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A full 3 weeks into "UK shipping has started" we're at "UK orders will be sent out next week" (around 9:20)

Full rulebook for Quar is imminent

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/quar-clash-of-rhyfles-hardback-rulebook-1

This will be my next hyperfixation

I have a quick kitbashing question: I'm thinking of picking up WGA werewolves to kitbash with the new Damned beastmen, and would like to know if the werewolf arms and heads scale well with Damned beastmen bodies. If anyone has both kits, I'd appreciate a tip or a photo.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Full rulebook for Quar is imminent

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/quar-clash-of-rhyfles-hardback-rulebook-1

This will be my next hyperfixation

Is this just something you're into, or do you actually have a Quar scene around you?

Not him, but I'm actively building a Quar scene around me.

 Prometheum5 wrote:

Is this just something you're into, or do you actually have a Quar scene around you?

How dare you.

There are two of us.

I'm less interested in rulebooks, but am increasingly tempted to pick up some Quar and write a 2nd ed 40K codex for them...

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:

Is this just something you're into, or do you actually have a Quar scene around you?

How dare you.

There are two of us.

And that's really all you need.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:

Is this just something you're into, or do you actually have a Quar scene around you?

How dare you.

There are two of us.

And that's really all you need.

I didn't even mean it as a dig! I bought the boxed set as well and got halfway thru building mine before sidelining them for other projects and realizing I'll probably never get to play it.

I might not either, finally reading the rulebook today has slashed my enthusiasm. I suppose I should have expected a game that's been around for 20 odd years to be... archaic... but it seems the editing and layout have also not progressed beyond the level of a first draft in all that time, and that's a big barrier to entry when the rules are about as clunky and dense as 40k 2nd edition.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I might not either, finally reading the rulebook today has slashed my enthusiasm. I suppose I should have expected a game that's been around for 20 odd years to be... archaic... but it seems the editing and layout have also not progressed beyond the level of a first draft in all that time, and that's a big barrier to entry when the rules are about as clunky and dense as 40k 2nd edition.

are you talking Quar?

Are you sure it's that old Lord_Blackfang? I was chatting to (one of?) the game creators at Salute last year and it sounded like it had been designed fairly recently.
He was saying that basically they wanted to create a WW1-themed game, but games made in that setting don't tend to sell, so the Quar background and design was added to it.

You do get modern crunchy or badly-written (poorly edited?) rulesets still unfortunately. The new Heresy rules for example!

Ha ha true. Yea Quar is old, used to be a one man metal range, before being picked up by Atlantic. They did a new rulebook but I don't know how much was changed from before. It's one of those games with a lot of books - there was a fluff book, a 28mm skirmish book with rules based on A Song of Blades and Heroes under license, a 28mm platoon scale book, and a 15mm company scale book. There were some 6mm models too.

Heck the Quar computer game is 10 years old by now.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Heck the Quar computer game is 10 years old by now.

I looked it up and almost went "There's TWO of them?" but it appears the game has different names for the PC and PS versions for no real discernible reason.

First two UK Damned backers report getting shipping notifications.

I report ordering one box of each Quar Coftyr infantry.

Josh Qualtieri and various other people have been making Quar minis in multiple scales, writing rules, writing fluff, and doing art for quite a long time now. More recently it became one of those partnerships with WA - I'm not in the business so I have no idea whether it's licenses or contracting or something else, but Josh continues to do 3D sculpting that's released as stls. Generally the STLs are different factions or oddball fun civilian models or conversion bits that aren't too likely to see plastic.

As to the rules, it's all a bit confusing because of some name, scale, and scope confusion.

The tl;dr is that the current quite small scope
skirmish game that's getting the rulebook treatment is Clash of Rhyfles - it got a small quickstart book last year (or two, what is time even) when the first regular infantry sprue for two factions were released. CoR is reasonably small - a dozen or less dudes a side is a reasonable game (though you can of course go up) and as is always the case with tabletop gamers most people build bigger collections and get bigger models so rules creep up in scope. The hardback thus includes rules for tractors (their tanks), cavalry, autopeds (their motorcycles), and light weapon teams. That being said, it still mostly zooms in on a couple handfuls of models per side.

All previous rulebooks, bar the one that was in partnership with Ganesha Games, are free to download in their entirety - fluff, art, rules, etc.

They are ALSO working on a bigger battles game - they have an older one that was for bigger-er battles in 15mm. For my tastes CoR is lovely as a game where an NCO leads their small team. I felt in playing it that the resolution mechanic (while a bit clunky at first) really felt like every action had the possibility to tell a story. Result for combat actions in particular aren't binary, so you might dive for cover, fire back, backpedal, knock someone out, or have the firer flub hard. The bell curve on the dice means weird stuff isn't constantly happening either, but I did find in the games we played that it was easy to narrate moments emerging from gameplay.

I'm ALSO excited for the upcoming bigger battles game because I did wind up expanding my initial squad into a company (they don't really have a platoon equivalent in their world; companies are ~55 minis) as they released command and specialist sprues for each of the two initial factions. Another friend picked up the third plastic faction, and two more are coming with a new box set that includes the hardback rules, as well as plastic additions to the ones already available - cavalry (they've released a couple of tractors in plastic too).

While I understand that people find the layout offputting, I'll note the rules are nowhere as complex as 2E 40k, but I also haven't bothered with tractors yet and I'll assimilate the cavalry and support weapons once we get plastics out for those. But the infantry firefight rules are 30ish A5 pages with lots of white space and relatively big text, and the profiles for each faction are a couple pages on top.

The narrative potential is great. But I do regret a little that they didn't go for 15mm plastics.

The biggest crime so far in the rules is they mixed up rounds and turns and it sounds deranged. Players alternate taking rounds and 10 rounds is a turn. Once I spotted this, at least my worries about tracking information over time ("until the end of the round" stuff) were alleviated.

I ordered Rennaisance Heavy Cav via my FLGS.
So far i am quite happy.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
First two UK Damned backers report getting shipping notifications.

I've got my notification. Will let you know when it actually shows up.

Has anyone outside the USA and UK received their Pledge or even a Notification?

Longstrider wrote:


As to the rules, it's all a bit confusing because of some name, scale, and scope confusion.

.

I bought a couple of the rulesets over the years just to read about Quar without ever purchasing the minis. Nine of them really grabbed me. Now I've got a box full of metal Quar and if I ever get around to painting them, I'll probably just use Grimdark Future and Grimdark Future Firefight.

There's also the potential to adapt Quar in other ways. A member of our club did them up in his own scheme with a VOTOMS suit and MaK-style homemade hover tank as a sort of Imperial Guard proxy. It appeared in this battle report.
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2024/05/aar-12000-point-grimdark-future-battle/

My pledge arrived, and boy was it a lot of plastic!

 Eilif wrote:

I bought a couple of the rulesets over the years just to read about Quar without ever purchasing the minis. Nine of them really grabbed me. Now I've got a box full of metal Quar and if I ever get around to painting them, I'll probably just use Grimdark Future and Grimdark Future Firefight.

There's also the potential to adapt Quar in other ways. A member of our club did them up in his own scheme with a VOTOMS suit and MaK-style homemade hover tank as a sort of Imperial Guard proxy. It appeared in this battle report.
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2024/05/aar-12000-point-grimdark-future-battle/

Those are very cool! Quar do make sense to use in other contexts, and OPR stuff makes sense to stat models into of course.

I'm a UK backer and received my pledge in a single box from Sarissa Precision today.

I had opted for 'one box of everything' barring the Terrae Motus, which became the Mauler. I have the following kits in hand:
Command
Ogryns
Infantry
Female Infantry
Heavy Infantry (including the backpack sprues)
Abhuman Infantry
Hounds and Handlers
Cavalry
Weapons Teams
Artillery Teams

I have to say they look pretty great, clean moulds with very little flash and good detail. There are no bases, instructions or boxes at all, just a great big pile of sprues but they look fairly foolproof.

Saying all that, Its been over 2.5 years, a long time, in which my wife and I have slightly unexpectedly had another baby when we had thought we were past that life stage, so I will slightly regretfully be selling them; a militia army is no longer in my future.

If you want the models, please do DM.

If you have questions about the sprues for the thread, post them here.

an unboxing to help those of us still waiting

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
First two UK Damned backers report getting shipping notifications.

I've got my notification. Will let you know when it actually shows up.

It showed up. I'd post pics, but I just did a 13 hour shift and I really can't be bothered to unpack it right now.

Woo!

Meanwhile, I got my Quar, lovely stuff

feugan wrote:
I'm a UK backer and received my pledge in a single box from Sarissa Precision today.

Saying all that, Its been over 2.5 years, a long time, in which my wife and I have slightly unexpectedly had another baby when we had thought we were past that life stage, so I will slightly regretfully be selling them; a militia army is no longer in my future.

Congratulations on the little one, I'm in a similar boat but mine is 2.5 yo so I'm holding out hope I can wait a few more months and get back to more regular hobbying.

Just had my Damned stash delivered to me in the UK, a massive pile of 64 sprues of minis (+ 8 of the replacement heavy infantry packs), and another 8 sprues of bases

enough to keep me going for a decade at the speed i'm painting at the moment

but it will keep me entertained building and converting them

I'm impressed with how sharp they look on the sprues, it may have taken longer than planed but WGA did a good job on them

So how do I go about getting the improved heavy infantry sprues? My order had 4 of the original ones.