Warhammer 40k news and rumours - Adepticon reveals page 312

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**lord_blackfang**

Iron Warriors up https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/avczirqt/sunday-preview-into-the-eye-of-terror/

**JNAProductions**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Iron Warriors up https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/avczirqt/sunday-preview-into-the-eye-of-terror/

That's just giving me an error message.

**Dudeface**

JNAProductions wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Iron Warriors up https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/avczirqt/sunday-preview-into-the-eye-of-terror/
That's just giving me an error message.

The page shouldn't be live for another 33m

**BorderCountess**

JNAProductions wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Iron Warriors up https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/avczirqt/sunday-preview-into-the-eye-of-terror/
That's just giving me an error message.

Hasn't gone live for the US yet.

**Abadabadoobaddon**

Shakalooloo wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The status that the Red Terror is smashing?

Is that Kryptman??

Nah, he wears spectacles rather than a bionic monocle.

I was today years old when I learned that the Joe Pesci Moonwalker inquisitor is Kryptman.

**The Phazer**

Valrak said on his live stream tonight that the same source that told him that there was a new Wazdakka coming said that there was also a new Nazdreg coming. Presumably with the 11th Ork release.

https://www.youtube.com/live/e3pjNoJ4_bY?si=LEEVyGo1WHNwa_ME

**SamusDrake**

A Destrier and a copy of White Dwarf it is!

I assume it's just a reprinting of Imperial Knights: Renegade?

**MajorWesJanson**

Nothing is box locked for this release. Bit surprised, but 1 of each new admech thing it is.

Didn't notice before, but the Iron Warriors upgrades don't include terminator pads.

**warl0rdb0b**

If they do a new Nazdrek, that'll be enough to bring me back to Orks, he was the first metal Ork model I picked up way back when!

**Mr_Rose**

If they remembered Weirdboys and Wazdakka and maybe Nazdreg, hopefully that means they remembered the other Clans exist too.

**DaveC**

Euro Price List from TGA

€115 = £88, $145

**Undead_Love-Machine**

Oof, that's an expensive Defiler

**Charax**

Ooof that thing's gonna Profanador my bank account

**Da Boss**

Pretty ludicrous price really. Nice model, but I'll pass.

**Undead_Love-Machine**

What was the GW direct price of the old Defiler? £45-£50?

I bet the new one comes on less sprues too!

**Shakalooloo**

Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
What was the GW direct price of the old Defiler? £45-£50?

I bet the new one comes on less sprues too!

Much fuller sprues mind, with less wasted space.

**Dudeface**

I find the defiler price point in a weird spot, it's not so insulting I'd never get one, but it's too much to want more than one as well.

It needs to be a 300+pt model to justify it really imo. The game shrinkflation needs to stop.

**RustyNumber**

Dudeface wrote:
Instead when you consider they can't make everything for everyone all the time, it might appear that guard having "minorly distinct infantry unit 11 or whatever" vs getting grotesque back or GK being the right size is a bit off.

I agree completely, and as I said earlier it's very strange it seems they're planning on "slightly different great coat and gas mask troops" as a kit. You have to assume the kreig launch went bananas and now guard IS more valuable than DE or something.

**Ashiraya**

The Destrier is the bigger surprise. At 140 instead of 150 it's only slightly cheaper than a full Questoris, and the Questoris comes with way more alt builds.

The Defiler is about where I expected.

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xttz wrote:
I'm pretty confident that's just someone doing some old-fashioned trolling.

Possibly, but trolling is also reportable.

(Also, come on...)

Spoiler:

**Shakalooloo**

Dudeface wrote:
I find the defiler price point in a weird spot, it's not so insulting I'd never get one, but it's too much to want more than one as well.

It needs to be a 300+pt model to justify it really imo. The game shrinkflation needs to stop.

Its points to price ratio will surely be better than most squad boxes still.

**BrookM**

feth me, that's way too much for a single, somewhat smaller Knight.

**SamusDrake**

Very upset about the Destrier price but I'll only say that It's now time for GW to fold the Imperial Knights and Ad-Mech into a single codex, and be done with it.

**PenitentJake**

SamusDrake wrote:
Very upset about the Destrier price but I'll only say that It's now time for GW to fold the Imperial Knights and Ad-Mech into a single codex, and be done with it.

On the verge of an edition with combined detachments, this is crushingly unlikely. The way to combine Knights and Mechinucs in 11th will be to to take a small detachment of each from the Codexes which will already exist when the edition launches.

As they update the Codices, I suppose it's still possible, but I think the combined detachment solution will ultimately be more elegant and provide a greater number of options.

**Olthannon**

100 quid for that Knight battalion feels like decent deal. But is the Castellan good?

**ScarletRose**

Olthannon wrote:
100 quid for that Knight battalion feels like decent deal. But is the Castellan good?

Codexes are a flat circle - if it's not good now it will be later. May as well have one if you don't already.

**Dudeface**

Shakalooloo wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
I find the defiler price point in a weird spot, it's not so insulting I'd never get one, but it's too much to want more than one as well.

It needs to be a 300+pt model to justify it really imo. The game shrinkflation needs to stop.

Its points to price ratio will surely be better than most squad boxes still.

As I say shrinkflation needs to stop.

**Marshal Loss**

I'll grab 2 Defilers, stunning kit

**SamusDrake**

PenitentJake wrote:

On the verge of an edition with combined detachments, this is crushingly unlikely. The way to combine Knights and Mechinucs in 11th will be to to take a small detachment of each from the Codexes which will already exist when the edition launches.

As they update the Codices, I suppose it's still possible, but I think the combined detachment solution will ultimately be more elegant and provide a greater number of options.

Not biting the messenger - you're just looking at it logically and I shake your hand - so the following isn't aimed at you, but just expressing how I feel about what comes next...

They can shove 11th edition, where Imperial Knights are concerned. I'd much rather buy another pack of Armigers and carry on using the 10th edition codex, because by the time we get the 11th edition codex Valrak will be banging on about 12th edition when 40K gets a complete re-write anyway.

Glass-half-full, I can only hope that GW might introduce a Combat Patrol box with a Destrier and a pair of Armigers. Considering that they're willing to do a £130 limited run boxset for a Dominus and 2 Armigers, that's not asking for too much for a set that lasts for a 3 year run. Strip them down to a Helverin, Warglaive and Destrier with the chaingun & lance-spear thingy, and they leave some reason to purchase the individual kits for additional options.

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And in other news...yup, Imperial Knights: Renegade returns in White Dwarf with other Superheavies to follow in later issues...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tuuxdman/inside-white-dwarf-523-imperial-knights-defilers-and-more/

A new mini-game – based on a classic boxed set of yore called Imperial Knights: Renegade* – pits two Knights against each other in a one-on-one duel.

Rather than using rules from Warhammer 40,000, these Titanic Duels have a custom action system that gives you fine control over your Knight’s every move, including a hit location chart that models individual parts with their own damage effects. It’s incredibly cinematic and a fun game to play when you don’t have time for a full-size clash – there are rules for Knights Questoris and Knights Abhorrent, but if you’re wondering how other super-heavies would go up against the Knights in a Titanic Duel, future issues may just have you covered.

**AskRatGPT**

Hi!
I just joined 40k and was expecting an Spearhead level Combat Patrol anouncement for the Adepticon 40K show...

Has there been any rumours after the show regarding CP??

**NAVARRO**

Oh. my thats quite nice Ork

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/m9ustghh/new40k-boss-nob-revealed/