitas won as a write-in candidate for 'what would you like to see in the future?'. A morte perpetua, Domine, libra nos.

Most recent internet bitching prior was deathwatch really

Let's be real, all of the following were 100% internet bitching based:

Indexes post 7th edition.
The platonic idea of caring about army balance in ANY way.
Points in Age of Sigmar.
Having any kind of media presence, social or otherwise.
Warhammer The Old World.
Any fix to any on release rules oversight (Stormraven, Ironhands, Harlequins, Index Eldar)
Acknowledging that tournaments exist and that people play in them
Any army release that isn't Space Marines

are you saying those are bad things?

 UR-025 wrote:
Games Workshop's decision to announce new models at Adepticon is seen by some as supportive of third-party or "independent" gaming events. However in many ways it served to take attention from other third-party or "independent" gaming companies at the same event.

There are many pros and cons to consider.

The independents will get to show their products to a wider audience. If of the thousands that went there for GW alone a small percentage gets independent products it's a win.

Salute is a good example, the independent market share is not as rosy as many seem to think it is.

 Tastyfish wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Personally I'm frankly astounded anyone cares about Catachans

Because they're a blatant nod to the Vietnam war and Deathworlds have been a popular setting since the beginning with Rogue Trader itself. The conflict left a huge mark on pop culture during the 1980s ranging from The A-Team to ALIENS and Predator. Good Morning Vietnam, Apocalpse Now, Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, First Blood, Full Metal Jacket...there was no getting away from it.

That said, they need a name change! I can't help but read it as "Cat-Chans". Oh dear.

Apparently the official way to pronounce it is Kat-a-kan, which I think must be something unique to the GW studio

That's the way that I've always pronounced it, so I'm pleased to hear that. I had been pronouncing "Arbites" wrong for a very, very long time though, you win some, you lose some

I'd also much rather see new Catachans rather than Steel Legion. Wargames Atlantic's Space Nam dudes look so good, there's no reason why modern GW couldn't make them even better if they put their minds to it.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

ccs wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
That they suddenly caved to internet bitching?

Wouldn't be the first time. See: Adepta Sororitas.

That was less 'internet bitching' and more 'they sent out a survey and got overwhleming feedback in favour'. The Adepta Sororitas won as a write-in candidate for 'what would you like to see in the future?'. A morte perpetua, Domine, libra nos.

And even in that case, it was an obvious lie from GW.

Given the dates on the first concept art that they revealed, they'd have to have dumped whatever they were working on, and started on Sisters of Battle effectively immediately after the survey.

Since it was clear that GW were mining nostalgia, and wanted to increase female representation amongst their ranges, it was blatantly obvious that they were going to do Sisters of Battle sooner rather than later.

(And bear in mind that 'people want Sisters of Battle hurdur' was literally the only result of GW's survey(s) which they ever shared (despite their claims beforehand) - very convenient!)

Cat-a-chan surely?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Does YouTube Rage count as Internet Bitching?

Because if that worked, then I'm just hallucinating these female Custodes.

Yes.

Hippogriff spare parts are going to do wonders for improving older kits. Spare melta cannons for magnetising Chimeras into Devil Dogs and battle cannons that don't look like novelty t-shirt cannons.

Oh right, they called it a battle cannon. That sort of flew over my head since, while it's absolutely oversized for its hull, it's dwarfed by the LR gun.

I had a full mechanized steel legion army back starting in 3rd (4th?) all the way until 6th when I sold it as I was scraping for money to get a condo. Only one of two war-hammer things I ever sold that I thoroughly regret, and I have sold a lot of 40k, fantasy, necromunda etc.over the years (I also regret selling my custom made Iron warrior DP, but this is about guard). Steel legion models would definitely get me back into guard. I mean the guard regiments is such an easy thing for GW to do. What one command squad and/or solo officer, one infantry squad kit, and one heavy weapon team kit, and BAM! you have a regiment,since they all use essentially the same vehicles etc. I bet we will see Catachans, Tallaran (however spelled), and all the other old ones at some point in the next decade, as it is such an easy thing to do and is just $$$ as you will probably get people buying mutliple infantry kits to build their favorite regiment, then another one and so on.

Also the new kill team looks really cool, but why Cadians? The same models only slightly modified could have been Catachans or Tallaran. oh well though.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Given the dates on the first concept art that they revealed, they'd have to have dumped whatever they were working on, and started on Sisters of Battle effectively immediately after the survey.

Could be they had them in the making, but the survey made them either decide to fast-track it (we know stuff can languish in the development backrooms for a long time sometimes, like how a complete lady Malys was leaked ages before she actually released) or made them double down and invest extra in a faction they were going to do anyway.

I don't know. Lots of nuance in stuff like this.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 UR-025 wrote:
Games Workshop's decision to announce new models at Adepticon is seen by some as supportive of third-party or "independent" gaming events. However in many ways it served to take attention from other third-party or "independent" gaming companies at the same event.

There are many pros and cons to consider.

The independents will get to show their products to a wider audience. If of the thousands that went there for GW alone a small percentage gets independent products it's a win.

Salute is a good example, the independent market share is not as rosy as many seem to think it is.

Please don't interact with the AI chat-bot. We shouldn't be encouraging it.

Yarrick is a parody, I'm totally indifferent to him and his return. If he makes people happy I'm fine with it, but the ASL is probably for multiple reasons pointed out. Though just thinking if their badge has a simliar appearance to any real life groups.

 Snrub wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

 UR-025 wrote:
Games Workshop's decision to announce new models at Adepticon is seen by some as supportive of third-party or "independent" gaming events. However in many ways it served to take attention from other third-party or "independent" gaming companies at the same event.

There are many pros and cons to consider.

The independents will get to show their products to a wider audience. If of the thousands that went there for GW alone a small percentage gets independent products it's a win.

Salute is a good example, the independent market share is not as rosy as many seem to think it is.

Please don't interact with the AI chat-bot. We shouldn't be encouraging it.

Frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't been shut down by the mods.

Wait its an AI chatbot?

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Shame they don't re-do the whole Guard range to remove bolt weapons, leave them for astartes. Lasers and stubbers would be a great aesthetic.

And chain swords and power fists. Those should only be weapons of Astartes.